Sarada Need A Super Sharingan Or Sum

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

We don't know if Sasuke wears thebcrest on his shirt or not. I for one don't like his weird fashion sense it's out of character imo. Anyway Uchiha are meant to generally be introverted so I don't hold that against him entirely.



I don't understand what you're trying to get at here. Was Obito ever hit by a Jonin level genjutsu or something?



Shisui wasn't self taught no uchiha were they would learn their clan techniques and train alone perfecting them. Madara Sama probably upgrade his techniques judging by his beastly Katon. And he had reason too as did Izuna and the other Uchiha they were fighting for survival. The strong survive and the weak die if they didn't train and died it was their fault.

That chakra jutsu limit crap is pure nonsense and bad writing by SP. Why's she a tactician even blurting out such nonsense even though her chakra was nerfed.



You're right you don't have to care for anybody that's your choice. I'm more pissed off at Sasuke for being too weak all because Itachi tnj'd him. Who knows we may get future development on the massacre in Sarada's life.

When you call Sasuke introverted for the sake of apologism towards some girl that never cared for her clan being slaughtered you know your standarts are lowering :|

Look, you and I know how much more applied and striving were the other Uchiha, and how they were much more likeable. Personality wise, especially, they were always family oriented and knew better than only loving Village or Clan. They were very 3D dimensioned.
Now we have some girl screaming she wants to be Hokage with no criticism whatsoever.

Apologism makes no sense if you know that Salad isn't as special as you thought her to be.

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Disney characters surpass her, and I'm not even talking about human characters. lol

 

[salamander uchiha]

When you call Sasuke introverted for the sake of apologism towards some girl that never cared for her clan being slaughtered you know your standarts are lowering :|

I'm not apologising on behalf of Sasuke, I'm with you in that regard. He should be teaching her and she should know the things but it's not happening for whatever reason.

Look, you and I know how much more applied and striving were the other Uchiha, and how they were much more likeable. Personality wise, especially, they were always family oriented and knew better than only loving Village or Clan. They were very 3D dimensioned.
Now we have some girl screaming she wants to be Hokage with no criticism whatsoever.

Apologism makes no sense if you know that Salad isn't as special as you thought her to be.

Spoiler

Disney characters surpass her, and I'm not even talking about human characters. lol

I fully agree on the Uchiha of the previous age, however I know that there's not much of a family environment around her. She wanted to care and learn about her family, she saw other people and their families and it rustled her.

Sarada screaming she wants to be Hokage isn't the issue although I'd prefer if she wasn't screaming as much. I'm more concerned if they whitewash the massacre or ignore it altogether. Who knows she may learn about it and change her priorities. Even our favourite Madara sama was going to become Hokage when he saw it wasn’t going to happen he left to fullfill a greater purpose.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I'm not apologising on behalf of Sasuke, I'm with you in that regard. He should be teaching her and she should know the things but it's not happening for whatever reason.



I fully agree on the Uchiha of the previous age, however I know that there's not much of a family environment around her. She wanted to care and learn about her family, she saw other people and their families and it rustled her.

Sarada screaming she wants to be Hokage isn't the issue although I'd prefer if she wasn't screaming as much. I'm more concerned if they whitewash the massacre or ignore it altogether. Who knows she may learn about it and change her priorities. Even our favourite Madara sama was going to become Hokage when he saw it wasn’t going to happen he left to fullfill a greater purpose.

Telling me she doesn't have family environment around her it doesn't excuses anything. Sasuke lived alone for most time, and only lived with the clan till the 7 years old. And yet he is the one screaming about family, clan in 688 chapters in a roll.

I fully respect your opinions, but still I can't understand how you can appreaciate her and Madara. He would obviously spit in all her achievements and tell her she is a shame.
Madara was going to become Hokage after knowing he would protect everybody, but knowing all the complexity involved, caring for all his brothers, sacrificing his life for honor. In her case it's all self glorification no matter how you look at it.
That's why in the noble robbers case she doesn't put her opinion. She doesn't have a true critical position.

