Strongest opponent Hinita Uzumaki can beat?

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Lmao you’ve never seen me get destroyed.

How many L’s do you want today? Lmao I don’t know why Hinata fans support any of the shit you post. Your a clear troll with no facts other then video games and shit posting.
 

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I'm glad we are all in agreement that Hinata Uzumaki, beats Sakura "The Civilian" Haruno.
That is obvious to the logical.

Only 7 people believe that Sakura loses to Hinata.
lol Not really. Only Sakura fans as well as quite a few notable trolls believe Sakura actually takes this.

Anyway Sakura gets swat by chunin housewife like a fly.
I see.

Nice to know admitting Hanabi whooped that ass is bashing Hinata.
How can you admit to something that didn't happen? Also Hinabae said "using", meaning for example, Vulpini will wank the hell out of Hanabi while downplaying Hinata. "Using". :hint:

OT : Hinata vs Sakura is a very bad matchup for Sakura.

CQC? Hinata outclasses.

Long Range? Air Palm one shots.

Unless Sakura summons Katsuyu right out the bat, she takes the L. Clearly.

Sakura beating Hinata is wishful thinking at best.

Hinata>>>>>Sakura.

You have the right to deny, but that won't change the reality of things.
 

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You genuinely need to calm down.

Still, it's a crying shame for all pompous and arrogance you show, you still can't show feats. I will concede Sakura > Hinata since it makes you feel good about yourself, but the truth remains the opposite. :gn:

Stop projecting sis... your the one who needs to calm down “genuinely”, your the one who’s arrogant, your pompous and you avoid the facts in any way you can. Even if it means you be willfully ignorant, I don’t have to post a feat when I can post a fact dear (that’s what makes you arrogant and pompous). Your not above facts nor am I required to edify them for you when you have your own brain, eyes and hands to type with. Me saying Sakura>Hinata doesn’t make me feel anything at all becuase a clear cut fact is nothing to get a rise out of it, Sakura is stronger then Hinata and it’s not just a consensus on this forum but any one you would like to survey including reddit. Stats says she’s better, feats says she better, her portrayal as ninja is stronger and I could go on.... only you in about 6-7 others think otherwise.
 

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Stop projecting sis... your the one who needs to calm down “genuinely”, your the one who’s arrogant, your pompous and you avoid the facts in any way you can. Even if it means you be willfully ignorant, I don’t have to post a feat when I can post a fact dear (that’s what makes you arrogant and pompous). Your not above facts nor am I required to edify them for you when you have your own brain, eyes and hands to type with. Me saying Sakura>Hinata doesn’t make me feel anything at all becuase a clear cut fact is nothing to get a rise out of it, Sakura is stronger then Hinata and it’s not just a consensus on this forum but any one you would like to survey including reddit. Stats says she’s better, feats says she better, her portrayal as ninja is stronger and I could go on.... only you in about 6-7 others think otherwise.

All you've been doing this whole time is arguing with hypothetical "coulda woulda shoulda"s when everything you claim goes against what canon shows.

-You say Sakura is superior to Tsunade in medical ninjutsu without any proof, even when Shikamaru's case and 699 show otherwise.

-You say Sakura has stronger CES than Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade's the one desrtroying a Susano'O.

-You say Sakura has durability on par/passing Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade tanked SusanoO blades while Cheeks of Steel solo Sakura.

-You say Sakura blitzed Shin's MS, when you have no proof his downgraded Sharingan has precognition, much like it lacks Susano'O.

-You say Sakura is a better combatant than Tsunade with no proof, and while Tsunade is fighting Madara, Sakura is getting saved from Juubi Clones.


Meanwhile I have nothing but proof after proof that you just ignore.


-I present Sakura and Hinata's reflexes during the war showing TWO CASES of Hinata being superior. What do you do? Fall back on an old databook

-I present facts of how Hinata's agility and speed are superior as shown in The Last, close to Naruto's, but lower, feats Sakura lacks. What do you do? Not address them.

-I present the fact that it was 3 Hyugas assigned to guard Naruto, the trump card of the army, and not Sakura or anyone else. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Sakura was on the side line during the war, unlike competent combatants like Hinata and even other medics like Hana/Ino. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Hinata's reflexes, agility, and CQC skills are superior, which is what the fight will largely hinge on. What do you do? Bring up intellect, medical feats, and other unrelated tangents.

-I show how sneak attacks are meaningless in cases like Shikamary V Hidan and Bolt V Momoshiki. What do you do? In sheer desperation, insist that Sakura's case is somehow different.
 
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All you've been doing this whole time is arguing with hypothetical "coulda woulda shoulda"s when everything you claim goes against what canon shows.

