jamarcusp17
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Re-watching the war arc, it seems that Madara has a lot of asspulls and plotholes. Madara shouldn't have been that strong. First of all, how were both of Nagato's eyes initially Madara's eyes? If I'm not mistaking, Madara used Izanagi in the battle against Hashirama, which meant that one of his eyes should have gone blind. So how did it manifest into the Rinnegan? And at what point did he give his eyes to Nagato? Was it before he met Obito? Because when he met Obito, Madara only had one eye, which was a Rinnegan. But he had to have given his eyes to Nagato before the Third Great War (when he met Obito), because I believe the Second Great War is the war the Sannin fought in and when Jiraiya met Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko. If that's the case, where does Madara keep getting new Rinnegans, and why didn't he have two when he met Obito?
In the war, Madara's power is just full of asspulls. There is no reason he should have been that strong. I can understand the fact that he was an Indra incarnate mixed with Ashura DNA at the time, but there are feats in the war that he shouldn't have been able to pull off. For example, how could he keep up with top ninja with no eyes? He was not a sensory ninja--no dojutsu user need to be a sensory ninja because all canon dojutsu are capable of seeing and distinguishing chakra. So how did he keep up with Tobirama's Flying Raijin jutsu, twice? How was he able to keep up with Sasuke's Sharingan-kenjutsu?
He shouldn't have been able to use his Sharingan jutsu, such as Limbo and Susano'o. And it can't be said that once the user has gained the ability, they can use it with or without the dojutsu. Because if that was the case, Obito should have been able to use long-range Kamui, and Kakashi should've been able to use short-range Kamui. Speaking of Kamui, how was Madara able to use Kamui while being the 10-Tailed Jinchuriki? Obito explicitly stated that he couldn't use Kamui to pass through attacks because he was the 10-Tailed Jinchuriki. But Madara, within a second of having Obito's Sharingan, could master the Kamui jutsu and bypass the fact that it can't be used as a 10-Tailed Jinchuriki?
And when he became human, he was absolutely invincible and stronger than when he was reanimated. Now tell me how that makes since. Hashirama's healing abilities can't be brought into this, because even Hashirama had to shield himself from various attacks. But Madara had absolute faith that he couldn't die because of Hashirama's healing DNA. He went head-to-head with the 9 tailed beasts and essentially came out unscathed. Speaking of his battle with the 9 tailed beasts, how in the hell could a human go up against all 9 of them and come out on top?
None of it makes sense. Can anyone help clear any of this up?
In the war, Madara's power is just full of asspulls. There is no reason he should have been that strong. I can understand the fact that he was an Indra incarnate mixed with Ashura DNA at the time, but there are feats in the war that he shouldn't have been able to pull off. For example, how could he keep up with top ninja with no eyes? He was not a sensory ninja--no dojutsu user need to be a sensory ninja because all canon dojutsu are capable of seeing and distinguishing chakra. So how did he keep up with Tobirama's Flying Raijin jutsu, twice? How was he able to keep up with Sasuke's Sharingan-kenjutsu?
He shouldn't have been able to use his Sharingan jutsu, such as Limbo and Susano'o. And it can't be said that once the user has gained the ability, they can use it with or without the dojutsu. Because if that was the case, Obito should have been able to use long-range Kamui, and Kakashi should've been able to use short-range Kamui. Speaking of Kamui, how was Madara able to use Kamui while being the 10-Tailed Jinchuriki? Obito explicitly stated that he couldn't use Kamui to pass through attacks because he was the 10-Tailed Jinchuriki. But Madara, within a second of having Obito's Sharingan, could master the Kamui jutsu and bypass the fact that it can't be used as a 10-Tailed Jinchuriki?
And when he became human, he was absolutely invincible and stronger than when he was reanimated. Now tell me how that makes since. Hashirama's healing abilities can't be brought into this, because even Hashirama had to shield himself from various attacks. But Madara had absolute faith that he couldn't die because of Hashirama's healing DNA. He went head-to-head with the 9 tailed beasts and essentially came out unscathed. Speaking of his battle with the 9 tailed beasts, how in the hell could a human go up against all 9 of them and come out on top?
None of it makes sense. Can anyone help clear any of this up?
