Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT

[Gabby-chan]

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to side with Pro-Rinnegan. I can't imagine someone having immunity to Genjutsu of any kind simply because they have a certain-type of chakra. Regardless of the type of chakra, they should still be susceptible to Genjutsu period, let alone Genjutsu as strong as IT. The Rikudo chakra in the Susano'o was necessary for blocking out the light of IT, not for Sasuke's sake, but for the sake of everyone who didn't have the Rinnegan. HOWEVER, theoretically, Susano'o might have only been able to negate IT Genjutsu because it is made of Yin chakra, and so Naruto using a Yin-Kurama chakra cloak would have been able to negate the light of IT as well.

It just makes since; Sharingan Genjutsu can cancel out Sharingan Genjutsu, yet both Jinchuriki and Bijuu are still susceptible to Sharingan Genjutsu. Rinnegan Genjutsu can cancel out Rinnegan Genjutsu, yet both Jinchuriki and Bijuu should still be susceptible to Rinnegan Genjutsu.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Now you're backpedaling? First it was only Rinnegan users, and now it's plus dead people? That still doesn't explain how they were not effected by a Genjutsu that penetrates everything, making no differentiation between deaf or alive. Animals were affected as well and they're not human, nor do they have the Rinnegan, so that excuse isn't going to work. Where did you get that from? Where did you get these rules don't apply to Black Zetsu and Edo Tensei kages from? You'd rather make outrageous assumptions, then admit that Rikudo users like Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Black Zetsu (because of Kaguya) and Madara and Kaguya herself are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.

Already addressed I'm not going to repeat myself.

Ps. No shit if the caster himself was affected by their own jutsu or the one that planned to use it. Why would they use it in the firat place?

Which is further proven by Hamura a non-Rinnegan user not being effected by it, when Kaguya used it. Nor can you explain how a Rinnegan and Bijuu chakra are needed to cast Infinite Tsukyomi and to cancel it. But go on the assumption on Sasuke's guess statement (which was proven wrong) that only a Rinnegan user is capable of countering it.

Manga shows Rikudo users (Rinnegan users or non-Rinnegan users) are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.

Manga doesn't say Kaguya cast IT after Hamura was born so there goes that one. Manga shows BZ confirming Sasuke's resistance because of the Rinnegan and no other rokudo user is shown being able to resist it. Obito was under BZ control that was already addressed. The rest is you speculating with 0 evidence like a confirmation or inplication from the author for Naruto like we have for Sasuke.

Come back with some actual evidence.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to side with Pro-Rinnegan. I can't imagine someone having immunity to Genjutsu of any kind simply because they have a certain-type of chakra. Regardless of the type of chakra, they should still be susceptible to Genjutsu period, let alone Genjutsu as strong as IT. The Rikudo chakra in the Susano'o was necessary for blocking out the light of IT, not for the sake Sasuke, but everyone who didn't have the Rinnegan. HOWEVER, theoretically, Susano'o might have only been able to negate IT Genjutsu because it is made of Yin chakra, and so Naruto using a Yin-Kurama chakra cloak would have been able to negate the light of IT as well.

It just makes since; Sharingan Genjutsu can cancel out Sharingan Genjutsu, yet both Jinchuriki and Bijuu are still susceptible to Sharingan Genjutsu. Rinnegan Genjutsu can canel out Rinnegan Genjutsu, yet both Jinchuriki and Bijuu should still be susceptible to Rinnegan Genjutsu.

Dont tell that to the anti Rinnegan camp they may gun for you.

 

[rinnegan human puppet]

Every fanbase has that one ridiculous thing they try to pass off. For hardcore naruto fans this is it. Lol.. I mean it is blatantly shown and stated in the manga.

 

[Uverdore9]

It was nothing special. Just a fusion of his rinnegan to his sharingan.

This fusion didnt exist back then. Which is the power Hagoromo reluctant to give Indra. Zetsu thought everyone'll be caught by IT. And that's stands to point Asura powers whichre redundantll be caught.

 

[Glad Of War]

^^Great one more tard smh.

Tard?
You do know that sounds every bit of weightless as a mad man calling someone a tard, right?

Let's visit your logic; you are saying Naruto is immuned to it because she didn't use it on him, right? That's like saying Naruto is ultimately immuned to genjutsu, which is erring seeing as he got trapped in Toneri's genjutsu during "the last."

Just so you know, since you are ignorant personified, Infinite Tsukuyomi is the epitome of genjutsu. If Naruto couldn't resist Toneri's genjutsu, logic dictates he wouldn't resist the highest genjutsu in existence, except he has the means you dunderhead.

