Sasuke most advanced CT: Epicenter by eye contact

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Both Madara and NAgato required cores as their epicenters for CT

However Sasuke has displayed both in Naruto manga and Boruto anime that his CT's epicenter works by eye contact.

This means whatever he locks his eye on when activating CT will instantly become the epicenter making it the most advanced CT to date (Excluding Hagaromo) ofcourse.
 
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This isnt entirely true... Pein was able to do the visual epicenter too...

when he was fighting naruto in his beast mode, he made naruto the epicenter and covered him with debris
I was going to bring that up too but I think that was in the anime only. I can’t remember if it was in the manga though, but that wasn’t CT. But it is a similar concept.
 

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I was going to bring that up too but I think that was in the anime only. I can’t remember if it was in the manga though, but that wasn’t CT. But it is a similar concept.
Can’t it be used several ways? Isn’t the meteor Madara dropped on the SA also Chibaku Tensei? He didn’t creat a core fir that one or The 2nd one or is that another Jutsu altogether? I honestly can’t remember.
 

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Can’t it be used several ways? Isn’t the meteor Madara dropped on the SA also Chibaku Tensei? He didn’t creat a core fir that one or The 2nd one or is that another Jutsu altogether? I honestly can’t remember.
Tengai Shinsei is used by weaving hand signs, Madara used his Susano’o to assist with call them (the meteors) down. It requires 3 simultaneously hand-sign weaves. It isn’t explained how he managed to do that but we can’t conclude that it was CT. We also can’t conclude that CT was used to create those meteors.
 
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Tengai Shinsei is used by weaving hand signs, Madara used his Susano’o to assist with call them (the meteors) down. It requires 3 simultaneously hand-sign weaves. It isn’t explained how he managed to do that but we can’t conclude that it was CT. We also can’t conclude that CT was used to create those meteors.
I thought it would be closer to Bansho Tenin
 

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I thought it would be closer to Bansho Tenin
That's what I was thinking too. Some members of this base however, would argue "boo hoo, Madara can't use deva path. Deva path is unique to Nagato, who somehow is entitled to his own unique techniques with somebody else's freaking eyes!".

I am thinking of two members in particular who would argue this.
 

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That's what I was thinking too. Some members of this base however, would argue "boo hoo, Madara can't use deva path. Deva path is unique to Nagato, who somehow is entitled to his own unique techniques with somebody else's freaking eyes!".

I am thinking of two members in particular who would argue this.
Obito make it clear he could use human path. It's one of the 6 realms if he can he learnt them from somebody(Madara). And the fact it's one of the 6 paths debunks them being exclusive to Nagato. I suppose one could say Nagato's uniqueness in them is in that he used the via 6 bodies.

Yeah, when Pain turn Naruto to epicenter of the rubble in the anime, I believe it was Basho Tenin. But when Madara called down the meteors with Tengai, he weaved hand signs.
Bansho Tenin is more of the pull force used against Kakashi by Deva path as the core. Shigen Tensei would be pulling from heaven via Madara acting as the core. Chibaku Tensei creates a core seperate from the user which has a similar effect to Bansho Tenin but it's all directional.
 

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Obito make it clear he could use human path. It's one of the 6 realms if he can he learnt them from somebody(Madara). And the fact it's one of the 6 paths debunks them being exclusive to Nagato. I suppose one could say Nagato's uniqueness in them is in that he used the via 6 bodies.


Bansho Tenin is more of the pull force used against Kakashi by Deva path as the core. Shigen Tensei would be pulling from heaven via Madara acting as the core. Chibaku Tensei creates a core seperate from the user which has a similar effect to Bansho Tenin but it's all directional.

I was remembering it incorrectly, my mistake. In the anime, when Pain turned Naruto to epicenter, he repelled him away and also made rocks attach to him. That was a type of shinra Tensei and basho combination.
 

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He literally did this in VOTE2... plz delete your account
XD XD XD This is gold. That Aminegoin retarded dumbass is a waste of space. Can't even spell "are" correctly with that atrocious prime ape grammar of his but what do you expect from an inbred who can't even read? And he has the audacity to go around correcting other people's typos with shit.
 
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That's what I was thinking too. Some members of this base however, would argue "boo hoo, Madara can't use deva path. Deva path is unique to Nagato, who somehow is entitled to his own unique techniques with somebody else's freaking eyes!".