-You say Sakura is superior to Tsunade in medical ninjutsu without any proof, even when Shikamaru's case and 699 show otherwise.

-You say Sakura has stronger CES than Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade's the one desrtroying a Susano'O.

-You say Sakura has durability on par/passing Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade tanked SusanoO blades while Cheeks of Steel solo Sakura.

-You say Sakura blitzed Shin's MS, when you have no proof his downgraded Sharingan has precognition, much like it lacks Susano'O.

-You say Sakura is a better combatant than Tsunade with no proof, and while Tsunade is fighting Madara, Sakura is getting saved from Juubi Clones.


Meanwhile I have nothing but proof after proof that you just ignore.


-I present Sakura and Hinata's reflexes during the war showing TWO CASES of Hinata being superior. What do you do? Fall back on an old databook

-I present facts of how Hinata's agility and speed are superior as shown in The Last, close to Naruto's, but lower feats Sakura lacks. What do you do? Not address them.

-I present the fact that it was 3 Hyugas assigned to guard Naruto, the trump card of the army, and not Sakura or anyone else. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Sakura was on the side line during the war, unlike competent combatants like Hinata and even other medics like Hana/Ino. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Hinata's reflexes, agility, and CQC skills are superior, which is what the fight will largely hinge on. What do you do? Bring up intellect, medical feats, and other unrelated tangents.

-I show how sneak attacks are meaningless in cases like Shikamary V Hidan and Bolt V Momoshiki. What do you do? In sheer desperation, insist that Sakura's case is somehow different.
Damn.. Just damn..
 

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Damn.. Just damn..
Meh, it's the truth. Don't know if you've read any of the posts here, but literally all Melanin has been doing this whole time is speaking in vague hypotheticals to argue for Sakura while ignoring evidence from me where I downright point out specific moments and examples from chapters for Hinata's case. It's honestly so overwhelming arguing with someone like that :mad:_@::mad:_@::mad:_@:
 

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Meh, it's the truth. Don't know if you've read any of the posts here, but literally all Melanin has been doing this whole time is speaking in vague hypotheticals to argue for Sakura while ignoring evidence from me where I downright point outspecific moments and examples from chapters for Hinata's case. It's honestly so overwhelming arguing with someone like that :mad:_@::mad:_@::mad:_@:
I've been following it.

@bold

Isn't it always like that?

Usually I stop responding after writting what i have to write and just leave threads that are flooded by Sakura worshippers. You just can't knock sense into them. 90% of claims regarding Sakura feats are vague and based on hypothesis.
 

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All you've been doing this whole time is arguing with hypothetical "coulda woulda shoulda"s when everything you claim goes against what canon shows.

-You say Sakura is superior to Tsunade in medical ninjutsu without any proof, even when Shikamaru's case and 699 show otherwise.

-You say Sakura has stronger CES than Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade's the one desrtroying a Susano'O.

-You say Sakura has durability on par/passing Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade tanked SusanoO blades while Cheeks of Steel solo Sakura.

-You say Sakura blitzed Shin's MS, when you have no proof his downgraded Sharingan has precognition, much like it lacks Susano'O.

-You say Sakura is a better combatant than Tsunade with no proof, and while Tsunade is fighting Madara, Sakura is getting saved from Juubi Clones.


Meanwhile I have nothing but proof after proof that you just ignore.


-I present Sakura and Hinata's reflexes during the war showing TWO CASES of Hinata being superior. What do you do? Fall back on an old databook

-I present facts of how Hinata's agility and speed are superior as shown in The Last, close to Naruto's, but lower, feats Sakura lacks. What do you do? Not address them.

-I present the fact that it was 3 Hyugas assigned to guard Naruto, the trump card of the army, and not Sakura or anyone else. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Sakura was on the side line during the war, unlike competent combatants like Hinata and even other medics like Hana/Ino. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Hinata's reflexes, agility, and CQC skills are superior, which is what the fight will largely hinge on. What do you do? Bring up intellect, medical feats, and other unrelated tangents.

-I show how sneak attacks are meaningless in cases like Shikamary V Hidan and Bolt V Momoshiki. What do you do? In sheer desperation, insist that Sakura's case is somehow different.
GG :lmao:
 

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lol Yeah, I guess. I was just hoping it would be different this time since Melanin isn't really as ... "off" as other Sakura fans.
She is not as "off" but she and Femme were the ones that started the irrational pro Sakura movement here in NB. With Femme being a bit absent, Melanin actually changed but deep down inside she is still one of the leaders of the cult baptized as Sakuranism.

It is strange really because a lot of times she posts nice replies and makes sense but when it comes to Sakura.. argh..
 
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Damn.. Just damn..

