Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT

[Darth AniCetuS]

Kishimoto states Zetsu is kaguya will knows indra and asura. Dont go against manga. Its like I can deconstruct every statement said in manga into my own will.



Youre missing point. Sasuke states blatantly he used both eyes to create SusanoO. Rinnegan Tomoe infused SusanoO deterred the light.

Where exactly?

 

[Michael]

Show me scan of Naruto being effected by IT, i'll wait.

 

[davidou]

Kishimoto states Zetsu is kaguya will knows indra and asura.

Yeah, Zetsu knows Ashura, and?
I never said the contrary...

Its like I can deconstruct every statement said in manga into my own will.

Yes, you can do that, really amazing, but that doesn' t reply to my points, so you are still losing, even with that amazing skill, you should learn to use it accurately.

 

[Nick01]

The author's intent should be seen in scenes like this. The author had Sasuke stop Naruto from going outside. Otherwise there was no point to it.

Or it can be seen as Sasuke being cautious. The world was at stake, no sense in risking being caught by IT.

I don't understand why you guys feel so insecure when Sasuke can resist IT but Naruto can't. It wouldn't matter in Sasuke's case anyway because all IT users would wreck him even if he manages to resist IT and be the last man standing.

That has nothing to do with it.

This is about the lack of proof that Naruto isn't immune nor can resist IT. All wishful thinking.

Bringing Sakura into this when this thread is wholly about Naruto and IT-only is not derailing/diverting because you cant give a straight answer to my OP?

What are you talking about? XD

I addressed the OP clearly in my first post. Also the amount of nonsense you spew is why I said you shouldn't be taken seriously.(The "Sakura = Naruto/Sasuke" bit)

There is no panel which proves superiority of naruto above sakura,

There are a bunch. Actually the full manga supports Naruto being superior.

whereas theres 6 panels(including boruto) in minimum to prove latter.

Absolutely nothing compared to the number of panels proving your ridiculous statement wrong.

I bet youd use the same excuses youre using here if I create a thread where judging feats on feats is priority.

I don't use excuses, at least not to the extent of you guys.
Also why should I take the feats you use seriously when you're misinterpreting them? Learn how to use feats correctly.

Do you even know what a troll means?

There are a few meanings to that word. In this case(being the Internet), you fit it's meaning.

You state not to quote you with trollish posts yet your post is all what a troll stands for.


- Diverging from question.
- bringing other characters to somehow start a fanwar.
- Using excuses to override facts.
- Not using manga to prove your part.

Etc cera cera.

Lmao. Other way around buddy.

By the way if you didnt want OP of thread quoting you in first place stop posting in my thread for starters. Make your own fangroup discussion and youll enjoy a peaceful discussion where no one challenges your little beliefs.

This is a public thread which invites differing inputs from other individuals. Also you can quote me all you want, just make sure that it's sensible and not full of trollish content.

Yup, if you're a living being you need Rinnegan.
IT worked on animals, because in general genjutsu works on them, I mean for example sharingan genjutsu works on summons does it not?
Edo's are undead
Obito would have been caught, if not for BZ and BZ is as real living being as Edo's are. He's just a separated part of Kaguya aka her will that can speak and have some shapeshifting abilities, nothing more.

Frog Song worked on one of the pains and so by extension so should IT, meaning The Edo's should've been caught like everyone else. Let's also not forget the times Edo Itachi was subjected to Genjutsu. There is no explanation as to why BZ wasn't affected. The Edo's, BZ and Obtio all should've been caught if only the Rinnegan can counter IT.


On a side note : Why are some people so desperately bent on this topic literally needing it to be so Naruto isn't immune nor can resist IT like their lives depend on it. If only for their sake, such proof existed. :lol

 

[SeveN797]

Frog Song worked on one of the pains and so by extension so should IT, meaning The Edo's should've been caught like everyone else. Let's also not forget the times Edo Itachi was subjected to Genjutsu. There is no explanation as to why BZ wasn't affected. The Edo's, BZ and Obtio all should've been caught if only the Rinnegan can counter IT.

