Sasuke most advanced CT: Epicenter by eye contact

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That's not how eyes work in the NV. Borrowed users of eyes don't get their own powers with the eyes.

Kakashi had Obito's eye for a long time, and what MS jutsu did he get? Long range kamui. When Obito got that eye back, Obito gained access to the long ranged kamui.

Danzou had Shisui's eye, and what did he get? He got kotoamatsukami. He didn't get his own unique jutsu. He got Shisui's jutsu because it was Shisui's eye.

Now you may say, "Well then why didn't Nagato get limbo?". Simple: Only the original owner can use the unique power of the eye.

Also, stop bringing up Momoshiki. His rinnegan comes from an entirely different source (different shinju, different planet, different rinnegan, etc...) However, you are saying that Madara can't use a technique with his own eyes that we clearly saw someone else use (with Madara's own eyes). There is a difference here.

By the way, there is evidence to suggest that there are common techniques amongst all rinnegan users, but I won't get into it now because I have a bus to catch.
Rikudou’s a dumbass, lmfao don’t even waste your time explaining yourself fam. I mean, just look at what he typed in my sig. If you click on the blue arrow beside his name, you’ll find where his retarded ass was being decimated but he continued to stick to his fanfic. And we all know that what was shown there probably wasn’t the first time and certainly wasn’t the last.
 
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You're a fool.

Name one ability a character is implied to possess but doesn't show it even in the sequel of series though he gained it prior in prequel series.

I'm not one to give fake feats to characters I wish. I could use your retard logic and pass off Sasuke's ameno feats to Itachi since its his "eye" through which former awakened said Rinnegan. If you aren't aware EMS is awakened through transplanting a closer relative's eye. Meaning he awakened all of that because of Itachi and Itachi's eyes alone. I really hate it when fools on this site ignore context and pass off every statement whenever it suits them as fact.

Take that gibberish elsewhere.
You're clearly the fool that doesn't understand just how different EMS (and Sasuke's subsequent rinnegan) is from Nagato's case.

From the get go, when an Uchiha awakens EMS, their sibling's eyes become their eyes (as indicated by how the MS design changes into a fusion of both sibling's designs). Furthermore, you cannot attribute amenotejikara to Itachi because Itachi never awakened the rinnegan. Sasuke is the one who received Hagoromo's chakara. Sasuke is the one who is a transmigrant.

In short, it may be Itachi's physical eyeball, but it is Sasuke's rinnegan.

Keep in mind that technically Sasuke could have awakened rinnegan without Itachi's eyes. If MS Sasuke had melded Indra's and Asura's chakara or received chakara from Hagoromo then he would have awakened rinnegan even without Itachi's eyes.

Heck, we can even apply this concept to Toneri with Hanabi's eyes. They may have been Hanabi's eyes, but Toneri is the one who awakened the tenseigan.

Nagato's case is distinctly different though. Unlike Sasuke or Toneri, Nagato didn't awaken crap. The rinnegan eyes had already been awakened by Madara. The rikudou chakara had already been mixed and preprepared by Madara.

Do you understand the distinction. You have to awaken the eyes to get your own power.

Now be civil.
 

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There is literally nothing superior about sauskes implementation of CT.Sasuke used CT to trap the tailed beast where as Madara was gaining mass to use them as blunt weapons to hurl at people.
 

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Can’t it be used several ways? Isn’t the meteor Madara dropped on the SA also Chibaku Tensei? He didn’t creat a core fir that one or The 2nd one or is that another Jutsu altogether? I honestly can’t remember.
It is. Madara made a core because he was using CT as an attack and this needed mass. Sasuke was using it as a prison.Sasuke wankers will make up the craziest stories
 

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I liked how he uses it on the fly and wouldn't it have been cool if he and Naruto finished Momo off with chidori planet splitter and rasengan.

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Says who? Kishi never said that in the manga so I don't know what you're talking about. Shinra tensei was created by Nagato almost similar to how Kakashi created Kamui lightning blade, Obito is not gonna start using kamui lightning blade now is he?




No, your conception is all wrong. Kamui is the power of Obito's eyes. Shinra tensei is a jutsu that was created by Nagato when he obtained the rinnegan because if you're gonna assume that every user automatically gets granted with other people's ocular feats then Nagato should be able to Limbo Hengoku just like Madara since Kakashi can use Obito's kamui.

You don't try to apply abc logic math with ocular powers, you need to know the difference between the ones that are created and the ones that come in automatically with the eyes.


That's interesting. So where was this stated in the manga? Better yet the databook? Simple, it doesn't exist because a bunch of members back in 2014-2015 made that up so Sasuke fans won't claim it as a feat. I was there during the beginning of it so you can't bullshit me. I used to be one of them.

A rinnegan is a rinnegan, there's no excuse you can make on how it was achieved because every rinnegan user acquired their rinnegan differently.


