How is Naruto gonna combat 3rd eye wielders?

[Warlocks]

There wasn't a moon for NV earth before Hagoromo created it to seal Kaguya with his CT lol. And Kaguya was still able to cast the IT without the moon. Which is proof enough that Kaguya doesn't need it but still if moon's the concern then Kaguya's dimensions had moons as well if I remember it correctly.

1v1 moon is not needed here madara used IT on obito

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[Darth AniCetuS]

BZ doesn't seems to agree, as he's actually surprised by the fact that Sasuke managed to shield them from IT.

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So he actually thought that once Madara casted IT it was over, and everyone would be caught in genjutsu, including team 7. And what happened? In the end it was Sasuke who turned out to be immune and saved his team. Not a single mention or a hint indicating that Naruto was also immune, hell the manga actually straight up told us otherwhise. So no, still doesn't make a sense as your pulling that BZ knowledge argument out of your ass, since it doesn't hold together at all.

I see you thought you have a point for once but no. If you read carefully then you'll notice that he's more surprised about his rinnegan able to deter the effects of IT and save others as well. It doesn't validate your point that without it they're not immune.
In fact any explanation you bring in wouldn't matter due to the events that occurred during the Kaguya fight.

You're basically arguing that a person has a rifle(usual attacks) and a C4 explosive(IT). He knows the C4 explosive will destroy the bunker for certain and yet he uses a rifle which does nothing to the bunker. Realize how stupid that sounds lol.

Again if Kaguya's IT was effective she'd have used it.

 

[Warlocks]

Just because Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto doesn't mean it is proof it won't work on Naruto. Kaguya didn't use IT on Sakura and Kakashi but that doesn't mean it won't work on them.

she didn't care about them cuz they are fofder that was even said by kakashi

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[SeveN797]

I see you though you have a point for once but no. If you read carefully then you'll notice that he's more surprised about his rinnegan able to deter the effects of IT and save others as well. It doesn't validate your point that without it they're not immune.

Yes it does, BZ makes an assumption, Sasuke confirmed it page later. Deny it all you want, but repeating one thing over and over again won't make it true. Kaguya's action did not contradict Sasuke's statement, because last time I asked you to prove it with manga facts you brought this BZ argument of knowing that Naruto is immune, and as I explained it doesn't make sense, because BZ thought that whole team 7 should have been affected.

You're basically arguing that a person has a rifle(usual attacks) and a C4 explosive(IT). He knows the C4 explosive will destroy the bunker for certain and yet he uses a rifle which does nothing to the bunker. Realize how stupid that sounds lol.

Again if Kaguya's IT was effective she'd have used it.

I don't care how stupid it sounds, I didn't write this manga. The statement about Naruto being vulnerable was made. To contradict this, Kaguya would need to cast IT, so that we could see Naruto's immunity. She didn't cast IT, we don't know the reason why. Yet your whole argument is this :

Kaguya didn't use IT because Naruto is immune

How is Naruto immune?
Because Kaguya didn't use IT.

Why didn't Kaguya use IT?
Becase Naruto is immune.

But how do you know that he's immune?
Because she didn't use IT on him.



Realize how stupid that sounds now...Especially that you still didn't answer how Kaguya know that Naruto is immune, without actually trying IT on him.

You're using these 2 topics and trying to connect them. You're using the fact of Kaguya not using IT and trying to connect it to prove Naruto's fanfic immunity.

But in actual manga, these 2 aren't connected. We don't know why Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto, or even if she could back then, but we do know thanks to Sasuke that Naruto would be affected. Im still waiting for an answer on how do you know that Kaguya knew Naruto is immune, when manga told us otherwise.

 

[super michael]

Jinchuuriki and Bijuus are weak to Mokuton, yet Jinchuuriki Madara and Kaguya didn’t use it on Naruto.

Kaguya didn’t use IT on Obito, Sakura, Kakashi and Naruto, doesn’t mean they are immune to IT. Officially only Sasuke is states to be immmune thanks to his Susano and Rinnengan.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Yes it does, BZ makes an assumption, Sasuke confirmed it page later. Deny it all you want, but repeating one thing over and over again won't make it true. Kaguya's action did not contradict Sasuke's statement, because last time I asked you to prove it with manga facts you brought this BZ argument of knowing that Naruto is immune, and as I explained it doesn't make sense, because BZ thought that whole team 7 should have been affected.

