Momoshiki’s time-stop Justu cast via Rinnegan? ?

[Animegoin]

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Again misunderstanding what i said. When did i say you said this? You claimed Boruto left that area before it was cast which makes no sense as Boruto remained in the same position he was in after he used the rasengan on Momo.

So basically you're telling me Momo cast the freeze on the others while excluding Boruto initially without any reason and even worse, you're implying Momo somehow got scared of Boruto because he could sense him then proceeded to freeze him?



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And you say i'm reaching lol.. So Itachi unleashed Susanoo and the Susanoo walked away and left Itachi behind to do its own thing? Sorry but that is not how it works lol. The blade clearly leaves Shukaku's arm not by Madara's doing. Confirmation bias on your part is literally at play here.

Lmfao let’s not do that ‘separating statements from one quote thing,’ it just takes up space needlessly and frankly makes you look desperate to deter others from reading these comments. Which is more than like what you want to do lol.

@Bold: You’re trying to play coy again and it’s getting annoying. You don’t even know what you were implying anymore. But I’ll enlighten you again:

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Boruto didn't leave any area though. He was in the same position as when Naruto called for him so they could leave iirc. Also Momo didn't consider Boruto a threat but because he could sense him Momo then considered him one and proceeded to freeze him as well?

So like I said, Boruto WAS close to Naruto and Sasuke at first

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And then he left the area of their proximity before Momoshiki casted his time-stop jutsu:

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Exactly like I’d stated here:

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Because Boruto left that area before it was cast on them because he felt, unbeknownst to him at the time, Momoshiki’s presence. If he’d stayed there in that proximity with them then he would’ve been frozen also. THE REACH IS REAL WITH THESE GUYS Momoshiki didn’t care to freeze him after he’d left that area because 1.) The EXACT same way he didn’t stop Boruto with the Shadow Paralysis jutsu, Boruto wasn’t a threat because he assumed that Boruto wouldn’t even be able to detect him. That’s literally common knowledge if you read his statement, Rofl.

So your backpedaling stops here or you can call it another “misunderstanding” while not explaining how it is so. Lmfao

@Underlined: No, I’m telling you that you’re illiterate and are intentionally avoiding the fact that I’ve explained it to the point of impossible misinterpretation. In other words, you’re being willfully ignorant but let’s be honest, what other option do you have?

@BoldUnderlined: LMFAO no, simpleton, that Susano’o variant doesn’t have legs. :Sparks: Also, no Itachi was still controlling the Susano’o the same way Madara was still controlling the blade. The blade was detached from Susano’o and in Itachi’s case, the entire Susano’o was detached from Itachi. I mean, you tried though.

But I encourage you to show me proof that Madara’s Limbo clone grabbed the Susano’o blade, tossed it and maneuvered it. I’ll wait And I Also implore you to elaborate on the “bias” displayed here.

 

[Jinrou]

So like I said, Boruto WAS close to Naruto and Sasuke at first

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And then he left the area of their proximity before Momoshiki casted his time-stop jutsu:

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Exactly like I’d stated here:

So your backpedaling stops here or you can call it another “misunderstanding” while not explaining how it is so. Lmfao

Makes sense. I was arguing this part only from memory so i clearly couldn't remember Boruto moved. I was clearly wrong here.

@Underlined: No, I’m telling you that you’re illiterate and are intentionally avoiding the fact that I’ve explained it to the point of impossible misinterpretation. In other words, you’re being willfully ignorant but let’s be honest, what other option do you have?

But this part makes no sense. Hurling insults unfortunately does not provide me with the answer to the question i've been asking. So again, basically you're telling me Momo cast the freeze on the others while excluding Boruto initially without any reason and even worse, you're implying Momo somehow got scared of Boruto because he could sense him then proceeded to freeze him?

@BoldUnderlined: LMFAO no, simpleton, that Susano’o variant doesn’t have legs. :Sparks: Also, no Itachi was still controlling the Susano’o the same way Madara was still controlling the blade. The blade was detached from Susano’o and in Itachi’s case, the entire Susano’o was detached from Itachi. I mean, you tried though.

But I encourage you to show me proof that Madara’s Limbo clone grabbed the Susano’o blade, tossed it and maneuvered it. I’ll wait And I Also implore you to elaborate on the “bias” displayed here.

Oh so you know the Susanoo doesn't have legs? Then can you please explain how exactly it detached itself from Itachi? Itachi moved but the Susanoo decided it wasn't going to follow him? :lol

The bias is based on the fact you know how Susanoo works but so that you wouldn't be proven wrong you are arguing using a single scan that you are seeing in a manner that supports your claim. Itachi releases the Susanoo here [

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Not to mention this whole stuff started based on Madara stabbing Sasuke where we clearly see Sasuke trying to move but still you consider that a time stop.

