Info Wars Banned
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Private corporations decided to sever business ties with people whose content violated their terms? Good. This is how a free market works.
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No, I don't think he should have been banned.
But guess what? That's capitalism and I recall that's what Alex Jones has been preaching for a long time. If silencing the right is profitable for private business, well guess what? That's still not a free speech issue. Tough titty. Alex Jones doesn't believe in free speech and now he's reaped what he has sown.
But guess what? That's capitalism and I recall that's what Alex Jones has been preaching for a long time. If silencing the right is profitable for private business, well guess what? That's still not a free speech issue. Tough titty. Alex Jones doesn't believe in free speech and now he's reaped what he has sown.
Hate speech and inciting violence. I mean there have been multiple cases already where his listeners attacked or harassed people because of his propaganda. The Pizzagate shooting and the Sandy Hook families receiving death threats from his fans are examples of that.
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Yup. In addition to this, if the views you're presenting conflicts with the company that has the choice of giving you a platform, they're allowed to take that platform away. That's how a partnership in a free market works. This is what I meant by "terms."
It's not as if anyone that listens to TYT, BBC, CNN, NYT and so on and so on has ever gone out of their way to shoot up people and shit thanks to the garbage they get shoved down their throats, right? But let's blame Alex Jones for what some jackass decided to do. If you're going to apply this ridiculous logic, you might as well apply it to everyone. Cause the double standards are blatant.
And i also find it interesting how you dare claim Alex Jones doesn't belive in free speech but cite "Hate speech" as a reason for him to be banned.
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These guys... They're not wrong ya know.
Are you just shit posting at this point? Did you try to compare infowars to all of those above outlets? TYT is the closest and they're still not even close.
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I followed Alex Jones since 2004. He was always entertaining. But he should have stayed low profile and not try to become mainstream. I liked him better when the government was evil with their camps that were being built.
Don’t feel sorry for him. He can always go back to public access.
Don’t feel sorry for him. He can always go back to public access.
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Did you really refer to the republican party as righteous? The only righteous republican I can think off was Ron Paul and Rand Paul to some degree.
Anyway no they shouldn't have banned him even of he does spout as much manure as the Democrats. If they were going to ban him for breaking yhe rules then they shouldn't have co-ordinated the ban which makes the motivating factors look suspsicious and or at least clearly outlined his breaches. The disgraceful thing is twitter even banned Ron Paul a true libertarian so I'm seeing some political motivation.
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Wait, that abomination finally received some punishment? Faith in humanity went up by +1! It's still in the negatives though, but whatever, take what you can.
Never understood how it was possible he was allowed to do and say what he did for so long.
And "righteous" republican party, lol?
Never understood how it was possible he was allowed to do and say what he did for so long.
And "righteous" republican party, lol?
In principle, no. I don't support deplatforming. I could also make a pragmatic argument where in which the consequences of Alex Jones' ban causes more harm than good for those who are inconsistent relativist.
For one, the biggest byproduct to come out of A.J.s mass ban was his spike in followers and viewership, granting him presence and notoriety to people who've never heard of him. The coordinated and simultaneous multi-platform ban also grants credence to his conspiracy theories, one of which is that the ones who he claims are "at the top" are "deliberately trying to silence the truth". If not his conspiracy theories, conservatives who politically align with him will make him out as a Martyr.
IMO, the biggest negative to come out of this is Alex Jones going underground. At least when he was a public figure, everyone was able to keep an eye on him; the media would report on his absurd conspiracies, and those from the opposing political would criticize him, keeping him in check. Once he fades out of the public spotlight, him, his supporters, and his ideas can and will go unchecked -- allowing his conspiracies to spread like a dormant disease, writhing and fortifying throughout
the body until he resurfaces.
I personally don't think the grounds on which he was banned were justified, but that's irrelevant in the grander scheme of things.
For one, the biggest byproduct to come out of A.J.s mass ban was his spike in followers and viewership, granting him presence and notoriety to people who've never heard of him. The coordinated and simultaneous multi-platform ban also grants credence to his conspiracy theories, one of which is that the ones who he claims are "at the top" are "deliberately trying to silence the truth". If not his conspiracy theories, conservatives who politically align with him will make him out as a Martyr.