IT =/= any other genjutsu. IT doesn't just cast genjutsu on you, it wants to convert the living to White zetsu. Edo Tensei, as they are dead, are useless to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, as are pre-existing White Zetsu. You're forgetting BZ isn't a real living being(which IT aims for and want to convert) but just a physical manifestation of Kaguya's will, thus him being immune can't be used as an argument to disprove anything.
BZ and Obito were 1 being, because BZ was in control of his body and consciousness thus saving him from IT.
Let's also not forget that Guruguru who also control consciousness and body, unwrapped Yamato and made him susceptible to Infinite Tsukuyomi.

On a side note : Why are some people so desperately bent on this topic literally needing it to be so Naruto isn't immune nor can resist IT like their lives depend on it. If only for their sake, such proof existed. :lol

You got it opposite my friend, we're just following what manga has told us. On the other side, some people can't accept it , and are desperately trying to prove Naruto's immunity.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Show me scan of Naruto being effected by IT, i'll wait.

Sasuke saved him, remember?

Show me a scan where it says Naruto is above sakura... see how dumb your logic is?

 

[Nick01]

IT =/= any other genjutsu. IT doesn't just cast genjutsu on you, it wants to convert the living to White zetsu. Edo Tensei, as they are dead, are useless to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, as are pre-existing White Zetsu. You're forgetting BZ isn't a real living being(which IT aims for and want to convert) but just a physical manifestation of Kaguya's will, thus him being immune can't be used as an argument to disprove anything.
BZ and Obito were 1 being, because BZ was in control of his body and consciousness thus saving him from IT.
Let's also not forget that Guruguru who also control consciousness and body, unwrapped Yamato and made him susceptible to Infinite Tsukuyomi.

First and foremost it traps others in a Genjutsu, so at the very least the Edo's should've been under it. After IT is cast, the user uses "God: Nativity of a World of Trees", which manipulates the roots of the Divine Tree to trap those affected by IT. So there's basically 2 techniques being used. First IT and then God: Nativity of a World of Trees.

You got it opposite my friend, we're just following what manga has told us.

As are we.

On the other side, some people can't accept it , and are desperately trying to prove Naruto's immunity.

No one can prove that Naruto is/isn't immune nor can/can't resist IT in some way. No matter how hard they try, they just can't.

 

[Uverdore9]

Where exactly?

Kishimoto: Naruto if you go outside while light is on youll be caught in his genjutsu. We're only safe because of this SusanOO Ive created with my eyes.

Yeah, Zetsu knows Ashura, and?
I never said the contrary..

He knows about IT and knows RSM yet didnt think it will be of help. RSM loses against IT in his opinion.

Yes, you can do that, really amazing, but that doesn' t reply to my points, so you are still losing, even with that amazing skill, you should learn to use it accurately.

Okay? Then itachi is invincible without yata snd totsuka. Prove he isnt. You love changing context so prove he isnt.

What are you talking about? XD

I addressed the OP clearly in my first post. Also the amount of nonsense you spew is why I said you shouldn't be taken seriously.(The "Sakura = Naruto/Sasuke" bit

Yet everyone is against you while so many logical ones are agreeing to OP?

There are a bunch. Actually the full manga supports Naruto being superior.

No single scan supports your theory.

Absolutely nothing compared to the number of panels proving your ridiculous statement wrong

Absolutely zero panels to prove naruto>>sakura.

I don't use excuses, at least not to the extent of you guys.
Also why should I take the feats you use seriously when you're misinterpreting them? Learn how to use feats correctly.

Why should I take your word over Kishimoto's? I know how to use feats better than yourself which is why I dont say utter BS like Naruto base fending off Momoshiki when latter held back because he wants his chakra for remaking chakra fruit. The irony. Use logic and feats appriopriately.