 

[Exaar]

Some what agree.

Boruto has a unique/unknown dojutsu and some mystery seal

Mitskuki has a unique SM

Sarada currently is just a blend of sasuke/sakura at the moment, with nothing really unique or interesting to her name

 

[salamander uchiha]

Telling me she doesn't have family environment around her it doesn't excuses anything. Sasuke lived alone for most time, and only lived with the clan till the 7 years old. And yet he is the one screaming about family, clan in 688 chapters in a roll.

There's a difference between growing up with your parents, sibling, family, clan, having a roll model and then losing it all than never having experienced it. Sasuke's screaming is based on experience and expereincing that loss. Sarada's is based on never having the same experience as Sasuke so it's a valid excuse.

I fully respect your opinions, but still I can't understand how you can appreaciate her and Madara. He would obviously spit in all her achievements and tell her she is a shame.
Madara was going to become Hokage after knowing he would protect everybody, but knowing all the complexity involved, caring for all his brothers, sacrificing his life for honor. In her case it's all self glorification no matter how you look at it.
That's why in the noble robbers case she doesn't put her opinion. She doesn't have a true critical position.

Her goal came about once she understood the purpose of bonds. She wanted to build protect and preserve those bonds I don't see much distinction between her and Madara's goals in that respect. Madara sama came to the conclusion via experiencing loss and endless war she came to it through a different method.

The noble robbers arc is all filler I don't take it seriously. Are you trying to compare Kodachi's second rate writing to Kishi's masterful writing. You should remember one thing Kishi put his time and effort into writing his characters, giving them goals and resolve. Kodachi gives hands outs and powers labelling characters prodigies purely to justify those handouts.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

There's a difference between growing up with your parents, sibling, family, clan, having a roll model and then losing it all than never having experienced it. Sasuke's screaming is based on experience and expereincing that loss. Sarada's is based on never having the same experience as Sasuke so it's a valid excuse.



Her goal came about once she understood the purpose of bonds. She wanted to build protect and preserve those bonds I don't see much distinction between her and Madara's goals in that respect. Madara sama came to the conclusion via experiencing loss and endless war she came to it through a different method.

The noble robbers arc is all filler I don't take it seriously. Are you trying to compare Kodachi's second rate writing to Kishi's masterful writing. You should remember one thing Kishi put his time and effort into writing his characters, giving them goals and resolve. Kodachi gives hands outs and powers labelling characters prodigies purely to justify those handouts.

No, it's not a valid excuse, specially if Sakura spent all her time with her, and yet the brat has the nerve to scream she is fake and shouldn't be considered at all. What you think she know of bonds? What Naruto and Sakura told her? Nice. Next time when solving the Palestine problems, a totally stranger like USA can just hear the story about the bonds there and solve everything, right?
No. And no.
Madara understood bonds. She knows nothing about Hokage truly - if she did she would be more critical. She fangirls over Naruto and doesn't valorize her father's path at all.
Madara would gladly smash her face and glasses, and I would gladly support him. 7 year old Sasuke cared much more for clan and historical importance, and I bet 30 year old Salad will still be adoring with her soul Konoha or some other petty thing.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Sarada is a 12 year old girl, why the **** would anyone compare her ideology to Madara or shippuden Sasuke :|

She is not aware of all the details behind her clan, nor is she aware of all the intricate details of the world and its past suffering. She did not grow up in war, she did not watch her family die at the hands of her brother, and she did not grow up to get revenge and kill said brother, only to find out he did it for greater reasons and to protect her.

She grew up with a mother all her life, and a distant father who she now sees, and she has never been to war, or been around TRUE ninjas with a thirst for blood. She has only seen life from the eyes of a young girl who can only learn of the past from information she finds in books and words from the adults around her.

From what she has learned so far, she has decided she wants to be someone who holds the peace, like Naruto does. That is not a bad goal for a 12 year old girl who knows so little about the world because of her age and circumstances.