First you say he's surprised now you say he made an assumption. Which is it? I'd say he was surprised to see Sasuke's rinnegan able to protect others under his susanoo.
And I am not the one in denial here. And I have no choice but to repeat myself about Kaguya's actions does contradict Sasuke's claims and you have shown me no proof where it confirms Naruto is not immune to IT. As I've shown before, Sasuke isn't always right.

I don't care how stupid it sounds, I didn't write this manga. The statement about Naruto being vulnerable was made. To contradict this, Kaguya would need to cast IT, so that we could see Naruto's immunity. She didn't cast IT, we don't know the reason why. Yet your whole argument is this :

Kaguya didn't use IT because Naruto is immune

How is Naruto immune?
Because Kaguya didn't use IT.

Why didn't Kaguya use IT?
Becase Naruto is immune.

But how do you know that he's immune?
Because she didn't use IT on him.

Yup, if IT really did work then as I've already said many times by now it would've been the best technique to use against Naruto and yet Kaguya uses everything but IT. The only logical reason is that IT doesn't work on Naruto and thus she'd be wasting her chakra for nothing.

Realize how stupid that sounds now...Especially that you still didn't answer how Kaguya know that Naruto is immune, without actually trying IT on him.

Lol do you even need to ask. She immediately recognized Ashura and Indra's chakra in Naruto and Sasuke and also that Hagoromo shared his powers with them. And she's aware of the capabilities of those powers.

You're using these 2 topics and trying to connect them. You're using the fact of Kaguya not using IT and trying to connect it to prove Naruto's fanfic immunity.

That's all the proof you need to prove Naruto is immune to IT because of the reasons mentioned above. Now I can understand a Sasuke fanboy's desire to see Naruto being susceptible to IT but the events in the manga simply disagree with them.

But in actual manga, these 2 aren't connected. We don't know why Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto, or even if she could back then, but we do know thanks to Sasuke that Naruto would be affected. Im still waiting for an answer on how do you know that Kaguya knew Naruto is immune, when manga told us otherwise.

@Bold I already gave you the reasons why and how she knew he was immune.

 

[Uverdore9]

The only proof you need to establish fact Naruto cant tolerate Tsukoyomi is Kakashi extrapolating on size of moon. Despite not going there. Statements no matter who said it are canon and fact unless debunked by other statements.

 

[SeveN797]

First you say he's surprised now you say he made an assumption. Which is it? I'd say he was surprised to see Sasuke's rinnegan able to protect others under his susanoo.
And I am not the one in denial here. And I have no choice but to repeat myself about Kaguya's actions does contradict Sasuke's claims and you have shown me no proof where it confirms Naruto is not immune to IT. As I've shown before, Sasuke isn't always right.

He was surprised, and made an assumption Sasuke managed to do it, because his Rinnegan and Susanoo.

Yup, if IT really did work then as I've already said many times by now it would've been the best technique to use against Naruto and yet Kaguya uses everything but IT. The only logical reason is that IT doesn't work on Naruto and thus she'd be wasting her chakra for nothing.

I don't care what you think is logical to assume or what was the best technique to use against Naruto in your opinion. You're repeating yourself over and over again without providing manga facts to support your claims.

Lol do you even need to ask. She immediately recognized Ashura and Indra's chakra in Naruto and Sasuke and also that Hagoromo shared his powers with them. And she's aware of the capabilities of those powers.

Fanfic, nowhere in the manga was stated that Indra's/Ashura's chakra would protect you from IT. Especially that Sasuke was aiming only to save Naruto, as he didn't care for Sakura and Kakashi. If he knew that Ashura's chakra would protect Naruto, he wouldn't fly down to shield him.

That's all the proof you need to prove Naruto is immune to IT because of the reasons mentioned above. Now I can understand a Sasuke fanboy's desire to see Naruto being susceptible to IT but the events in the manga simply disagree with them.


@Bold I already gave you the reasons why and how she knew he was immune.