There are a few meanings to that word. In this case(being the Internet), you fit it's meaning.

You should say that to mirror if you have time.

Lmao. Other way around buddy.

Nothing you say is fact when you cant prove naruto is immune. Yet you excuse the fact he hasnt been caught in it so hes immune. The irony of this fanbase is ironical. Itachi is immune to Gravity realm, Kamui etc because tobi and pain never attack leaf in his lifetime. How about that? Ill keep using this logic.

This is a public thread which invites differing inputs from other individuals. Also you can quote me all you want, just make sure that it's sensible and not full of trollish content.

When 70% agree with me? Even Glad Of War@ a naruto fan agrees with me? Ok. Try be rational for once.

Frog Song worked on one of the pains and so by extension so should IT, meaning The Edo's should've been caught like everyone else. Let's also not forget the times Edo Itachi was subjected to Genjutsu. There is no explanation as to why BZ wasn't affected. The Edo's, BZ and Obtio all should've been caught if only the Rinnegan can counter IT.

Pain has blood. Theyve nerves. The only thing they lack is pain. Hence frog song which traps your brain in other universe worked - Databook.

On a side note : Why are some people so desperately bent on this topic literally needing it to be so Naruto isn't immune nor can resist IT like their lives depend on it. If only for their sake, such proof existed. :lol

Because you cant accept IT works on naruto when everything states it works.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Kishimoto: Naruto if you go outside while light is on youll be caught in his genjutsu. We're only safe because of this SusanOO Ive created with my eyes.

Scans please.

 

[Uverdore9]

Scans please.

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Ramped up SusanoO means Eye power enhanced. In other translations it say what I said it says. Madara's words.

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None can hide from it and none refers to whatever exists in earth. Did you know that Afterworld is connected to earth only with chakra? Afterworld is not a part of Earth's physicality? - Kishimoto's words. Edo arent affected because of said reason. SusanoO is a ocular technique and Rinnegan is called a 'God' in Databook. Gods dont exist in earth whichs why hagoromo can transcend between earth and afterlife, hes called god. SusanoO combined with Rinnegan, a ethereal eye, deterred IT. Not to mention its a new eye, which didnt exist in Indras time. The fact Rinnegan's ethereal is because its eye wielded by a human like Rikudou whose chakra is necessary to sprout it, said human transcends life and death.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

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Ramped up SusanoO means Eye power enhanced. In other translations it say what I said it says. Madara's words.

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None can hide from it and none refers to whatever exists in earth. Did you know that Afterworld is connected to earth only with chakra? Afterworld is not a part of Earth's physicality? - Kishimoto's words. Edo arent affected because of said reason. SusanoO is a ocular technique and Rinnegan is called a 'God' in Databook. Gods dont exist in earth whichs why hagoromo can transcend between earth and afterlife, hes called god. SusanoO combined with Rinnegan, a ethereal eye, deterred IT. Not to mention its a new eye, which didnt exist in Indras time. The fact Rinnegan's ethereal is because its eye wielded by a human like Rikudou whose chakra is necessary to sprout it, said human transcends life and death.

Huh...:wut:

All he said is that ramped up his susanoo implying that he used his rinnegan's power to make it able to repel IT's light.

So where does it say he used both his eyes to create the susanoo as you claimed earlier?

Please provide actual scans this time without any meaningless speculations.

 

[Uverdore9]

Huh...:wut:

All he said is that ramped up his susanoo implying that he used his rinnegan's power to make it able to repel IT's light.

So where does it say he used both his eyes to create the susanoo as you claimed earlier?

Please provide actual scans this time without any meaningless speculations.

In other translations he said eyes. So your logic is Kakashi with PS is immune? Despite its blatantly stated Sasuke's Rinnegan specifically can only deter IT?

 

[salamander uchiha]

In other translations he said eyes. So your logic is Kakashi with PS is immune? Despite its blatantly stated Sasuke's Rinnegan specifically can only deter IT?