 

[BlazeRelease]

essentially, you are criticizing Sarada's CHARACTER for the circumstances the writer has put her in. It is no fault of her own that she has not been taught every detail of Konoha's history or even her own clans.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

Sarada is a 12 year old girl, why the **** would anyone compare her ideology to Madara or shippuden Sasuke :|

She is not aware of all the details behind her clan, nor is she aware of all the intricate details of the world and its past suffering. She did not grow up in war, she did not watch her family die at the hands of her brother, and she did not grow up to get revenge and kill said brother, only to find out he did it for greater reasons and to protect her.

She grew up with a mother all her life, and a distant father who she now sees, and she has never been to war, or been around TRUE ninjas with a thirst for blood. She has only seen life from the eyes of a young girl who can only learn of the past from information she finds in books and words from the adults around her.

From what she has learned so far, she has decided she wants to be someone who holds the peace, like Naruto does. That is not a bad goal for a 12 year old girl who knows so little about the world because of her age and circumstances.

Because peace doesn't excuse any ignorance behaviour towards the emblem she carries every freaking day, nor adoring blindly propaganda of Will of Fire, nor spitting in the person that raised her all her life, whining about father not being home while I'm sure a lot of NV characters in her age behave better in worse situations, nor spitting in her father's footsteps, and all the stigma she is bringing into the Uchiha power legacy.

Simba and Nala are freaking Disney characters, that live in a much more peaceful environment, and they can fully understand the importance of the things that were constructed with much suffering and dying before they were even born.
The moment when a Disney characters surpasses your shonen character, you know you have low standarts.

Sad. Sad. Sad.U_U

 

[salamander uchiha]

No, it's not a valid excuse, specially if Sakura spent all her time with her, and yet the brat has the nerve to scream she is fake and shouldn't be considered at all. What you think she know of bonds? What Naruto and Sakura told her? Nice. Next time when solving the Palestine problems, a totally stranger like USA can just hear the story about the bonds there and solve everything, right?
No. And no.

That's just it Sakura also works and Sarada does things herself. Whenever she asks a question she's brushed off or given a vague answer. She sees other children with their fathers and families and asks about hers she's always brushed off. She wants to know what makes her like her father is ot the glasses, she keeps being called an Uchiha yet she doesn't know what it means to be one. Then she goes to find out the truth and Sasuke pretty much tells her it's none of her business and shits on her, she thinks Karin's her mother and Sakura's been lieing to her, her whole life. She valued bonds enough to look for them when she felt betrayed she felt it was a false bond to begin with. However after TNJ and reflecting she learnt bonds transcend blood and to look for the good in hers and Sakura's. So yeah I don't see a problem with that.

Don't bring the US and Palestine into it we all know what's going on there.

Madara understood bonds. She knows nothing about Hokage truly - if she did she would be more critical. She fangirls over Naruto and doesn't valorize her father's path at all.

Madara sama did understand bonds and what their loss means he lost many over the wars. Sarada experienced a loss of a bond before the TNJ that doesn't take away from her experiencing it. It's nowhere near what Madara Sama experienced but experience still exists. How can she value Sasuke's path when he never shared it with her?

Madara would gladly smash her face and glasses, and I would gladly support him. 7 year old Sasuke cared much more for clan and historical importance, and I bet 30 year old Salad will still be adoring with her soul Konoha or some other petty thing.

Now you're going back to that 7 year old Sasuke who had everything, clan, family, the full works before losing it all. He knew the Uchiha name and what it meant to be Uchiha so he was proud of it. Who taught Sarada if you go to gaiden she's told she'll pass because she's an Uchiha and she doesn't even know what it means. Who's fault is that? Sasuke's for abandoning his family and not teaching his daughter what it means to be Uchiha.