All you've been doing this whole time is arguing with hypothetical "coulda woulda shoulda"s when everything you claim goes against what canon shows.



Is this not cannon?

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Or how about this? Not cannon either huh?

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“Strongest Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."

Just like you never said this huh?

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I’ve posted nothing but facts and you duck them every time and the faps liking your post are doing the same.




-You say Sakura is superior to Tsunade in medical ninjutsu without any proof, even when Shikamaru's case and 699 show otherwise.
The just countered this but I’ll do it again.

“Sakura struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade did it with one touch.”
Well once again I need to educate some people, some fans of certain, weaker characters. There is this notion which circulated around the fandom back in 2013-2014 and which has reared its ugly head once more in 2017. The claim is that Sakura in the war is an inferior medic to Tsunade as allegedly she struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade effortlessly healed him with one touch. This, like most of what circulates around this fandom, is wrong.

As shown in the panels below Shikamaru lost most, if not all of his chakra and he was dying. Other shinobi experienced this and died already and he was almost there.

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Sakura alludes to his impending death in the above panel as she reached Shikamaru to start the healing process.



Now 2 chapter later we see Sakura healing Shikamaru who is now covered in a chakra cloak courtesy Naruto. She’s healing him while Naruto’s chakra cloak is doing the same.

In summary Sakura is healing dying Shikamaru while Naruto has is supporting this with his cloak’s healing and support abilities.

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Fast forward a bit and the process is successful. Thanks to Naruto’s chakra cloak is was able to rally through. Of course Sakura healed his body as well as pointed out by Ino, another medical ninja.

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Shikamaru is saved. He is out of danger and is no longer at death’s door. Ino thanks Sakura and Naruto while Sakura herself thanks Naruto for his help.



Now let’s get to the funny part. After Shikamaru survives and is out of danger, he is still weak. Tsunade enters the fray and touches him, expediting the healing or giving him chakra, it’s not 100% clear. Let’s assume she healed him further. As shown below he was just saved and Tsunade came and healed him further.

How does this prove that Tsunade succeeded where Sakura failed?

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As seen above Shikamaru was dying and was saved by Sakura and Naruto’s combined efforts. After he was saved but still weak and hurt Tsunade came and touched him which healed him; gave him a chakra boost.

This is not the same thing. The logic behind the ridiculous claim is that Sakura failed and Tsunade healed him but that would mean that he died. Unless he was inflicted again after Sakura + Naruto’s healing Tsunade DID NOT do the same thing.

Sakura and Naruto saved him from dying. After he was saved Tsunade came in and healed him further.

>>>>The false claim implies that Sakura couldn’t give him chakra or heal him after Naruto and herself saved him from dying/immediate danger. She has chakra and can heal so that’s wrong.

>>>>It also implies that Tsunade was also healing a dying Shikamaru when it was shown that he was saved and then she came in after and healed him further.

How does any of that make any sense?

Sakura is so far behind Tsunade that while she struggled and needed Naruto’s help Tsunade effortlessly did the same thing with one hand and no effort?

Shikamaru was dying so Naruto and Sakura saved him but then he was dying again so Tsunade came and did it better with on hand?

I would also like to point out that after he was saved he got up and talked while Sakura paused so had he needed more chakra or healing, she didn’t get the chance to follow up with the supplementary treatments then Tsunade came in and did it for her. It proves nothing other than Tsunade helped her out and Kishi allowed Shikamaru to talk a bit before he was completely fine.

It’s even stated in databook 4 that Tsunade thought of Sakura as an equal and someone who could heal at her side right after the Shikamaru incident, further debunking the shit being said by you.

DATABOOK 4:


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Tsunade to Sakura: “Well done…”


Tsunade’s thoughts: “You won’t have to settle for your rank. Let us rejoice upon your development and stand on the front lines side by side…!!”

Try Again!



-You say Sakura has stronger CES than Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade's the one desrtroying a Susano'O.
Post the scan of Tsunade doing this.

I've yet to see Tsunades chakra enhance strength omit and destroy it's target without touching it.

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Sakura Damaged Kaguya with there bare fist and cracked her horn off.

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Something Naruto couldn't even do.

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-You say Sakura has durability on par/passing Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade tanked SusanoO blades while Cheeks of Steel solo Sakura.
Lie when and where did I say that? Point it out please.

Truth I said that Sakura had the same healing ability Tsunade used to tank the SusanoO blades.

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-You say Sakura blitzed Shin's MS, when you have no proof his downgraded Sharingan has precognition, much like it lacks Susano'O.
1. Prove his eyes are a down grade.

