Analysing Kurenai's Genjutsu

Is Kurenai's genjutsu overlooked/underrated?


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salamander uchiha

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That was genjutsu Kurenai with a kunai. Show me where real Kurenai holds a kunai.

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I've put in spoilers several times but I guess you missed it. look at real Kurenai's hand and tell me what you see in it?
 
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Are you being serious?

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I've put in spoilers several times but I guess you missed it. look at real Kurenai's hand and tell me what you see in it?

if that's really kurenai where's her kunai go?
 

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Wait what?

Where did it go? If its real where did it go? From the moment the genjutsu ends there no kunai. Along with the tree the kunai is gone.

U know what that means right? U can put two and two together from that point on correct?
 

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Are you being serious?

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I've put in spoilers several times but I guess you missed it. look at real Kurenai's hand and tell me what you see in it?
That's a genjutsu, not reality. Unless you think Kurenai was bound by a tree in the real world.
 

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Wait what?

You claim real Kurenai was holding kunai . She was holding kunai in moments she bite her lips. Yet when she bite her lips (which resulted in ending genjutsu Itachi cast on her) Itachi immediately attacked her and she is not shown holding kunai , if that was real Kurenai she should still have kunai moment Itachi attacked her.Also she should have blood on her lips but she didn't (after genjutsu was released).

Kunai and blood are missing, it could be inconsistency, but if isn't then that Kurenai was clearly genjutsu Kurenai.
 

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That's a genjutsu, not reality. Unless you think Kurenai was bound by a tree in the real world.

I think I gave you too much credit, I guess it's my fault. That's the real Kurenai holding a Kunai bound by a genjutsu(the tree bind). I'm not going to repeat everything I've told you before if you can't comprehend that then I'm out.

Ps. I do hope you don't believe the Kurenai that was in the genjutsu was the fake Kurenai.
 

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Wait what?

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Anyhow, I still agree with you. You can see that Itachi still cuts her hair after she breaks the genjustu(I can assure you it happens because she certainly ducked) and you can see Itachi slicing. Itachi clearly had a kunai despite using the genjutsu, which would've supposedly killed her anyway. If she had already binded Itachi, there would be no reason for her to get closer to perform the rest of the genjutsu. Asuma was truly grazed as you say.
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It's questionable if Kisame was actually hit by a genjutsu from Kurenai. Kisame wasn't restrained and you can see it in the fact that his sword has torn its wrapping despite Asuma only being shredded ONCE it had torn the wrappings. It wasn't torn prior to shredding Asuma. Either this, or Kisame is only restrained AFTER attacking Asuma. Either way, Asuma was attacked first.
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^^^^ The wrapping wasn't torn while on Asuma's arm & it wasn't torn prior to being placed there.


I personally think it all happened in one instant & that Kisame and Asuma stopped to stare at what was going on with Itachi and Kurenai.
 
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You claim real Kurenai was holding kunai . She was holding kunai in moments she bite her lips. Yet when she bite her lips (which resulted in ending genjutsu Itachi cast on her) Itachi immediately attacked her and she is not shown holding kunai , if that was real Kurenai she should still have kunai moment Itachi attacked her.Also she should have blood on her lips but she didn't (after genjutsu was released).


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She slid to avoid Itachi she would've dropped her Kunai.

Kunai and blood are missing, it could be inconsistency, but if isn't then that Kurenai was clearly genjutsu Kurenai.

That was real kurenai she's show sliding to avoid the attack on all 4s. Put the lack of blood down to inconsistency if you like. That was definitely not genjutsu Kurenai as itachi tried to cut her up.

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Anyhow, I still agree with you. You can see that Itachi still cuts her hair after she breaks the genjustu(I can assure you it happens because she certainly ducked) and you can see Itachi slicing. Itachi clearly had a kunai despite using the genjutsu, which would've supposedly killed her anyway. If she had already binded Itachi, there would be no reason for her to get closer to perform the rest of the genjutsu. Asuma was truly grazed as you say.
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It's questionable if Kisame was actually hit by a genjutsu from Kurenai. Kisame wasn't restrained and you can see it in the fact that his sword has torn its wrapping despite Asuma only being shredded ONCE it had torn the wrappings. It wasn't torn prior to shredding Asuma. Either this, or Kisame is only restrained AFTER attacking Asuma. Either way, Asuma was attacked first.
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^^^^ The wrapping wasn't torn while on Asuma's arm & it wasn't torn prior to being placed there.


I personally think it all happened in one instant & that Kisame and Asuma stopped to stare at what was going on with Itachi and Kurenai.

Somebody else who sees what's happening here.
 