I think we're done here you're clearly venting your frustration, if it helps I've always advocated for the cloning of Uchiha Madara. A young one around team 7's age who will be the main lead character and true hero the manga much needs. Somebody who can bring the old and new world together.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

essentially, you are criticizing Sarada's CHARACTER for the circumstances the writer has put her in. It is no fault of her own that she has not been taught every detail of Konoha's history or even her own clans.

Wow, she can't even begin to ask about the emblem she carries every freaking day. It's such a hard task, isn't it?
Wrong. 7 year old Sasuke did much better than her.

Again, Simba has a much more naive and playful side to him, and yet he is able to take time and listen to memorable passages, every single person remembers.

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Don't even come whining: it's noooot the same storyyyy. blah blah blah.
It's a movie character from Disney. If your shonen character isn't able to surpass this level of complexity, yeah, you have low standarts.

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

That's just it Sakura also works and Sarada does things herself. Whenever she asks a question she's brushed off or given a vague answer. She sees other children with their fathers and families and asks about hers she's always brushed off. She wants to know what makes her like her father is ot the glasses, she keeps being called an Uchiha yet she doesn't know what it means to be one. Then she goes to find out the truth and Sasuke pretty much tells her it's none of her business and shits on her, she thinks Karin's her mother and Sakura's been lieing to her, her whole life. She valued bonds enough to look for them when she felt betrayed she felt it was a false bond to begin with. However after TNJ and reflecting she learnt bonds transcend blood and to look for the good in hers and Sakura's. So yeah I don't see a problem with that.

Don't bring the US and Palestine into it we all know what's going on there.





Madara sama did understand bonds and what their loss means he lost many over the wars. Sarada experienced a loss of a bond before the TNJ that doesn't take away from her experiencing it. It's nowhere near what Madara Sama experienced but experience still exists. How can she value Sasuke's path when he never shared it with her?



Now you're going back to that 7 year old Sasuke who had everything, clan, family, the full works before losing it all. He knew the Uchiha name and what it meant to be Uchiha so he was proud of it. Who taught Sarada if you go to gaiden she's told she'll pass because she's an Uchiha and she doesn't even know what it means. Who's fault is that? Sasuke's for abandoning his family and not teaching his daughter what it means to be Uchiha.

I think we're done here you're clearly venting your frustration, if it helps I've always advocated for the cloning of Uchiha Madara. A young one around team 7's age who will be the main lead character and true hero the manga much needs. Somebody who can bring the old and new world together.

Ha. Every time I bring a valid point you dismiss it as nerf, filler, or it isn't Sarada's fault.

7 year old Sasuke was somehow spoiled boy that never saw anything but his dinosaur + direct family. Yet he takes time to learn about his family history. Salad is so willing ignorant that there is huge picture of Uchiha emblem and she still doesn't take time to ask people about Uchiha massacre. Sasuke doesn't want to share anything with her? I wouldn't too for a kid screaming and shaming my reputation in fron of everybody, and that spits on her own mother who raised her all this time.

Madara doesn't deserve be compared with someone that calls herself Uchiha and doesn't even suspect of the misterious disapperance of the Uchiha. Madara was someone who was able to surpass war propaganda, she is someone that tells that dad is a failure because wasn't able to achieve Hokage position.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Ha. Every time I bring a valid point you dismiss it as nerf, filler, or it isn't Sarada's fault.

A large part of it is nerf when looked at prior abilities and performance. It's like we know what Madara sama is capable of but are we going to deny he was nerfed post revival? We know all it would've taken Sasuke to take down Naruto was Chidori Nagashi on the ground but he didn't use it once. You have to look at the context of everything that's going down if it's the same then you'd have a point. But the points and scenarios your bringing aren't the same, neither are their situations the same.

7 year old Sasuke was somehow spoiled boy that never saw anything but his dinosaur + direct family. Yet he takes time to learn about his family history. Salad is so willing ignorant that there is huge picture of Uchiha emblem and she still doesn't take time to ask people about Uchiha massacre. Sasuke doesn't want to share anything with her? I wouldn't too for a kid screaming and shaming my reputation in fron of everybody, and that spits on her own mother who raised her all this time.