2. Prove he doesn't have precog.

3. Who even said he had precog?

4. I didn't say Shin had precog, I said his eyes should have perceived her movements being that Sakura charged directly at him, he was able to perceive and react to Sasukes Katon from behind right?

Shin's eyes on his head reacted to Sasuke's Fire Attack from the back though.

Here's the page showing Shin's Eyes on his head reacting to Sasuke's attack..

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What you need to pay attention too.

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Naruto's Observation.

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So why couldn't he pick up sakura chargining him in his direct line of sight?


-You say Sakura is a better combatant than Tsunade with no proof, and while Tsunade is fighting Madara, Sakura is getting saved from Juubi Clones.
Lie: I never said Sakura was a better combatant, I said she surpassed Tsunade.

Truth: Sakura reacted to the juubi clone and had the means to defend herself, as she reacted then evaded Kaguya's chakra hand which was much faster and what you are ignoring.

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Naruto & Sasuke took out the clone for her because they were working as a team and theme of the chapter was having each others backs or covering each others back, simple nuance.


-I present Sakura and Hinata's reflexes during the war showing TWO CASES of Hinata being superior. What do you do? Fall back on an old databook
And I countered both, after providing you with stats to counter a separate argument.

Stop misconstruing things too, I said Sakura was superior to Hinata before the war started. You Said she wasn't and I provided you their cannon or official stats before the war started.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


Again I countered your feats with a feats with Sakura in addition too proving that Sakura had higher stamina, speed and strength based on their factual stats.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


It's clear who's superior and it's not Hinata.


-I present facts of how Hinata's agility and speed are superior as shown in The Last, close to Naruto's, but lower, feats Sakura lacks. What do you do? Not address them.
Hinata has no such feats, post them.

And before you got onto post hint fighting puppets, do remember Sakura was taking Human Puppets in early part two that never scraped her or touched her unlike the puppets Hinata fought.


-I present the fact that it was 3 Hyugas assigned to guard Naruto, the trump card of the army, and not Sakura or anyone else. What do you do? Not address it.
Lie: I did address it as irrelevant and in no way proves that she stronger then Sakua, it simply means she was one out of many Hyuga to do what she was assigned to do. Lmao but do you wanna play?


>In the beginning of Part 2 Sakura (her team) was sent to deal with S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.

>Neji was sent to back up Sakura (her team) against S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.


Hinata was one of many Hyuga's charged with protecting Naruto, she wasn't personally mandatied like Sakura was to take on (Akatsuki).

Hinata is once again inferior going by your logic.



-I present the fact that Sakura was on the side line during the war, unlike competent combatants like Hinata and even other medics like Hana/Ino. What do you do? Not address it.
Addressed!

Yes Sakura was sidelined for the majority of the war but once she wasn't (produced her seal) she wasn't sidelined and her one feat of taking out a battle field of Juubi clones overshadowed everything Hinata/Ino did. How many opponents did Hinata or Hinata take out compared to Sakura in this one scan?

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Also, Hinata isn't a medical ninja (only in filler) unless you can find the scan of her using mystical palm.

which you can't.


-I present the fact that Hinata's reflexes, agility, and CQC skills are superior, which is what the fight will largely hinge on. What do you do? Bring up intellect, medical feats, and other unrelated tangents.
More Lies..

You posted those feats and I posted Sakura's.

Never have I once contrasted Sakura's intellect or medical ninjutsu to a feat of Hinatas, stop making shit up.

Sakura's Intellect & Regenration is one of many reasons Hinata is outclassed.

I'm tired of owning you.

Jonin/Sannin Sakura>Chunin/Retired Hinata.

Can't wait to see how you spin the facts.
 
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All you've been doing this whole time is arguing with hypothetical "coulda woulda shoulda"s when everything you claim goes against what canon shows.

-You say Sakura is superior to Tsunade in medical ninjutsu without any proof, even when Shikamaru's case and 699 show otherwise.

-You say Sakura has stronger CES than Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade's the one desrtroying a Susano'O.

-You say Sakura has durability on par/passing Tsunade without proof, even when Tsunade tanked SusanoO blades while Cheeks of Steel solo Sakura.

-You say Sakura blitzed Shin's MS, when you have no proof his downgraded Sharingan has precognition, much like it lacks Susano'O.

-You say Sakura is a better combatant than Tsunade with no proof, and while Tsunade is fighting Madara, Sakura is getting saved from Juubi Clones.


Meanwhile I have nothing but proof after proof that you just ignore.


-I present Sakura and Hinata's reflexes during the war showing TWO CASES of Hinata being superior. What do you do? Fall back on an old databook

-I present facts of how Hinata's agility and speed are superior as shown in The Last, close to Naruto's, but lower, feats Sakura lacks. What do you do? Not address them.