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I think I gave you too much credit, I guess it's my fault. That's the real Kurenai holding a Kunai bound by a genjutsu(the tree bind). I'm not going to repeat everything I've told you before if you can't comprehend that then I'm out.

Ps. I do hope you don't believe the Kurenai that was in the genjutsu was the fake Kurenai.

so you're just not gonna answer my question?
 

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I think I gave you too much credit, I guess it's my fault. That's the real Kurenai holding a Kunai bound by a genjutsu(the tree bind). I'm not going to repeat everything I've told you before if you can't comprehend that then I'm out.

Ps. I do hope you don't believe the Kurenai that was in the genjutsu was the fake Kurenai.
The real Kurenai isn't shown in that panel because it shows her wrapped by a tree which is clearly an illusion. Unless you think that in reality Kurenai is being held by a tree, that's not the real Kurenai.
 

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She slid to avoid Itachi she couldve drapped her Kunai.



That was real kurenai she's show sliding to avoid the attack on all 4s. Put the lack of blood down to inconsistency if you like. That was definitely not genjutsu Kurenai as itachi tried to cut her up.
Kurenai bit the left side of her lip & we were shown the right side of her face as well, so we should consider that we wouldn't be able to see her blood unless it dripped off of her chin.
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she then fell into water(which could've washed it away).
 
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You're question makes 0 sense you see a kunai in her hand. You don't even need 20/20 vision to see it.

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That's the literal next scan, where's the kunai.


Kurenai bit the left side of her lip & we were shown the right side of her face as well, so we should consider that we wouldn't be able to see her blood unless it dripped off of her chin.
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she then fell into water(which could've washed it away).

She bit the right side of her face not the left. Her right not your right. So try again
 
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She slid to avoid Itachi she would've dropped her Kunai.



That was real kurenai she's show sliding to avoid the attack on all 4s. Put the lack of blood down to inconsistency if you like. That was definitely not genjutsu Kurenai as itachi tried to cut her up.



Somebody else who sees what's happening here.

If she had kunai it was more logical to use it to block Itachi's own kunai instead of dropping it.

Anyway what really happened its beyond me I just wanted to tell what are they asking from you.
 

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The real Kurenai isn't shown in that panel because it shows her wrapped by a tree which is clearly an illusion. Unless you think that in reality Kurenai is being held by a tree, that's not the real Kurenai.

Are you purposefully feigning an inability to read my posts. That Kurenai bound by the genjutsu is the real Kurenai. It's the same 1 the real Itachi attacks. After breaking out of the tree bind she ducks and slides to avoid Itachi's attack. It's really not that hard to comprehend. Your point is as stupid as saying the Kakashi under the genjutsu isn't the real Kakashi.

Either way I'm done.

If she had kunai it was more logical to use it to block Itachi's own kunai instead of dropping it.

Anyway what really happened its beyond me I just wanted to tell what are they asking from you.

It wouldn't have been more logical since she slid to avoid the attack as well. That just shows how fast Itachi is.

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Itachi's speed can't be matched by Kakashi let alone Kurenai who claimed it was super human.

Thanks for telling me though, I'm out either way.

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That's the literal next scan, where's the kunai.

I dont know bro you tell me? She's on all 4s with slide marks in the first panel. She ducks and slides to avoid Itachi's attack. I'm pretty sure it's possible for her to drop it somewhere off panel.

Either way I'm done repeating myself.
 
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If she had kunai it was more logical to use it to block Itachi's own kunai instead of dropping it.

Anyway what really happened its beyond me I just wanted to tell what are they asking from you.

Kunai wouldn't help her block that shit. Look at what happened to Sasuke and his "god-speed" when taken by surprise(note that he still managed to block).
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Are you purposefully feigning an inability to read my posts. That Kurenai bound by the genjutsu is the real Kurenai. It's the same 1 the real Itachi attacks. After breaking out of the tree bind she ducks and slides to avoid Itachi's attack. It's really not that hard to comprehend. Your point is as stupid as saying the Kakashi under the genjutsu isn't the real Kakashi.

Either way I'm done.
I think it is you who is unable to read the manga. Do not blame me for your own shortcomings. The fact the fake tree is shown implies the image in the scan is fake, it's not what is happening in the real world. When the real Itachi attacks the real Kurenai, she has no kunai, no blood and there is no tree so how did you come to the conclusion that that is the real Kurenai? She has no kunai or the illusion.
 

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Kunai wouldn't help her block that shit. Look at what happened to Sasuke and his "god-speed" when taken by surprise(note that he still managed to block).
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Could she block it or not it doesn't matter at all ,what matters is that Sasuke kunai being dropped is shown on panel ,Kurenai's isn't.
 
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