IMO, the biggest negative to come out of this is Alex Jones going underground. At least when he was a public figure, everyone was able to keep an eye on him; the media would report on his absurd conspiracies, and those from the opposing political would criticize him, keeping him in check. Once he fades out of the public spotlight, him, his supporters, and his ideas can and will go unchecked -- allowing his conspiracies to spread like a dormant disease, writhing and fortifying throughout
the body until he resurfaces.
I personally don't think the grounds on which he was banned were justified, but that's irrelevant in the grander scheme of things.
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Alex jones hasn't went underground or has been silenced, his app has sky rocketed in the top 5 charts since the ban and has remained there since then. You cannot silence the silent majority, were the true patriots who'll fight for freedom while you lefties drink your coffee from starbucks in the morning and complain why you don't have enough creamer and blame it on white supremacy. His ban wasn't justified at all, it was a clear attack on the political views before the election, silencing the massive red wave that has grew in displayable value so the small blue sparks can show at least for a little bit. Hate speech? This is america, youtube, google, and apple are american companies, although apple now works for china. This isn't england where they'll kill you in the streets if you approach too close to a military guard, this is the home of the free with a constitution that clearly states upon the first amendment of free speech that anyone is allowed to express political view points or the other as much as possible. Its a clear attack on the american values, its been said before, the liberalism is coming already in the form of socialism and here we are, banning people because of their beliefs. Whats next? Someone says something bad about radical Islam and they get hung in the streets?
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I dont know much about them. But I think to some extent you have a right to ban things from your platform. To some extent you should still allow free speech, like you shouldn't hide it away just cus you think they are dumb or you disagree.
Never said anything about him going underground and whatnot. I still don't even know what kind of punishment he received. I merely expressed my delight in that he finally seems to receive some form of punishment considering he has been making a living for years by being a chronic liar without any repercussions. Freedom of speech doesn't mean and never meant you automatically can say whatever you want indefinitely and without repercussions.
And you do realize the value of your entire monologue here about America is absolute zero? It has no meaning, it's completely hollow, it's void of any substance. Like a wannabe magic spell you just cast some words and terms and concepts you know will have an effect on people and then you just repeat them till they buy it. "lefties", "radical islam", "home of the free", "silent majority", "true patriots", "white supremacy", "first amendment", "free speech", "American values" etc. There's no cohesion whatsoever.
The only ones who buy this nonsense rhetoric are people who are incredibly naive, susceptible and thus very prone to being brainwashed. Almost like they are trained to react on reflex if they hear a specific word. It's a vicious cycle: people like Alex Jones make up the most ridiculous stuff, present them as facts and then people who already lean towards those same ideas use that as confirmation of what they already thought and start to support Jones. Jones then sees that support as confirmation for the stuff he made up and then the cycle repeats itself. That's cancerous for a society as you then have a bunch of people with controversial and even dangerous beliefs that are based on nothing. That's a recipe for disaster. That suddenly his app is downloaded massively was a predictable outcome, but doesn't really mean anything as most of those people were probably already stuck in that cycle.
Do you know what the biggest irony of this all is? If anything he said was actually true, he would have never been able to say it in the first place. You should have tried living in East-Germany during the Cold War. Now they were brutally efficient in putting people with big mouths down.
Also first "righteous republican party" and now "silencing the silent majority? Seriously?
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Thats what the typical left usually believe, they can just do whatever fits their agenda even when its against the law but god forbid some normal human being comes along and slaps some reality into their head.
You don't say. Come on man, he was talking to you, Aristotelian, and the other clown. It was Aristotelian who said the thing about him going underground.
Then the rules should apply the same way to everyone else.
Like when you throw out words like "hate speech", "islamophobia", "racist", "Nazi", "fascist", "alt-right", "white supremacy" left and right as if their magical spells. To silence and attack other people you disagree with. Ammirite?
like you, right? -_- Is it hard to accept that not everybody has to think the same way as you?
Therefore everything is bullshit then? Because everyone says whatever the hell they want? We're not living east-Germany during the cold war. That's the thing.
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