-I present the fact that it was 3 Hyugas assigned to guard Naruto, the trump card of the army, and not Sakura or anyone else. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Sakura was on the side line during the war, unlike competent combatants like Hinata and even other medics like Hana/Ino. What do you do? Not address it.

-I present the fact that Hinata's reflexes, agility, and CQC skills are superior, which is what the fight will largely hinge on. What do you do? Bring up intellect, medical feats, and other unrelated tangents.

-I show how sneak attacks are meaningless in cases like Shikamary V Hidan and Bolt V Momoshiki. What do you do? In sheer desperation, insist that Sakura's case is somehow different.
Damn....

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Lmao Lady Byakugan you kill me.

When I post a fact that states Sakura is the or strongest medic in the leaf you bombard me and ask for feats as of the fact was actually stated but in the same breath you’ll say Hinata can fly without showing any proof of her doing so or anything saying she can. You just post a gif of naruto holding her hand in the air as if that’s a feat.

She is not as "off" but she and Femme were the ones that started the irrational pro Sakura movement here in NB. With Femme being a bit absent, Melanin actually changed but deep down inside she is still one of the leaders of the cult baptized as Sakuranism.

It is strange really because a lot of times she posts nice replies and makes sense but when it comes to Sakura.. argh..
Lmao your talking to someone who said Hinata could fly and defeat Neji but your calling me illogical? Keep quite, you don’t want to perpetuate members like that, if i post vague biased feats.. Then what does saying Hinata can fly catalog as?

Vague? Biased? Fanfic?
 
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Is this not cannon?

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Or how about this? Not cannon either huh?

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“Strongest Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."

Just like you never said this huh?

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I’ve posted nothing but facts and you duck them every time and the faps liking your post are doing the same.



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The just countered this but I’ll do it again.

“Sakura struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade did it with one touch.”
Well once again I need to educate some people, some fans of certain, weaker characters. There is this notion which circulated around the fandom back in 2013-2014 and which has reared its ugly head once more in 2017. The claim is that Sakura in the war is an inferior medic to Tsunade as allegedly she struggled to heal Shikamaru while Tsunade effortlessly healed him with one touch. This, like most of what circulates around this fandom, is wrong.

As shown in the panels below Shikamaru lost most, if not all of his chakra and he was dying. Other shinobi experienced this and died already and he was almost there.

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Sakura alludes to his impending death in the above panel as she reached Shikamaru to start the healing process.



Now 2 chapter later we see Sakura healing Shikamaru who is now covered in a chakra cloak courtesy Naruto. She’s healing him while Naruto’s chakra cloak is doing the same.

In summary Sakura is healing dying Shikamaru while Naruto has is supporting this with his cloak’s healing and support abilities.

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Fast forward a bit and the process is successful. Thanks to Naruto’s chakra cloak is was able to rally through. Of course Sakura healed his body as well as pointed out by Ino, another medical ninja.

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Shikamaru is saved. He is out of danger and is no longer at death’s door. Ino thanks Sakura and Naruto while Sakura herself thanks Naruto for his help.



Now let’s get to the funny part. After Shikamaru survives and is out of danger, he is still weak. Tsunade enters the fray and touches him, expediting the healing or giving him chakra, it’s not 100% clear. Let’s assume she healed him further. As shown below he was just saved and Tsunade came and healed him further.

How does this prove that Tsunade succeeded where Sakura failed?

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As seen above Shikamaru was dying and was saved by Sakura and Naruto’s combined efforts. After he was saved but still weak and hurt Tsunade came and touched him which healed him; gave him a chakra boost.

This is not the same thing. The logic behind the ridiculous claim is that Sakura failed and Tsunade healed him but that would mean that he died. Unless he was inflicted again after Sakura + Naruto’s healing Tsunade DID NOT do the same thing.

Sakura and Naruto saved him from dying. After he was saved Tsunade came in and healed him further.

>>>>The false claim implies that Sakura couldn’t give him chakra or heal him after Naruto and herself saved him from dying/immediate danger. She has chakra and can heal so that’s wrong.

>>>>It also implies that Tsunade was also healing a dying Shikamaru when it was shown that he was saved and then she came in after and healed him further.

How does any of that make any sense?

Sakura is so far behind Tsunade that while she struggled and needed Naruto’s help Tsunade effortlessly did the same thing with one hand and no effort?

Shikamaru was dying so Naruto and Sakura saved him but then he was dying again so Tsunade came and did it better with on hand?

I would also like to point out that after he was saved he got up and talked while Sakura paused so had he needed more chakra or healing, she didn’t get the chance to follow up with the supplementary treatments then Tsunade came in and did it for her. It proves nothing other than Tsunade helped her out and Kishi allowed Shikamaru to talk a bit before he was completely fine.