Are you trying to reason with analcetsus? There's not much in the cranium of his to begin with.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

In other translations he said eyes. So your logic is Kakashi with PS is immune? Despite its blatantly stated Sasuke's Rinnegan specifically can only deter IT?

If Viz is there the rest doesn't matter and thus your claims are invalid.

@Bold I never even brought up Kakashi lol.

 

[SeveN797]

First and foremost it traps others in a Genjutsu, so at the very least the Edo's should've been under it. After IT is cast, the user uses "God: Nativity of a World of Trees", which manipulates the roots of the Divine Tree to trap those affected by IT. So there's basically 2 techniques being used. First IT and then God: Nativity of a World of Trees.

Yes, IT traps others in a Genjutsu, but for a specific reason.
These 2 techniques are meant to be used together. You're forgetting the fact that IT doesn't cast ordinary genjutsu, that for example causes pain to you. Instead it's enslaving you in a dream world where your deepest desires are fulfilled, and it's specifically keeping you there as long as it must, till the god tree fully convert you.

If the second part - being wrapped by the God Tree's roots wouldn't work on Edo's as they're undead, then there's no reason for IT to target them and put them in genjutsu.

 

[FleeOnSight]

He’s immune

 

[Uverdore9]

If Viz is there the rest doesn't matter and thus your claims are invalid.

@Bold I never even brought up Kakashi lol.

Apply your logic to everything else not just naruto if youre arguing with it even. Is Kakashi with PS immune to Kaguya IT.

If thats so Kakashi is a greater SusanoO user than Indra.

 

[davidou]

Kishimoto: Naruto if you go outside while light is on youll be caught in his genjutsu. We're only safe because of this SusanOO Ive created with my eyes.


He knows about IT and knows RSM yet didnt think it will be of help. RSM loses against IT in his opinion.




Okay? Then itachi is invincible without yata snd totsuka. Prove he isnt. You love changing context so prove he isnt.

It' s Sasuke making assumptions.

In his opinion, right?That means it would be an assumtion made by Zetsu, and nothing in the manga shows that he made that assumption, so stop with your fanfics.

I have the proof that Itachi isn' t invincible even with Yata and Totsuka, he is dead.

It' s too easy to destroy everything you say.

 

[Uverdore9]

It' s Sasuke making assumptions.

In his opinion, right?That means it would be an assumtion made by Zetsu, and nothing in the manga shows that he made that assumption, so stop with your fanfics.

I have the proof that Itachi isn' t invincible even with Yata and Totsuka, he is dead.

It' s too easy to destroy everything you say.

You dont have proof itachi is unbeatable in battle without Yata's Reflector and Totsuka's Sword. Prove it.

While you're at it, prove How Itachi is not immune to Pains Jutsu and Kamui and every single thing in Obito's arsenal. Latter clearly is head of Akatsuki and he clearly didnt attack Konoha during Itachi lifetime. Now go on and prove it.

 

[davidou]

You dont have proof itachi is unbeatable in battle without Yata's Reflector and Totsuka's Sword. Prove it.

While you're at it, prove How Itachi is not immune to Pains Jutsu and Kamui and every single thing in Obito's arsenal. Latter clearly is head of Akatsuki and he clearly didnt attack Konoha during Itachi lifetime. Now go on and prove it.

Ah , I see, you had to change your sentence since I destroyed your point.But I'm going to destroy your point again.

Here is the difference between someone smart and you, smart guys will admit that there are no proofs that Itachi is unbeatable, so they won' t say he is unbeatable.It is as simple as that, no proof=no claim.
You, who seems not as smart as those guys, will claim something even without any proof, things like "Naruto isn' t immune to IT".
Everything is possible until proven impossible, and the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence, I'll let you think over these truthes.Maybe you' ll understand that this proves Naruto can be immune to IT.