Debate: Who’s the most ruthless Naruto character to date

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Orochimaru is by far the most ruthless. Orochimaru not only used other's bodies so that he can later take it over, but he went from body to body to be able to extent his life and gain his youth back. Not to mention he created a better version of the Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei (Summoning Jutsu: Reanimation). Orochimaru killed his master (3rd Hokage) before Pain killed his master (Jaraiya), and Orochimaru said that the only reason he left Akatsuki is because he was no longer the strongest one when Itachi showed up.
Orochimaru was constantly trying to get his hands on the Sharingan and if Itachi didn't kill the clan than Orochimaru would have done it like Danzo. Orochimaru will cause people to serve him even to death and upon their death Orochimaru would just be like, well, I didn't need them anymore anyway. Orochimaru is brutal and worth than Pain. Pain focused on his hatred towards Hanzou and anything connected to him.
Orochimaru would toy with the people's lives and emotions, experiment on them, imprison people in his hideouts, kill his subordinates, gather people for death as practice like when Sasuke defeated over 100 men and Orochimaru said he was too soft for not killing them, possess people's bodies, then reincarnate the dead to make them his battle slave over and over again.
 

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Also Jiraiya for peeking in on so many showers in his life time that are equivalent to the same number of times a man masturbates in his life time; and also the number of times he probably masturbated from seeing so many voluptuous bodies soaked in hot weater.
 

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Danzo for me.

He pushed for the Uchiha massacre.

Worked with Orochimaru and funded his experiments.

Had dealings with Hanzo to betray old Akatsuki.

The village could have prepped for Pain and maybe even
discovered his secret before he arrived had he not killed that frog.

Among other deplorable things.
 

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Orochimaru.

I still feel bad for Kimimaro, I really think that he viewed Oro as a father figure to him, but little did he know...

Then there's also Kabuto, the sound 4 members, the 3 sound ninjas that particiapted on the CE, Anko, Tsunade, Yamato, and his other countless experiments.

He was about to kill Nagato and his friends too when they were just a bunch of kids.
 
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Orochimaru.

I still feel bad for Kimamaru, I really think that he viewed Oro as a father figure to him, but little did he know...

Then there's also Kabuto, the sound 4 members, the 3 sound ninjas that particiapted on the CE, Anko, Tsunade, Yamato, and his other countless experiments.

He was about to kill Nagato and his friends too when they were just a bunch of kids.
agree with oro...he toy with a life for small pleasure n nothing more........even now he does it with shin clones and his own childrens.....
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">That was more like revenge against Hanzo</div>
 

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When you say ruthless are you referring to specific actions or a character in their entirety?

I would say the #1 is between Danzo and Blackzetsu and I will explain why.

When you look at the actions of other characters you notice they did things in retaliation or for the greater good:

2) What Nagato did was ruthless but Hanzo actually brought that on himself when he forced him to take out Yahiko.

3) Itachi actions were ruthless but they were for the greater good

4) Orochimaru was a scientist so naturally his view on life is pure mathematical with little to no remorse for others. You can call him ruthless but he's not trying to be that way.

5) Sasori was extremely ruthless as he completely locked away his emotions to pursue his own agenda. I dont believe he takes #1 spot simply because in the end he simply wanted to be loved

6) Gaara just wanted to be loved and acted out based on the hatred that was given to him.


Anyways I vote Danzo as the most ruthless simply because his only motive was himself. He constantly used and discarded people for his own agenda under the umbrella of "For the leaf or Root" while simultaneously going against the very thing he was supposed to protect. It wasn't for science, revenge or hate. He simply did it just to get where he needed. A True Sociopath.

Lets look at what Danzo did.

Direct Correlation with the top 3 most ruthless incidents i mentioned earlier:

Danzo Direct Involvement:

2) What Nagato did was ruthless but Hanzo actually brought that on himself when he forced him to take out Yahiko.
3) Itachi actions were ruthless but they were for the greater good


4) Used orphanages to recruit child soldiers for root and to be spies
5) Forced comrades to kill one another (Sai,Dan,Kabuto and his Mother)
6) Sabotaged missions for his own benefit (Leaf Assault in part 1/Pain Arc attack)
7) Used conflict to his advantage even when it was his own people (Uchiha massacre/Pain assault/Nine tails incident)
8) Aided Orochimaru in his experiments and possibly hid him just so he could get Senju/Sharingan upgrades
9) Countless Shinobi died under him for the sake of his own Agenda
Was asked through PM to explain why i chose Danzo. If you didn't read the first page comment here it is in relation to Danzo
 

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There are many ruthless characters with varying reasons and motives some we sympathise with others we don't. It's all down to personal preference and how we look at each characters actions in relarion to our values.