There is none.
Every piece of Naruto media heavily implies that the “Six Paths” jutsu come with the rinnegan, from Anime, to manga, to novels, to the games. Nothing ever implied that nagato created a single jutsu he used.

Unless you think Nagato created every Rinnegan summon, but for whatever reason Human and Outer paths already existed, and he just found out about CT. Clearly, those are the set six abilities of the Rinnegan.
 

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Tengai Shinsei is used by weaving hand signs, Madara used his Susano’o to assist with call them (the meteors) down. It requires 3 simultaneously hand-sign weaves. It isn’t explained how he managed to do that but we can’t conclude that it was CT. We also can’t conclude that CT was used to create those meteors.
I thought it would be closer to Bansho Tenin
Yeah, when Pain turn Naruto to epicenter of the rubble in the anime, I believe it was Basho Tenin. But when Madara called down the meteors with Tengai, he weaved hand signs.
Ah ok that’s what it was called. And yeah it makes more sense it is akin to Bansho Tenin
 

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Why are you bitching? Madara can't use shinra tensei, Tendo is Pain's power and Madara had limbo as his central power. Why you gonna tell me that Momoshiki used shinra tensei/bansho tenin too?

You're a fool.

Name one ability a character is implied to possess but doesn't show it even in the sequel of series though he gained it prior in prequel series.

I'm not one to give fake feats to characters I wish. I could use your retard logic and pass off Sasuke's ameno feats to Itachi since its his "eye" through which former awakened said Rinnegan. If you aren't aware EMS is awakened through transplanting a closer relative's eye. Meaning he awakened all of that because of Itachi and Itachi's eyes alone. I really hate it when fools on this site ignore context and pass off every statement whenever it suits them as fact.

Take that gibberish elsewhere.
I'll address you two clowns in one comment.

Shinra Tensei is not specific to nagato. Hell nothing that Nagato has done with the rinnegan is specific to him. Shinra Tensei is part of the deva path which is one of the six (really seven) paths that are given to ALL rinnegan users. Now if you think for whatever reason that Shinra Tensei, specifically, is only limited to Nagato, the Databook has outright stated that those who possess the rinnegan can use this ability.

The six paths abilities come with the rinnegan, this has been implied throughout the whole series and trying to dispute this only makes you look like a moron.

Regarding the stuff I have bolded, the whole argument is just bullshit. Plain and simple, no reason to beat around the bush.

The logic that you used to come to the conclusion that Sasuke's ameno can be attributed to Itachi is based solely off of your own stupidity. Manga has implied and databook his stated that the six paths are granted to all rinnegan users.


There is literally nothing superior about sauskes implementation of CT.Sasuke used CT to trap the tailed beast where as Madara was gaining mass to use them as blunt weapons to hurl at people.
Sasuke's CT is just objectively better then Madara's. By removing the drawback of needing a core, Sasuke gets rid of Chibaku Tensei's , of just destroying the core outright. Sasuke can also , so there is nothing stopping him from using his CT in the same manner that you suggested.
 

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I'll address you two clowns in one comment.
First of all you fucking moron, watch your fucking mouth. You want to reply, then start typing like a decent human being.
Shinra Tensei is not specific to nagato. Hell nothing that Nagato has done with the rinnegan is specific to him. Shinra Tensei is part of the deva path which is one of the six (really seven) paths that are given to ALL rinnegan users. Now if you think for whatever reason that Shinra Tensei, specifically, is only limited to Nagato, the Databook has outright stated that those who possess the rinnegan can use this ability.
Shinra tensei is specifically for nagato whether you like it or not. Everything else is just bullshit coming out of your ass.
You want to bring Databook into it, go look at the fourth Databook. It's states that shinra tensei is the power of Tendo Pain and it lists Nagato as the sole user of this jutsu. So go back and read properly before replying me with this stupid fuckery.
The six paths abilities come with the rinnegan, this has been implied throughout the whole series and trying to dispute this only makes you look like a moron.
Six path abilities is a term for any jutsu with six path chakra you fucking retard. Nagato's powers in the manga is called "pain's jutsu" or "six path of pain jutsu" stated by konan. Read up you dumbass
Regarding the stuff I have bolded, the whole argument is just bullshit. Plain and simple, no reason to beat around the bush.

The logic that you used to come to the conclusion that Sasuke's ameno can be attributed to Itachi is based solely off of your own stupidity. Manga has implied and databook his stated that the six paths are granted to all rinnegan users.
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I never said anything about Sasuke's amenotejakra so you're quoting the wrong person here you dumbass.
 
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Every piece of Naruto media heavily implies that the “Six Paths” jutsu come with the rinnegan, from Anime, to manga, to novels, to the games. Nothing ever implied that nagato created a single jutsu he used.
Six path jutsu came from the term madara used to teach Obito how to use the black rods in the cave, and even that was translated wrong by people. It still had nothing to do with the rinnegan because neither madara or Obito had one so he told Obito to use the black rods. It's a completely different jutsu.