I am thinking of two members in particular who would argue this.
Why are you bitching? Madara can't use shinra tensei, Tendo is Pain's power and Madara had limbo as his central power. Why you gonna tell me that Momoshiki used shinra tensei/bansho tenin too?
 

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That's what I was thinking too. Some members of this base however, would argue "boo hoo, Madara can't use deva path. Deva path is unique to Nagato, who somehow is entitled to his own unique techniques with somebody else's freaking eyes!".

I am thinking of two members in particular who would argue this.
You're a fool.

Name one ability a character is implied to possess but doesn't show it even in the sequel of series though he gained it prior in prequel series.

I'm not one to give fake feats to characters I wish. I could use your retard logic and pass off Sasuke's ameno feats to Itachi since its his "eye" through which former awakened said Rinnegan. If you aren't aware EMS is awakened through transplanting a closer relative's eye. Meaning he awakened all of that because of Itachi and Itachi's eyes alone. I really hate it when fools on this site ignore context and pass off every statement whenever it suits them as fact.

Take that gibberish elsewhere.
 

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Why are you bitching? Madara can't use shinra tensei, Tendo is Pain's power and Madara had limbo as his central power. Why you gonna tell me that Momoshiki used shinra tensei/bansho tenin too?
That's not how eyes work in the NV. Borrowed users of eyes don't get their own powers with the eyes.

Kakashi had Obito's eye for a long time, and what MS jutsu did he get? Long range kamui. When Obito got that eye back, Obito gained access to the long ranged kamui.

Danzou had Shisui's eye, and what did he get? He got kotoamatsukami. He didn't get his own unique jutsu. He got Shisui's jutsu because it was Shisui's eye.

Now you may say, "Well then why didn't Nagato get limbo?". Simple: Only the original owner can use the unique power of the eye.

Also, stop bringing up Momoshiki. His rinnegan comes from an entirely different source (different shinju, different planet, different rinnegan, etc...) However, you are saying that Madara can't use a technique with his own eyes that we clearly saw someone else use (with Madara's own eyes). There is a difference here.

By the way, there is evidence to suggest that there are common techniques amongst all rinnegan users, but I won't get into it now because I have a bus to catch.
 
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That's not how eyes work in the NV. Borrowed users of eyes don't get their own powers with the eyes.
Says who? Kishi never said that in the manga so I don't know what you're talking about. Shinra tensei was created by Nagato almost similar to how Kakashi created Kamui lightning blade, Obito is not gonna start using kamui lightning blade now is he?



Kakashi had Obito's eye for a long time, and what MS jutsu did he get? Long range kamui. When Obito got that eye back, Obito gained access to the long ranged kamui.

Danzou had Shisui's eye, and what did he get? He got kotoamatsukami. He didn't get his own unique jutsu. He got Shisui's jutsu because it was Shisui's eye.
No, your conception is all wrong. Kamui is the power of Obito's eyes. Shinra tensei is a jutsu that was created by Nagato when he obtained the rinnegan because if you're gonna assume that every user automatically gets granted with other people's ocular feats then Nagato should be able to Limbo Hengoku just like Madara since Kakashi can use Obito's kamui.

You don't try to apply abc logic math with ocular powers, you need to know the difference between the ones that are created and the ones that come in automatically with the eyes.

Now you may say, "Well then why didn't Nagato get limbo?". Simple: Only the original owner can use the unique power of the eye.
That's interesting. So where was this stated in the manga? Better yet the databook? Simple, it doesn't exist because a bunch of members back in 2014-2015 made that up so Sasuke fans won't claim it as a feat. I was there during the beginning of it so you can't bullshit me. I used to be one of them.
Also, stop bringing up Momoshiki. His rinnegan comes from an entirely different source (different shinju, different planet, different rinnegan, etc...) However, you are saying that Madara can't use a technique with his own eyes that we clearly saw someone else use (with Madara's own eyes). There is a difference here.
A rinnegan is a rinnegan, there's no excuse you can make on how it was achieved because every rinnegan user acquired their rinnegan differently.
By the way, there is evidence to suggest that there are common techniques amongst all rinnegan users, but I won't get into it now because I have a bus to catch.
There is none.
 
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