 

[King Of Pop]

You do get how that’s absurd, right? Just because that was his “go-to” after being resurrected doesn’t mean that Limbo can, all of a sudden, ‘freeze’ people. The Bijuu got attacked just like RSM Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke got attacked by Limbo clones.

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So again, I truly don’t get how “smacking Bijuu” = “stopping Sasuke mid-air”

And just to reiterate, the Limbo clones are limited to form that the caster is at and in this case Madara was in his base form. Madara didn’t show any flying feats while non-SO6P so how is it that Sasuke was stopped in mid-air?

Limbo restrained him in mid air, not freeze. How he achieved it, not sure but like i said, considering he kept making use of it before and after the fact then its a good hint. He used it on the bijuu so we know limbo was active and didn't need to be activated again. Makes more sense to assume it's limbo than some other technique we have never seen him use or indicated

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Hey what if madara didn’t use a rinnegan tech at all to hold sasuke..... I was gonna make a thread cause it’s been discussed before but this one is already here and this is a hot topic in it so... bickering aside You might actually be right about the not using limbo part. On page 14 of 661, a few pages before madara stabs sauce, hashi stops him to give him a jutsu. He tells him it’s a binding jutsu to use on madara cause of the senjutsu madara stole from hashi. The key word there is binding, cause that looks exactly like what’s happened to sasuke there, it looks like he’s being binded, mainly cause he can still tremble. So I’m wondering if madara just used whatever sasuke was gonna use against him. Just a thought. Plus it would make more sense why we never see or hear about what hashi gave sasuke again.

 

[Animegoin]

Makes sense. I was arguing this part only from memory so i clearly couldn't remember Boruto moved. I was clearly wrong here.



But this part makes no sense. Hurling insults unfortunately does not provide me with the answer to the question i've been asking. So again, basically you're telling me Momo cast the freeze on the others while excluding Boruto initially without any reason and even worse, you're implying Momo somehow got scared of Boruto because he could sense him then proceeded to freeze him?



Oh so you know the Susanoo doesn't have legs? Then can you please explain how exactly it detached itself from Itachi? Itachi moved but the Susanoo decided it wasn't going to follow him? :lol

The bias is based on the fact you know how Susanoo works but so that you wouldn't be proven wrong you are arguing using a single scan that you are seeing in a manner that supports your claim. Itachi releases the Susanoo here [

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] but i'm pretty sure you're going to say the Susanoo was still separate from him at the point.

Not to mention this whole stuff started based on Madara stabbing Sasuke where we clearly see Sasuke trying to move but still you consider that a time stop.

-Lmfao No shit you’re wrong, even if you didn’t publicly acknowledge it, I knew you were so whatever.

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No, I’m telling you that you’re illiterate and are intentionally avoiding the fact that I’ve explained it to the point of impossible misinterpretation. In other words, you’re being willfully ignorant but let’s be honest, what other option do you have?

-Lmfao the butthurt is real within this one. Itachi clearly walked or jumped out of the Susano’o while maintaining its form. Similar to how Edo Madara was snatched out of his Susano’o by Gaara and it (his Susano’o) remained behind for a while but Madara decided to abandon it completely- after discovering he still had his Rinnegan. Do you need me to post scans? :Sparks:

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-LMFAO the irony! No, you’re arguing your point using only one scan, which was the one where you stated that Limbo clone removed the Susano’o sword from 1 tail’s palm, and tossed it. Also, Itachi did release Susano’o and they were on the outside of it, like I’d said. More specifically in-front of it

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The anime puts them ever farther away from the Susano’o than the manga does but in both cases, they’re all outside of the Susano’o. And the biased part you mentioned is sheer comedy.


-Reread the OP then reread your idiocy.

 

[Animegoin]

Limbo restrained him in mid air, not freeze. How he achieved it, not sure but like i said, considering he kept making use of it before and after the fact then its a good hint. He used it on the bijuu so we know limbo was active and didn't need to be activated again. Makes more sense to assume it's limbo than some other technique we have never seen him use or indicated

Nope, not strong enough but you’re free to think so if you want.

 

[Jinrou]

-Lmfao No shit you’re wrong, even if you didn’t publicly acknowledge it, I knew you were so whatever.

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I did just publicly admit i was wrong about that part though :lol

Again, hurling insults isn't just going to magically make me understand this.. whatever this is of yours.. but maybe you don't understand so i'll make it clearer.

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.

-Lmfao the butthurt is real within this one. Itachi clearly walked or jumped out of the Susano’o while maintaining its form. Similar to how Edo Madara was snatched out of his Susano’o by Gaara and it (his Susano’o) remained behind for a while but Madara decided to abandon it completely- after discovering he still had his Rinnegan. Do you need me to post scans? :Sparks:

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Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [

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]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?