Goddd

 

[Glad Of War]

Now you're backpedaling? First it was only Rinnegan users, and now it's plus dead people? That still doesn't explain how they were not effected by a Genjutsu that penetrates everything, making no differentiation between dead or alive. Animals were affected as well and they're not human, nor do they have the Rinnegan, so that excuse isn't going to work. Where did you get that from? Where did you get these rules don't apply to Black Zetsu and Edo Tensei kages from? You'd rather make outrageous assumptions, then admit that Rikudo users like Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Black Zetsu (because of Kaguya) and Madara and Kaguya herself are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.

Which is further proven by Hamura a non-Rinnegan user not being effected by it, when Kaguya used it. Nor can you explain how a Rinnegan and Bijuu chakra are needed to cast Infinite Tsukyomi and to cancel it. But go on the assumption on Sasuke's guess statement (which was proven wrong) that only a Rinnegan user is capable of countering it.

Manga shows Rikudo users (Rinnegan users or non-Rinnegan users) are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.

Kaguya used Infinite Tsukuyomi prior to conceiving her sons, which was depicted on anime.

Obviously you are going to try and use the "filler" point to rubbish this, and so; the Databook stated Kaguya used Infinite Tsukuyomi when she ate the fruit. This preceded the events leading to her birth.

You Hyuuga fans are quite the ignorant bunch.

 

[Mori Jin]

Already addressed I'm not going to repeat myself.

Ps. No shit if the caster himself was affected by their own jutsu or the one that planned to use it. Why would they use it in the firat place?

Concession Accepted.

Manga doesn't say Kaguya cast IT after Hamura was born so there goes that one. Manga shows BZ confirming Sasuke's resistance because of the Rinnegan and no other rokudo user is shown being able to resist it. Obito was under BZ control that was already addressed. The rest is you speculating with 0 evidence like a confirmation or inplication from the author for Naruto like we have for Sasuke.

Come back with some actual evidence.



Dont tell that to the anti Rinnegan camp they may gun for you.

Hagormo and Hamura are Twins, Hagoromo knew about the Infinite Tsukyomi, its effects, how it was casted and countered. Kaguya did use it on the populace when they were alive.

Black Zetsu was surprised it was countered, that alone shows he thought they were all going to be caught in the Genjutsu. Obito, Hamura, Black Zetsu, 3 Rikudo users without a Rinnegan not being effected by Infinite. Yet Obito nor Black Zetsu had the Rinnegan at that point in time, throws your whole "only Rinnegan users" schmuck out the window. You go by Sasuke assumption, which again was proven wrong, and take it as fact. Just his claim of being the strongest and not backing it up. Or not needing Sakura and Kakashi's help, which turned out false as he'd be dead without them. Yeah but I'm the one making things up. You've yet to prove how non-rinnegan users can't counter Infinite Tsukyomi.

Show some evidence proving your claim.

 

[Gabby-chan]

Dont tell that to the anti Rinnegan camp they may gun for you.

 

[salamander uchiha]

-snip insert fanfic here-

Don't care.

Scan or no beleivance, you've yet to susbtantiate anything.

Naruto fan repeats the same trash and calls it a concession. I concede to your cognitive regression.

:bye:

:lol.

 

[Mori Jin]

Kaguya used Infinite Tsukuyomi prior to conceiving her sons, which was depicted on anime.

Obviously you are going to try and use the "filler" point to rubbish this, and so; the Databook stated Kaguya used Infinite Tsukuyomi when she ate the fruit. This preceded the events leading to her birth.

You Hyuuga fans are quite the ignorant bunch.

Post the databook statement.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744733" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744733">Gabby-chan said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <img src="/images/smilies/shy.gif" class="smilie" alt=":shy:" title="Shy :shy:" data-shortname=":shy:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>They wouldnt dare, and nice comment back there, i kinda miss logic people around here</div>

 

[Gabby-chan]

Concession Accepted.



Hagormo and Hamura are Twins, Hagoromo knew about the Infinite Tsukyomi, its effects, how it was casted and countered. Kaguya did use it on the populace when they were alive.

Black Zetsu was surprised it was countered, that alone shows he thought they were all going to be caught in the Genjutsu. Obito, Hamura, Black Zetsu, 3 Rikudo users without a Rinnegan not being effected by Infinite. Yet Obito nor Black Zetsu had the Rinnegan at that point in time, throws your whole "only Rinnegan users" schmuck out the window. You go by Sasuke assumption, which again was proven wrong, and take it as fact. Just his claim of being the strongest and not backing it up. Or not needing Sakura and Kakashi's help, which turned out false as he'd be dead without them. Yeah but I'm the one making things up. You've yet to prove how non-rinnegan users can't counter Infinite Tsukyomi.

Show some evidence proving your claim.

As shown with Obito, any invulnerability Black Zetsu has, such as immunity to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, is transferred to its host at the time.

 

[Mori Jin]

Scan or no beleivance.

Naruto fan repeats the same trash and calls it a concession. I concede to your cognitive regression.