We've done this dance several times nowand I've addressed these points. Just say it I don't like a female Uchiha who knows nothing about her clan and she's a bigger disgrace because she wears glasses. You just want to bash her and you need to find excuses to do so especially when they're put under scrutiny they don't hold solid weight. Yeah she's meant to know they were massacred and people are really going to tell her when they keep so many secrets.

Madara doesn't deserve be compared with someone that calls herself Uchiha and doesn't even suspect of the misterious disapperance of the Uchiha. Madara was someone who was able to surpass war propaganda, she is someone that tells that dad is a failure because wasn't able to achieve Hokage position.

The comparison was only in an aspect not the whole the truth is nobody can compare to Madara Sama.Well yeah Sasuke failed because he gave into bad writing at the end. What's she meant to say "dad's the best because... he's never around, tried to off me, said he'd become Hokage but didn't but..." The purpose of her saying that is I'm not going to fail, I'm going to achieve my goal.

Anyway I'm done on this take care.

 

[saradax]

Did you miss the preview? Kinshiki attacks her, probably because he somehow finds out she's Sasuke's daughter.

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[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

A large part of it is nerf when looked at prior abilities and performance. It's like we know what Madara sama is capable of but are we going to deny he was nerfed post revival? We know all it would've taken Sasuke to take down Naruto was Chidori Nagashi on the ground but he didn't use it once. You have to look at the context of everything that's going down if it's the same then you'd have a point. But the points and scenarios your bringing aren't the same, neither are their situations the same.



We've done this dance several times nowand I've addressed these points. Just say it I don't like a female Uchiha who knows nothing about her clan and she's a bigger disgrace because she wears glasses. You just want to bash her and you need to find excuses to do so especially when they're put under scrutiny they don't hold solid weight. Yeah she's meant to know they were massacred and people are really going to tell her when they keep so many secrets.



The comparison was only in an aspect not the whole the truth is nobody can compare to Madara Sama.Well yeah Sasuke failed because he gave into bad writing at the end. What's she meant to say "dad's the best because... he's never around, tried to off me, said he'd become Hokage but didn't but..." The purpose of her saying that is I'm not going to fail, I'm going to achieve my goal.

Anyway I'm done on this take care.

No I won't admit any of that because I was expecting much more for Sasuke's offpring yes, and that's why I'm indignant.
Sorry someone that after just 3 techs says she is low on chakra isn't being nerfed no matter how you want it to be like that, so your phantasies about a Uchiha princess can come true.
Take care and please reconsider supporting Salad, because it messes my head you understand Madara's character and his convictions, and then you fully support someone that proves Madara's fears right: supporting blindly the system that killed her own family with no criticism whatsoever about the own world she lives. All she cares is about whining about Boruto, boys, how she is going to become Hokage because it's a shiny desk.

Disney characters simply are surpassing NV ones, and I'm not the only one feeling like this. The entire base that left agrees with me.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Sorry someone that after just 3 techs says she is low on chakra isn't being nerfed no matter how you want it to be like that, so your phantasies about a Uchiha princess can come true..

I just wanted to clear up this last point, Sarada used many more chakra intensive jutsu against Buntan and that was after losing half her chakra via the loss of her shadow clone. What happened after 3 jutsu was blatant nerf in comparison to what she's done before. She's definitely being nerfed in the chakra department even the sharingan is nerfed it's somehow become chakra intensive. She doesn't have as low chakra as you think that's just shit writing by SP to eliminate her. She has more chakra than Boruto as confirmed by their stats.

On that note I'm out.

Edit: Sharingan use (supposedly chakra intensive in Boruto)
Shadow clone Jutsu 1/2 her chakra lost.
After losing 1/2 her chakra
Lightning ball 1
Lightning ball 19 simultaneously.
Lightning funeral
Lightning armour and boosted by adding more chakra.
Genjutsu

This is ignoring all else that was going on like water walking and avoiding Buntan's attacks etc. All the while having her chakra intensive sharingan active.