-LMFAO the irony! No, you’re arguing your point using only one scan, which was the one where you stated that Limbo clone removed the Susano’o sword from 1 tail’s palm, and tossed it. Also, Itachi did release Susano’o and they were on the outside of it, like I’d said. More specifically in-front of it

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The anime puts them ever farther away from the Susano’o than the manga does but in both cases, they’re all outside of the Susano’o. And the biased part you mentioned is sheer comedy.

Oh no.. there's also the scans where we see the bijuu's bitch slapped by Limbo at their face level while Madara was in base.. I just didn't want the inconvenience of dealing with more of your headcanon's. Plus you keep saying they are all outside the Susanoo like Itachi needed to protect Naruto and Bee in his Susanoo in the first place. Confirmation bias bro :lol

Hey what if madara didn’t use a rinnegan tech at all to hold sasuke..... I was gonna make a thread cause it’s been discussed before but this one is already here and this is a hot topic in it so... bickering aside You might actually be right about the not using limbo part. On page 14 of 661, a few pages before madara stabs sauce, hashi stops him to give him a jutsu. He tells him it’s a binding jutsu to use on madara cause of the senjutsu madara stole from hashi. The key word there is binding, cause that looks exactly like what’s happened to sasuke there, it looks like he’s being binded, mainly cause he can still tremble. So I’m wondering if madara just used whatever sasuke was gonna use against him. Just a thought. Plus it would make more sense why we never see or hear about what hashi gave sasuke again.

Actually i've argued something like this before in the VS. I didn't think it was limbo as well but thought it was more gravity manipulation. Just like Deva was able to hover in place before the massive ST, i felt Madara did something to Sasuke's gravitational space to restrict him from moving. But the HC Uchiha fans were adamant it was limbo and i had to take their word for it since they'll definitely know more about Uchiha abilities than i do.

Your theory makes more sense as well.

 

[Animegoin]

I did just publicly admit i was wrong about that part though :lol

Again, hurling insults isn't just going to magically make me understand this.. whatever this is of yours.. but maybe you don't understand so i'll make it clearer.

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.



Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [

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]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?



Oh no.. there's also the scans where we see the bijuu's bitch slapped by Limbo at their face level while Madara was in base.. I just didn't want the inconvenience of dealing with more of your headcanon's. Plus you keep saying they are all outside the Susanoo like Itachi needed to protect Naruto and Bee in his Susanoo in the first place. Confirmation bias bro :lol

LMFAO so you verified your idiocy and conceded: Concession accepted. You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

 

[lndra]

I think Sasuke could counter it.

 

[Animegoin]

I think Sasuke could counter it.

If the technique was in fact cast by Momoshiki’s Rinnegan, then I believe Sasuke is able to counter it too.

 

[Jinrou]

LMFAO so you verified your idiocy and conceded: Concession accepted. You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

Weird.. it looks like you were only able to see the first line of my last reply. I'll just copy paste the rest of that post here again so you can answer the very simple questions two of which includes a simple 'yes' or 'no' :lol

Again, hurling insults isn't just going to magically make me understand this.. whatever this is of yours.. but maybe you don't understand so i'll make it clearer.

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.



Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [x]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?



Oh no.. there's also the scans where we see the bijuu's bitch slapped by Limbo at their face level while Madara was in base.. I just didn't want the inconvenience of dealing with more of your headcanon's. Plus you keep saying they are all outside the Susanoo like Itachi needed to protect Naruto and Bee in his Susanoo in the first place. Confirmation bias bro :lol

 

[Animegoin]

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Lmfao Concession has been accepted.

You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

 

[Jiren]

Its a good theory but I thinK Momoshiki time stop and the techinque Madara used were two different abilities. Madara more than likely used Limbo on Sasuke because it fits the description of Sasuke not being able to sense or see the invisible clone in Madaras dimension. I believe Momo used a rinnegan technique that allows him to trascend time and space but he's only limited to talking to others in an ethereal form.

What makes me believe that is Momo was in the process of dying so that enabled her to use such an ability. Due to Borutos heritage he was able to be sense and chosen to interact with Momo. If momo chosen too he could have interacted with Sasuke and gave him the seal.

 

[Animegoin]

Its a good theory but I thinK Momoshiki time stop and the techinque Madara used were two different abilities.Madara more than likely used Limbo on Sasuke because it fits the description of Sasuke not being able to sense or see the invisible clone in Madaras dimension. I believe Momo used a rinnegan technique that allows him to trascend time and space but he's only limited to talking to others in an ethereal form.