It’s even stated in databook 4 that Tsunade thought of Sakura as an equal and someone who could heal at her side right after the Shikamaru incident, further debunking the shit being said by you.

DATABOOK 4:


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Tsunade to Sakura: “Well done…”


Tsunade’s thoughts: “You won’t have to settle for your rank. Let us rejoice upon your development and stand on the front lines side by side…!!”

Try Again!





Post the scan of Tsunade doing this.

I've yet to see Tsunades chakra enhance strength omit and destroy it's target without touching it.

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Sakura Damaged Kaguya with there bare fist and cracked her horn off.

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Something Naruto couldn't even do.

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Lie when and where did I say that? Point it out please.

Truth I said that Sakura had the same healing ability Tsunade used to tank the SusanoO blades.

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1. Prove his eyes are a down grade.

2. Prove he doesn't have precog.

3. Who even said he had precog?

4. I didn't say Shin had precog, I said his eyes should have perceived her movements being that Sakura charged directly at him, he was able to perceive and react to Sasukes Katon from behind right?

Shin's eyes on his head reacted to Sasuke's Fire Attack from the back though.

Here's the page showing Shin's Eyes on his head reacting to Sasuke's attack..

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What you need to pay attention too.

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Naruto's Observation.

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So why couldn't he pick up sakura chargining him in his direct line of sight?




Lie: I never said Sakura was a better combatant, I said she surpassed Tsunade.

Truth: Sakura reacted to the juubi clone and had the means to defend herself, as she reacted then evaded Kaguya's chakra hand which was much faster and what you are ignoring.

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Naruto & Sasuke took out the clone for her because they were working as a team and theme of the chapter was having each others backs or covering each others back, simple nuance.




And I countered both, after providing you with stats to counter a separate argument.

Stop misconstruing things too, I said Sakura was superior to Hinata before the war started. You Said she wasn't and I provided you their cannon or official stats before the war started.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


Again I countered your feats with a feats with Sakura in addition too proving that Sakura had higher stamina, speed and strength based on their factual stats.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


It's clear who's superior and it's not Hinata.




Hinata has no such feats, post them.

And before you got onto post hint fighting puppets, do remember Sakura was taking Human Puppets in early part two that never scraped her or touched her unlike the puppets Hinata fought.




Lie: I did address it as irrelevant and in no way proves that she stronger then Sakua, it simply means she was one out of many Hyuga to do what she was assigned to do. Lmao but do you wanna play?


>In the beginning of Part 2 Sakura (her team) was sent to deal with S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.

>Neji was sent to back up Sakura (her team) against S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.


Hinata was one of many Hyuga's charged with protecting Naruto, she wasn't personally mandatied like Sakura was to take on (Akatsuki).

Hinata is once again inferior going by your logic.





Addressed!

Yes Sakura was sidelined for the majority of the war but once she wasn't (produced her seal) she wasn't sidelined and her one feat of taking out a battle field of Juubi clones overshadowed everything Hinata/Ino did. How many opponents did Hinata or Hinata take out compared to Sakura in this one scan?

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Also, Hinata isn't a medical ninja (only in filler) unless you can find the scan of her using mystical palm.

which you can't.




More Lies..

You posted those feats and I posted Sakura's.

Never have I once contrasted Sakura's intellect or medical ninjutsu to a feat of Hinatas, stop making shit up.

Sakura's Intellect & Regenration is one of many reasons Hinata is outclassed.

I'm tired of owning you.

Jonin/Sannin Sakura>Chunin/Retired Hinata.

Can't wait to see how you spin the facts.
Damn bro the level of solo is surreal.
 

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Is this not cannon?

Or how about this? Not cannon either huh?

“Strongest Healing Ninja of the hidden leaf. Inherited the will, power and knowledge of her master Tsunade."

Just like you never said this huh?

I’ve posted nothing but facts and you duck them every time and the faps liking your post are doing the same.
To be is future tense no matter how hard you try, just as one would say the boy who grew to be Hokage does not mean that boy is currently the Hokage.

You definitely have short term memory loss as I already told you I said that when I fell for your lie about translating Sakura's promo scan. Not that it matters since promo magazines aren't canon, only the actual film is.

The just countered this but I’ll do it again.
Posting the same thing over and over isn't changing the reality that Tsunade did what Sakura couldn't.

I've yet to see Tsunades chakra enhance strength omit and destroy it's target without touching it.