The manga has called nagato's abilities "pain's jutsu" or "six pain jutsus" in the manga. I search the fourth databook for some raw texts and put them on varies search engines and they repeated the same thing about being the power of pain.

Unless you think Nagato created every Rinnegan summon, but for whatever reason Human and Outer paths already existed, and he just found out about CT. Clearly, those are the set six abilities of the Rinnegan.
The rinnegan summons were created by pain because his summoning contract are undead animals that are impaled with rods, six undead bodies with rods, and konan is part of animal path's summoning contract. The databook Obito's rinnegan summoning contract is the 6 jinchuurikis and Hagormoo's is the 9 bijus.

Outer path is the original power of the rinnegan, nagato created six pain powers but they all supplemented from the outer path to revive. You didn't know that nagato's animal path powers is just him using Outer path to revive deceased creatures he controls with the black rods?
 

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I'll address you two clowns in one comment.

Shinra Tensei is not specific to nagato. Hell nothing that Nagato has done with the rinnegan is specific to him. Shinra Tensei is part of the deva path which is one of the six (really seven) paths that are given to ALL rinnegan users. Now if you think for whatever reason that Shinra Tensei, specifically, is only limited to Nagato, the Databook has outright stated that those who possess the rinnegan can use this ability.

The six paths abilities come with the rinnegan, this has been implied throughout the whole series and trying to dispute this only makes you look like a moron.

Regarding the stuff I have bolded, the whole argument is just bullshit. Plain and simple, no reason to beat around the bush.

The logic that you used to come to the conclusion that Sasuke's ameno can be attributed to Itachi is based solely off of your own stupidity. Manga has implied and databook his stated that the six paths are granted to all rinnegan users.




Sasuke's CT is just objectively better then Madara's. By removing the drawback of needing a core, Sasuke gets rid of Chibaku Tensei's , of just destroying the core outright. Sasuke can also , so there is nothing stopping him from using his CT in the same manner that you suggested.


CT NEVER needed to start with a solid core.Madara made a solid core because AGAIN(Since you are a pretentious jack ass who is slow to the uptake) he was using using CT for a different purpose.Sasuke didn’t make a core because he was using it to imprison the tailed beast. Madara was making one to destroy things which requires mass to be effective.






You didn’t address anything. You are next to clueless. You are trying to imply sasuke’d CT doesn’t have a point of interest. Every CT needs a point of interest the only difference is that sasuke substituted the tailed beast for the black spheres..because he was using CT as a prison. If you removed the Tailed beast from the center the CT would have a stopped just like any other CT.
 
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Six path jutsu came from the term madara used to teach Obito how to use the black rods in the cave, and even that was translated wrong by people. It still had nothing to do with the rinnegan because neither madara or Obito had one so he told Obito to use the black rods. It's a completely different jutsu.

The manga has called nagato's abilities "pain's jutsu" or "six pain jutsus" in the manga. I search the fourth databook for some raw texts and put them on varies search engines and they repeated the same thing about being the power of pain.



The rinnegan summons were created by pain because his summoning contract are undead animals that are impaled with rods, six undead bodies with rods, and konan is part of animal path's summoning contract. The databook Obito's rinnegan summoning contract is the 6 jinchuurikis and Hagormoo's is the 9 bijus.

Outer path is the original power of the rinnegan, nagato created six pain powers but they all supplemented from the outer path to revive. You didn't know that nagato's animal path powers is just him using Outer path to revive deceased creatures he controls with the black rods?
Animal path is not exclusive to Nagato. If that were the case, summons that were previously obliterated or killed would not resurge like they did in the war. The only thing exclusive was his summoning of Konan. Indicative of the fact that Sasuke summoned his Hawk without blood after gaining the Rinnegan, as Obito did with the hawks, as Nagato did with animals.
Of course each individual could create their own additional exclusive contracts like Nagato and the multiheaded dog, but it is still a skill in itself.

Nagato’s jutsu, after the introduction of himself, we’re referred to as Six Paths, and Rinnegan abilities.

Madara also knew that it was possible to revive others w Rinnegan, hinting at knowledge of the king of Hell as well.

Absolutely nothing suggest the six paths to be unique to Nagato. Only his usage of them.
 
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CT NEVER needed to start with a solid core.Madara made a solid core because AGAIN(Since you are a pretentious jack ass who is slow to the uptake) he was using using CT for a different purpose.Sasuke didn’t make a core because he was using it to imprison the tailed beast. Madara was making one to destroy things which requires mass to be effective.






You didn’t address anything. You are next to clueless. You are trying to imply sasuke’d CT doesn’t have a point of interest. Every CT needs a point of interest the only difference is that sasuke substituted the tailed beast for the black spheres..because he was using CT as a prison. If you removed the Tailed beast from the center the CT would have a stopped just like any other CT.
For that matter why didn’t Nagato make Naruto the core when the goal was to capture him? They might all have the potential to use it, but the only one with that level of skill with that particular Jutsu is Sasuke.
 
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