Ikemoto's Improvement

[To Whatever]

didnt ikemoto handle environments during Naruto?

 

[Reboryushon]

I know you won't. You can like Kishimoto's simpler style, but you can't deny Ikemoto shows stronger form and detail in his environments. Also noticing a trend where you push out harsher edits. LMAO.

Ofc i deny it. Kishimoto's environments and characters are fantastic. We are talking about one of the best Mangakas ever, with art that proves exactly that. On the other hand you prefer Ikemoto's style as a Mangaka, like i said, to each his own.

That trend is all in your head but I couldn't care less to be honest.

didnt ikemoto handle environments during Naruto?

Kind of.

ikio Ikemoto (池本幹雄, Ikemoto Mikio) was Masashi Kishimoto's third assistant during his fifteen years of working on the Naruto manga. In an assistant spotlight included with volume 6 of the manga, Kishimoto listed Ikemoto's duties as: "works as a 'mob', drawing crowds and background figures, adding the white to speed lines, highlights, and characters' eyes, and whiting out any art that goes out of the panel and into the gutter, as well as putting stars in the night sky, and adding in half-tones."

In a 2016 interview published in Weekly Shōnen Jump, Kishimoto revealed that Ikemoto also contributed to character designs for the series, notably designing many of the background characters, as well as Haku, Zabuza Momochi, and Hiruzen Sarutobi's battle attire.

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[HowDidIGetPrem]

Ofc i deny it. Kishimoto's environments and characters are fantastic. We are talking about one of the best Mangakas ever, with art that proves exactly that. On the other hand you prefer Ikemoto's style as a Mangaka, like i said, to each his own.

That trend is all in your head but I couldn't care less to be honest.

Throw out that. Let's talk shapes, shading, and the objective, that's where Ikemoto's environments shit on Kishimoto's dry ones.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Well yeah when you draw something so much you're bound to get better and more detailed the longer you go. Let's compare Naruto chap 1 to mid 20s and to end and we could see the same thing.

 

[MomoSaka]

He's getting better, but not that much. :/

 

[Reboryushon]

Throw out that. Let's talk shapes, shading, and the objective, that's where Ikemoto's environments shit on Kishimoto's dry ones.

Why would i throw out my opinion and funnel things to where you want to take them? You still lose. Ikemoto has nothing on Kishi.

What do you mean by objective?

Edit: Even the panels you posted before don't have anything on Kishi's.

 

[NextGenNinja]

I wonder how much it took Kishimoto to draw this...

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I really doubt Kishi drew all of that by himself, he usually had a bunch of assistants helping him draw the manga.

didnt ikemoto handle environments during Naruto?

Kishi listed Ike's duties "as works as a 'mob', drawing crowds and background figures, adding the white to speed lines, highlights, and characters' eyes, and whiting out any art that goes out of the panel and into the gutter, as well as putting stars in the night sky, and adding in half-tones."

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Why would i throw out my opinion and funnel things to where you want to take them? You still lose. Ikemoto has nothing on Kishi.

What do you mean by objective?

Edit: Even the panels you posted before don't have anything on Kishi's.

To prove that you aren't wanking Kishimoto due to pure preference. When I say objective, I mean the unquestionable. You can say you don't like realistic art and that it's worse than minimalist art, but you can't deny that realistic art includes complex shading and shapes.

Just look at the Hokage Rock and how detailed it is.

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The "shading" is no more than crevices. The only things that stand out in the panel is there being a shit load of basic-geometrically shaped buildings and the perspective, which is just two point perspective anyhow.

Ikemoto's environments are unquestionably more defined and varied in leveling with strong shapes.

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[Pulkit singh3]

To prove that you aren't wanking Kishimoto due to pure preference. When I say objective, I mean the unquestionable. You can say you don't like realistic art and that it's worse than minimalist art, but you can't deny that realistic art includes complex shading and shapes.

Just look at the Hokage Rock and how detailed it is.

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The "shading" is no more than crevices. The only things that stand out in the panel is there being a shit load of basic-geometrically shaped buildings and the perspective, which is just two point perspective anyhow.

Ikemoto's environments are unquestionably more defined and varied in leveling with strong shapes.

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Stop man kishimoto received like 2 national awards for his art while Ikemoto's style sucks so bad that people literally move out of whole Boruto franchise.

Best manga artists are One piece artist and Naruto artist rest can't stand against them even Toriyama lacks the skills to compete against Kishimoto (the man created biggest anime of all time) and you're comparing Ikemoto the man who can't even create manga as good as some fan arts to him.

 

[Dgrayman]

He did improve, Boruto looked dope with his seal activated

 

[Animegoin]

He's getting better, but not that much. :/

I’d go so far as to say he hasn’t improved at all, to be honest.

 

[123fire]

I’d go so far as to say he hasn’t improved at all, to be honest.

Are u blind? How is the first panel the same as the second panel? :kk:

 

[Animegoin]

Are u blind? How is the first panel the same as the second panel? :kk:

No, You’re blind. The tone of the two scenes are entirely different. Yes, the first chapter didn’t have any character shading compared to the later chapters but is that really something to be so ignorantly gleeful about? So much so to go around saying, “I can’t believe how much he improved”? Delusional.

 

[123fire]

No, You’re blind. The tone of the two scenes are entirely different. Yes, the first chapter didn’t have any character shading compared to the later chapters but is that really something to be so ignorantly gleeful about? So much so to go around saying, “I can’t believe how much he improved”? Delusional.

 

[Animegoin]

Lmfao as I predicted, rustled. :Sparks:

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Stop man kishimoto received like 2 national awards for his art while Ikemoto's style sucks so bad that people literally move out of whole Boruto franchise.

Best manga artists are One piece artist and Naruto artist rest can't stand against them even Toriyama lacks the skills to compete against Kishimoto (the man created biggest anime of all time) and you're comparing Ikemoto the man who can't even create manga as good as some fan arts to him.

Great thing my entire post had zero basis on what people subjectively thought of it. If you reread this thread from start to finish, heck, even the title alone, you'll realize that bold means not a thing to me for chronological reasons. Kishimoto's noteworthy award, the "Quil Award," wasn't merited specifically because of his art either. It was for the manga in general, the story and popularity behind it. I'm speaking of art specifically.

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There's so many holes in what you're arguing that it's ridiculous. Both Toriyama's(same face) and Oda's(silly, wonky) art are prime prey for being teared into by many(no, I'm not shitting on their art), so it doesn't even go along with your mob-driven argument.

 

[To Whatever]

People think One-Piece's art is shit.

 

[kiiro]

If I dont remember wrong, Ikemoto just have different style.

He used more curves while Kishimoto uses more straight lines.

Both are good, they have been drawing a lot of time. Sometimes they just might not want to draw with details. Look at this drawing:

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That is Togashi from HxH, that is way ugly. But he also can draw very good:

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The same with Ikemoto, he is very good if he wants to. I like his style but Kishimoto has shown better draws.

 

[Animegoin]

People think One-Piece's art is shit.

I’m one of those people, wholeheartedly. I know the artist can draw “good” if wants to though, which is where Ikemoto differs.

 

[To Whatever]

I’m one of those people, wholeheartedly. I know the artist can draw “good” if wants to though, which is where Ikemoto differs.

You have a narrow view of art then.