What makes me believe that is Momo was in the process of dying so that enabled her to use such an ability. Due to Borutos heritage he was able to be sense and chosen to interact with Momo. If momo chosen too he could have interacted with Sasuke and gave him the seal.

@Bold: Thanks and they, more than likely, are two different abilities...but they could also be the same technique with stricter restrictions- Kind of like how Kamui can be used to make a specific part of the body intangible or to make the entire body intangible; I was more-so comparing Boruto’s frozen state to EMS Sasuke’s frozen state in Madara’s scenario and inferring that Momoshiki’s time-stop (that was cast on Naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke) is the “full powered” variant of what Madara used and what Momoshiki used on Boruto.

@Underlined: It definitely wasn’t Limbo. I explained how it wasn’t in this thread’s comment section to the others that commented the same thing.

@BoldUnderlined: That’s a good theory and considering how Rinnegan bearers are already practically deity, it would make sense. But this begs the question, are you comparing it to Hagoromo’s - Sasuke/Naruto near death conversation, Hagoromo’s manifesting before the previous Hokage while IT was cast, or deceased Obito talking to Kakashi? Hell, tbh even Dan Katō using that Ghost jutsu to save and talk to Tsunade is even similar, huh? Yeah, I definitely see this theory coming together; Nice work

@Everything else: I noticed you referred to Momoshiki using “her” as the defining pronoun. You think Momoshiki’s a girl? :WAT:

But yes, aside from Momoshiki being a female, I can’t find anything I disagree with here.

 

[Jinrou]

Lmfao Concession has been accepted.

You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

Simple yes or no questions man lol

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.



Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [x]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?

How and why is it you can type all that irrelevant stuff but refuse to type three or two letter words? :lol

 

[Animegoin]

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Seriously, stop spamming the thread.

 

[Jinrou]

Seriously, stop spamming the thread.

What? Lmao. I've been asking you the same questions since the previous page but you've continually deflected and thrown insults but i'm the one spamming? :lol

Anyway like i've been saying, its a simple yes or no question that i need your answers on to verify stuff about the topic being discussed in the thread.

So,

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.



Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [x]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?

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[Animegoin]

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Lmfao the fact that you’re too daft to grasp even the simplest and most condense explanations is your problem. I’m not obligated to quell any and all doubts you have or had because you are literally a scatter-brained failure that exposed your idiocy ceaselessly throughout these last few pages and just like InfiniteMugen, your butthurt ass has resorting to trolling and spamming.

Concession has been accepted.

The best You two could hope to accomplish here is the continuation of kissing each other’s asses and liking one another’s comments

You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

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@Everyone else: These guys are trying bury their stupidity by spamming and trolling. Read through these comments and witness the failures of these guys before it’s gone. Especially Jinrou, he failed like no other.

 

[Animegoin]

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Lmfao the fact that you’re too daft to grasp even the simplest and most condense explanations is your problem. I’m not obligated to quell any and all doubts you have or had because you are literally a scatter-brained failure that exposed your idiocy ceaselessly throughout these last few pages and just like InfiniteMugen, your butthurt ass has resorting to trolling and spamming.

Concession has been accepted.

The best You two could hope to accomplish here is the continuation of kissing each other’s asses and liking one another’s comments

You’re free to continue playing the bewildered fool all you need to but you’ll never be able to redeem yourself though.

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@Everyone else: These guys are trying bury their stupidity by spamming and trolling. Read through these comments and witness the failures of these guys before it’s gone. Especially Jinrou, he failed like no other.

 

[Jinrou]

Concession has been authenticated and accepted since yesterday morning therefore, I’ll let you have the last comment. :lol

Enjoy not being able to redeem yourself.

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Last comment? Redeem myself? Please.. I was only trying to get a legit answer from you bro.

You're basically telling me Momo cast the freeze on others while excluding Boruto for what reason? The Kages and Sasuke were behind Boruto who was standing in between them and Momo so it isn't a range issue. I therefore see no other reason but according to you Momo did that because he wasn't a threat but we see Momo later freezes his movements as well so does that mean in your opinion, Boruto became a threat to Momo just because he could sense him? A simple yes or no question bro.

This equals Animegoin believes Momoshiki was scared of Boruto simply because he could sense him.

Again makes zero sense. The event prior to that was the trio being sucked into Chibaku Tensei and we clearly see Itachi in his Susanoo as he is also hoisted up. [x]. After they destroy the orb, they land and he pierces Nagato with Totsuka. You're saying between destroying CT and landing, Itachi simply hopped out of his Susanoo just for the heck of it?

While this equals Animegoin holds the opinion Itachi stepped out from his Susanoo for absolutely no reason.

Both absolutely make zero sense and is why i kept asking for a simple yes or no. I'll be taking it that your answers to them are yes due to your deflecting and refusing to answer.. which is a shame tbh.