Danzo is considered ruthless but he behaved like any black ops commander, doing whatever is necessary to ensure the supremacy of Konoha over it's enemies. Hiruzen is in the same camp as Danzo for he knew and allowed the actions.

Tobirama has nazi tendencies and insecurities but he did whatever he had to to ensure his will is passed on. He is the forerunner of both Orochimaru and Danzo who manifested aspects of him.

Nagato did whatever he had to seeing endless war, suffering, betrayal of rhose who wanted to bring peace. He became judge, jury and executioner completely annihilating anybody who tried to oppose him and his view.

Orochimaru had goals of wanting to understand everything and kidnapped and experimented on all sorts of people to achieve his ends.

Obito lost one who he wanted to give a good dicking to and became ruthless, cold and uncaring. He massacred a group of people and instituted the bloody mist era. He wiped out his own clan and people over a girl.

Madara Sama saw endless war, corruption and wanted to bring an end to war and liberate the world.

From amongst them Tobirama, Orochimaru stand out followed by Obito.
 
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There are many ruthless characters with varying reasons and motives some we sympathise with others we don't. It's all down to personal preference and how we look at each characters actions in relarion to our values.

Danzo is considered ruthless but he behaved like any black ops commander, doing whatever is necessary to ensure the supremacy of Konoha over it's enemies. Hiruzen is in the same camp as Danzo for he knew and allowed the actions.
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I voted danzo simply because he used the "Konoha supremacy" as a shroud to cover up the fact that he was ultimately for himself.

Danzo infact did quite a few things that were against Konoha's best interest.

Hiding Orochimaru to get Senju/Uchiha abilities after he attacked the village and killed hiruzen
Killed the frog that was going to warn Kononha of Pain so he could become Hokage
Worked with Hanzo during the Akatsuki decision which lead to Nagato becoming pain

His "Make Konoha great again(lol)" speeches were lies to get the power he always wanted.
 
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I voted danzo simply because he used the "Konoha supremacy" as a shroud to cover up the fact that he was ultimately for himself.

Danzo infact did quite a few things that were against Konoha's best interest.

Hiding Orochimaru to get Senju/Uchiha abilities after he attacked the village and killed hiruzen
Killed the frog that was going to warn Kononha of Pain so he could become Hokage


His "Make Konoha great again(lol)" speeches were lies to get the power he always wanted.
Danzo would disagree with you. If the timeline is correct then Danzo helping Orochimaru was prior to Hiruzen's death. Anyway in his eyes Konoha gaining Mokuton would be more beneficial to Konoha so he'd be doing the right thing.

Danzo's killing of the frog was to ensure the 9 tails wouldn't be anywhere near konoha so it would be out of Pain's reach. He doesn't have k oweldge of the unseen and was taking the necessary precautions.

Danzo wanting to become Hokage was because he believed that under the rule of the 3rd and Tsunade konoha had weakened. He intended to lead it into a golden age and would do whatever was necessary to ensure that.

Danzo's actions are unethical there's no doubt however they're understandable if his character and purpose are looked at.
 

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Danzo would disagree with you. If the timeline is correct then Danzo helping Orochimaru was prior to Hiruzen's death. Anyway in his eyes Konoha gaining Mokuton would be more beneficial to Konoha so he'd be doing the right thing.

Danzo's killing of the frog was to ensure the 9 tails wouldn't be anywhere near konoha so it would be out of Pain's reach. He doesn't have k oweldge of the unseen and was taking the necessary precautions.

Danzo wanting to become Hokage was because he believed that under the rule of the 3rd and Tsunade konoha had weakened. He intended to lead it into a golden age and would do whatever was necessary to ensure that.

Danzo's actions are unethical there's no doubt however they're understandable if his character and purpose are looked at.
Im not going to argue for the sake of arguing so i will ask you this.

What was Danzo's mindset in relation to Kabuto and his mother?
Sai and his Brother?
 
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