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Susano'O is greater than a roof. And Sakura did in fact touch that roof with her fist to destroy it, wtf are you talking about?
Sakura Damaged Kaguya with there bare fist and cracked her horn off.
A 2 inch horn isn't stronger than a Susano'O

Something Naruto couldn't even do.
Because Naruto punched her face instead, not the back of it. Physics is important.

Lie when and where did I say that? Point it out please.

Truth I said that Sakura had the same healing ability Tsunade used to tank the SusanoO blades.
Being able to heal from Susano'O wounds doesn't mean Sakura can continue fighting with two blades in her chest as she has no endurance or durability feats to say the pain and bleeding wouldn't cause her to pass out. Especially considering two of Shin's knives were enough to bring her to her knees, so where are you coming from saying she can resist the power of Susano'O blades? :lol

To draw a comparison, Neji and Karin are both stabbed by similar attacks, but Neji dies while Karin survives. Karin is Tsunade. Neji is Sakura.

1. Prove his eyes are a down grade.

2. Prove he doesn't have precog.
I just did. Are you so insecure you can't read? He has two MS and thus should have a Susano'O just as Kakashi did. It is not there, thus proving his Sharingan is inferior. So this means him having precognition is not a garuntee until you can prove otherwise.

4. I didn't say Shin had precog, I said his eyes should have perceived her movements being that Sakura charged directly at him, he was able to perceive and react to Sasukes Katon from behind right?

Shin's eyes on his head reacted to Sasuke's Fire Attack from the back though.

Here's the page showing Shin's Eyes on his head reacting to Sasuke's attack..

What you need to pay attention too.

Naruto's Observation.

So why couldn't he pick up sakura chargining him in his direct line of sight?
Shin's eyes there were using his clone to push him into Sasuke's fire. First panel shows a zoom in on Shin's MS, then the next shows the Shin clone being launched into the fire, and then we get the third panel of Naruto's observation of an eye power. Meaning Naruto is observing his S/T power, not whatever it is you are arguing.

Lie: I never said Sakura was a better combatant, I said she surpassed Tsunade.
Same difference.
Truth: Sakura reacted to the juubi clone and had the means to defend herself, as she reacted then evaded Kaguya's chakra hand which was much faster and what you are ignoring.
Naruto & Sasuke took out the clone for her because they were working as a team and theme of the chapter was having each others backs or covering each others back, simple nuance.
I love how biased you are to try and off-hand Sakura being saved from Juubi clones as Kishimoto wanting to portray Team 7 teamwork when this EXACT logic can be used to off-hand Sakura hitting Kaguya or running away from Kaguya's hand.

"Kakashi saved Sakura because they were working as a team and the theme of that chapter was having each others backs or covering for each others back, simple nuance"

"Sakura hit Kaguya because they were working as a team and the theme of that chapter was having each others backs or covering for each others back, simple nuance"

You're hypocrisy is so blatant and shameful :lmao:

Stop misconstruing things too, I said Sakura was superior to Hinata before the war started. You Said she wasn't and I provided you their cannon or official stats before the war started.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


Again I countered your feats with a feats with Sakura in addition too proving that Sakura had higher stamina, speed and strength based on their factual stats.

Hinata was at a 21 Zzz

Sakura was at 26 =D


It's clear who's superior and it's not Hinata.
Eh, good for you. If you think I was ever arguing Sakura was inferior to Hinata pre-war, you're way off since pre-war Hinata doesn't even have any feats. So all you've done here is go on a tangent unrelated to the points at hand, those being:

-Hinata reacted to a wooden spike that Sakura failed to
-Hinata was assigned to guard Naruto, not Sakura.
-Hinata reacted to Juubi hand while Sakura couldn't dodge a kunai.

:/ And all this is during the war, the latest feats unlike you depending on 3rd databook,

Hinata has no such feats, post them.
Hinata fought multiple Senjutsu-powered puppets in the last. I'm sure you recall that. And she managed to fight fairly well against them considering she wasn't using Byakugan. She managed to land and dodge multiple hits all while being attacked by multiple human-like puppets. At the same time, those puppets occasionally bested Naruto in CQC, blocking and dodging his attacks.



As you can see at 16:48, 17:18, and 1:06:48, the black puppet bests Naruto a few times, yet Hinata also landed a hit and dodged attacks from these same puppets without the aid of her Byakugan. So while it doesn't put her on par with Naruto by any means, just as Kurotsuchi landing a hit on Kinshiki doesn't put her on par with Sasuke, it most certainly puts her above the featless Sakura in terms of combat prowess, reflexes, and speed.

And before you got onto post hint fighting puppets, do remember Sakura was taking Human Puppets in early part two that never scraped her or touched her unlike the puppets Hinata fought.
1. Sakura had to be saved by Chiyo 15+ times during that fight.
2. Chiyo was controlling her.
3. Comparing normal puppets to puppets powered by Six Paths Senjutsu :lmao:
4. The Tenseigan puppers have feats of overwhelming Naruto in CQC, while Sasori's have nothing that can compare to that.