Compared to chunin exam nerf we can see the difference.

Edit 2: part 1 Naruto isn't an Uchiha and has has more chakra than Kakashi who has average chakra reserves for a Jonin. He's also the host of the 9 tails which affords many benefits from increased endurance to faster recovery speed

 

[UCHIHAKUNOICHI]

I just wanted to clear up this last point, Sarada used many more jutsu in the mist arc and that was after losing half her chakra via the loss of her shadow clone. What happened after 3 jutsu was blatant nerf in comparison to what she's done before. She's definitely being nerfed in the chakra department even the sharingan is nerfed it's somehow become chakra intensive. She doesn't have as low chakra as you think that's just shit writing by SP she has more chakra than Boruto as confirmed by their stats.

On that note I'm out.

Let me clear something for the guests: no, Sarada is just that low on chakra. The first time she activates the Sharingan with Konohamaru she passes out. And about the Buntan fight she used just as many chakra in the Chuuin exam. What happened with the Buntan fight: she passed out again, and had to be carried away because her legs couldn't move anymore. Edit and the fight didn't even last that long. Part 1 Naruto was able to go with his own chakra much longer periods of intense fighting. No matter how you look at it, Sasuke never collapsed due loss of chakra in such a small period of time. Uchiha are known for strong chakra, and even some more chakra reserve than others. What happened in the Chuunin exam? She got low on chakra. Again.

Please, take care and reconsider supporting such a terrible character. I expect much more from you.
Bye, until next time.

 

[Dantee]

Obito's MS was able to make a fodder like Kakashi keep up with Kaguya - literally the strongest being to ever live in NV.

So no super sharingan BS or anything, all she needs is her MS.

This. You must have forgotten that her MS can have any ability and that ability may very well put her on frontlines of all that is to come. The sharingan was a super natural power of the original manga so why are you doubting it now.

 

[super michael]

She already has 3T in the novel (post momoshiki arc) and she's 12. What, do you think she'll be stuck on 3T forever?

Yea, keep telling that to yourself, maybe someday even you will believe it.

Where can I read those novel? I keep hearing there are novel.

 

[BlazeRelease]

"Peace doesn't excuse Ignorance"

Ignorance does not require an excuse :|

Do you understand what ignorance is? If so, then you'd understand why it isn't Sarada's fault that she doesn't know the history behind the clan or villages shadow.

It is the responsibility of her predecessors to teach her the truths behind the clans and villages, if they don't, she literally has no way of knowing.

Imagine if you died and went to a hell from some religion you never heard about and the god of that religion said "You are in hell because you didn't worship me" And you reply: "I didn't know ____ism was the true religion, I never even heard of it!"
And the god replies "That's your fault, ignorance is no excuse for not knowing."

WOWEE!

Or a more realistic example: You and a buddy go to the store, and they steal something. You didn't know. He gets caught, and you go to court with him because you were there. In court, your buddy says you didn't know anything about it, and the camera at the store proves you made no moves to assist your buddy, and the footage heavily implies you had no idea it was happening.

Yet the judge says: "Sorry, you are an accessory to the crime, and ignorance is no excuse."

Totally reasonable, totally fair.

You can't be held responsible for not having information that you never knew you were supposed to have. A college course on photography can not fail you for not knowing latin. Sarada can't be faulted for not magically acquiring information that is classified Konoha history, especially when her parents and Naruto seem to be actively hiding it from her. There is an episode where she reads from a scroll in the library of the Uchiha's past. It mentions nothing of the massacre, just that they were wiped out some time recently.

She knows nothing of Itachi, Sasuke, the Uchiha's planned revolution, or any of sasuke's sins on the path of hatred. There is NO way of her getting that info except from the mouths of those who experienced it. And there is NO WAY she would ever know to ask, because she has no idea that there even IS something to ask.

Silly.