:bye:

I see you couldn't counter a single thing I said. Failed Yet again just like your favourite fictional character. Don't bother replying.

Concession Accepted

 

[FemmeFatale]

Naruto is because he is made from the body of the juubi a empty shell, that is why he is so dineitted because he have no mind to genjutsu , lol

 

[Mori Jin]

As shown with Obito, any invulnerability Black Zetsu has, such as immunity to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, is transferred to its host at the time.

Yet 2 non-rinnegan users (black Zetsu and Obito), did not get effected by Infinite Tsukyomi. Throws that whole assumption out the window.

 

[SeveN797]

It doesn't matter how many times this thread is created there is NO evidence Naruto is not immune to IT. Kishi has never stated Naruto is not immune to it. Everyone claiming Naruto is not immune to IT is fanfic.

I will say again, Sasuke claiming (assuming) Naruto is not immune to IT is not fact. Sasuke didn't even know how IT works and he don't know how RSM works. He assumed the rinnegan alone would be enough to cancel IT and he was proven wrong.

Naruto is in the similar situation as Sasuke when it comes to dealing with IT. They both possess half of the powers needed to cancel IT. That alone means he has to power to effect IT. The only difference is we know for fact Sasuke is immune to IT while Naruto is in the unknown.

The problem is the fan logic around here. A character (Sasuke) makes statements about how a jutsu (IT) works. Is proven to be wrong, yet people still takes all of his statements to be fact.

He was proven wrong about how to undo IT. Sasuke thought his power alone (Rinnegan) could do it, but he also needed Naruto's power.
He wasn't proven wrong about Naruto's immunity tho, as Naruto listened to him and stayed inside, instead of walking out and proving Sasuke wrong. You know well Naruto is not the type of guy that listen to other people, especially when it comes to his rival and someone who he wanted to be equal with. You could see Naruto's face and how pissed he was when Sasuke ordered him, yet for some reason, he didn't decide to prove him wrong... wonder why.
Further in the manga there's also nothing indicating Naruto's immunity. The IT topic was dropped and never mentioned again, so Sasuke's statement holds. Naruto fans may create a numerous ways of him resisting IT, but those will forever remain fanfics Im afraid.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

This fusion didnt exist back then. Which is the power Hagoromo reluctant to give Indra. Zetsu thought everyone'll be caught by IT. And that's stands to point Asura powers whichre redundantll be caught.

Doesn't matter cuz they were just rinnegan and sharingan fused or not.

Tard?
You do know that sounds every bit of weightless as a mad man calling someone a tard, right?

Let's visit your logic; you are saying Naruto is immuned to it because she didn't use it on him, right? That's like saying Naruto is ultimately immuned to genjutsu, which is erring seeing as he got trapped in Toneri's genjutsu during "the last."

Just so you know, since you are ignorant personified, Infinite Tsukuyomi is the epitome of genjutsu. If Naruto couldn't resist Toneri's genjutsu, logic dictates he wouldn't resist the highest genjutsu in existence, except he has the means you dunderhead.

Goddd

I call it as I see it :lol

And PJ's are immune to genjutsu as long as their bijuu's are helping them snap out of it. Which only proves that Kurama intentionally didn't break him out of Toneri's genjutsu as he wanted Naruto to see Hinata's feeling. So your logic doesn't work here.

As for IT, then I've already given my explanation. And only Sasuke fans would believe something as retarded as Kaguya won't use IT even if it worked lol.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744744" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744744">Mori Jin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yet 2 non-rinnegan users (black Zetsu and Obito), did not get effected by Infinite Tsukyomi. Throws that whole assumption out the window. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Obito was controlled by BZ and was literally dead , and BZ wasnt affected because he is not even Human</div>

 

[salamander uchiha]

I see you couldn't counter a single thing I said. Failed Yet again just like your favourite fictional character. Don't bother replying.

Concession Accepted

Counter unsubstantiated trash? Suffers from congitive regression just like his favourite character.

Don't bother replying I've already accepted your concession.

 

[Gabby-chan]

Yet 2 non-rinnegan users (black Zetsu and Obito), did not get effected by Infinite Tsukyomi. Throws that whole assumption out the window.

Black Zetsu, being a mere extension of Kaguya's will, is immune to Infinite Tsukuyomi. Obito, being the host of Black Zetsu, is afforded Black Zetsu's invulnerabilities. It would only make since as well, considering:

- Black Zetsu couldn't possibly be compatible with a host that is susceptible to attacks Black Zetsu is otherwise immune to.
- While manipulating the host, Black Zetsu is afforded complete control over all of their phsyical movements and abilities, including their Kekkei Genkai, so it goes without saying that this is reciprocated and the host is afforded all of the abilities of Black Zetsu, or at least its invulnerability. Think of it like a Symbiotic Relationship, with Black Zetsu in complete control (unless the host exerts enough will to counteract Black Zetsu).