Lie: I did address it as irrelevant and in no way proves that she stronger then Sakua, it simply means she was one out of many Hyuga to do what she was assigned to do. Lmao but do you wanna play?
And why would someone weak like her be assigned to guard the world's saving grace? Put two and two together and anyone can see that Hinata was assigned that position due to her power, which is why Hiashi acknowledges her as a strong Hyuga in chapter 614.

>In the beginning of Part 2 Sakura (her team) was sent to deal with S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.

>Neji was sent to back up Sakura (her team) against S-rank shinobi (Akatsuki) not Hinata or any other Hyuga.
Doesn't really prove much considering I am talking about the war, which is the last feats they get in Part 2 and where the two are at the pinnacle of their power, so anything else before the war is essentially irrelevant. This is like saying Naruto being assigned to go after Akastsuki puts him above Neji by the start of Part 2, which is not the case.
Hinata was one of many Hyuga's charged with protecting Naruto, she wasn't personally mandatied like Sakura was to take on (Akatsuki).

Hinata is once again inferior going by your logic.
But you are bringing up feats from the beginning of Part 2 when I am referring to the end of the series. XDXDXDXD

Yes Sakura was sidelined for the majority of the war but once she wasn't (produced her seal) she wasn't sidelined and her one feat of taking out a battle field of Juubi clones overshadowed everything Hinata/Ino did. How many opponents did Hinata or Hinata take out compared to Sakura in this one scan?
Sakura being sidelined shows she has very weak combat abilities, as other medics like Ino and Hana were fighting on the front lines despite also being medics.

Sakura took out more, but if you'd stop being insecure, you'd realize that was not something I was arguing. Sakura punching the ground like that is irrelevant if her fight is against a human who can jump higher than her shockwave, as shown in Chapters 611 and 651. That said, she also needs to jump really high to produce that level of damage, which would allow Hinata to intercept with Air Palm.

Also, Hinata isn't a medical ninja (only in filler) unless you can find the scan of her using mystical palm.

which you can't.
I never said she was, I said she was on the front lines which shows she is strong, while Sakura was in the back, just like how Inochi, Ao, Mabui, and Shikaku were in the back and they too are not combat types.
You posted those feats and I posted Sakura's.
Chapter 614 shows Hinata reacting to a wooden spike while Sakura fails. Shows who's reflexes are superior.
Never have I once contrasted Sakura's intellect or medical ninjutsu to a feat of Hinatas, stop making shit up.
You're misunderstanding again, but okay w/e.

Sakura's Intellect & Regenration is one of many reasons Hinata is outclassed.
How does intellect help her when she has no intellect feats of exploiting a CQC user's weaknesses? Do you have any feats?

Regeneration isn't working with closed Chakra Points.

I'm tired of owning you.

Jonin/Sannin Sakura>Chunin/Retired Hinata.

Can't wait to see how you spin the facts.
If all else fails, fall back on the ranking system, because you haven't argued Neji VS Sakura or Lee VS Chojuro before :lol

Lmao Lady Byakugan you kill me.

When I post a fact that states Sakura is the or strongest medic in the leaf you bombard me and ask for feats as of the fact was actually stated but in the same breath you’ll say Hinata can fly without showing any proof of her doing so or anything saying she can. You just post a gif of naruto holding her hand in the air as if that’s a feat.



Lmao your talking to someone who said Hinata could fly and defeat Neji but your calling me illogical? Keep quite, you don’t want to perpetuate members like that, if i post vague biased feats.. Then what does saying Hinata can fly catalog as?

Vague? Biased? Fanfic?
Sakura is not the strongest medic in the Leaf, that is Kabuto. She may be the best, but that's phrased in future tense, so who knows when exactly? The Last Promo magazines aren't canon.

Good point, I do say Hinata can fly, but because I know that moment there is ambiguous, I don't bring it up in actual debates like this because I know the argument is flimsy, just as I don't bring up Hinata's Six Paths Chakra since it is more or less featless even though it should REALISTICALLY grant her immense power and speed. It's only you here who is trying to supporting your arguments with hypotheticals.

And for the record, I can't believe you're still trying to convince yourself that Naruto was holding her hand when we see both of his hands caressing her cheeks!! :lol

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Also, I never said Hinata in Part 2 can beat Neji, but that The Last version of her could do so.

In any case, the fact that your arguments are being caped by Mr. Ootsutsuki-are-weak is too damn hilarious since it only further proves how down the trashcan your logic is.
 
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