Lack of evidence is not evidence. Kaguya not using IT on Naruto doesn't automatically prove he's immune. So far you tried 2 arguments.

1.BZ knowing Naruto is immune which I proved wrong.
2. Kaguya knowing Naruto is immune because of Ashura's chakra, which I also proved wrong

Got something else?

 

[Uverdore9]

By Naruto's fan'ss logic, Kakashi is immune to IT because Kaguya never used it on him.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

There is nothing to wait and see kaguya is gone and naruto has shown no defense from IT. what a horrible excuse and giving naruto the benefit of the doubt is blasphemy. It's no different than proposing Sakura can defend herself from IT. Thanks for giving Sakura fans leverage

Naruto hasn't shown himself falling into it either

what a stupid conclusion you came up with


idk why you guys always try and stretch one baseless opinion as fact the hypocrisy/delusion knows now bounds it seems

By Naruto's fan'ss logic, Kakashi is immune to IT because Kaguya never used it on him.

again Sasuke saving Team 7 from IT is as useful as an argument as Sasuke saving Naruto with his hawk from falling


Hagoromo wouldn't just give Sasuke an immune power up when he knows IT is a card that can be played

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

He was surprised, and made an assumption Sasuke managed to do it, because his Rinnegan and Susanoo.

Lol there was nothing to assume, everything happened right in front of him :lol

I don't care what you think is logical to assume or what was the best technique to use against Naruto in your opinion. You're repeating yourself over and over again without providing manga facts to support your claims.

Well you should cuz 2+2 is always 4 and not 5. You wish it to be 5 but it never will be and I'll repeat it as many times as needed.

Fanfic, nowhere in the manga was stated that Indra's/Ashura's chakra would protect you from IT. Especially that Sasuke was aiming only to save Naruto, as he didn't care for Sakura and Kakashi. If he knew that Ashura's chakra would protect Naruto, he wouldn't fly down to shield him.

That holds true with your argument cuz nowhere it was stated that Naruto isn't immune to it. While Kaguya's actions clearly proves my point.

Lack of evidence is not evidence. Kaguya not using IT on Naruto doesn't automatically prove he's immune. So far you tried 2 arguments.

Then provide some evidence to back your case. I already gave mine.

1.BZ knowing Naruto is immune which I proved wrong.
2. Kaguya knowing Naruto is immune because of Ashura's chakra, which I also proved wrong

Lol, you didn't. Their actions and the events are already canon and everything points to Naruto being immune to IT.
Your denial isn't proof :lol

Got something else?

That depends.

 

[SeveN797]

Well you should cuz 2+2 is always 4 and not 5. You wish it to be 5 but it never will be and I'll repeat it as many times as needed.

Lmao you're literally describing yourself right now. Wishing Naruto is immune to IT, when manga disagree with you, so sad.

That holds true with your argument cuz nowhere it was stated that Naruto isn't immune to it. While Kaguya's actions clearly proves my point.

Yes it was stated through Sasuke words and the fact stays, since no one argued with him or proved him wrong.
@bold That's what you're thinking, but you couldn't prove it for 3 pages, it will forever remain as fanfic unless you prove it.

Then provide some evidence to back your case. I already gave mine.

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Lol, you didn't. Their actions and the events are already canon and everything points to Naruto being immune to IT.
Your denial isn't proof :lol

No counter argument?
Repeating same thing over and over again?
I didn't because? Because you say so? Prove me wrong then instead of empty words, or I guess you can't.
I already solo'ed every of your arguments, and your reply is "Lol you didn't" lmao, how old are you? You're acting like a child that played game with an adult and lost, and kid is like "no i didn't lose you lose *cries*"

@bold you can't prove it = fanfic
You're speaking of denial, when you're the one who is going against manga's words and trying to prove something that doesn't exist, sad. Provide some new arguments, instead of repeating same ones and acting like I didn't solo them or stop wasting my time.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Lmao you're literally describing yourself right now. Wishing Naruto is immune to IT, when manga disagree with you, so sad.

Yup I am the 2+2=4 guy.

Yes it was stated through Sasuke words and the fact stays, since no one argued with him or proved him wrong.

Again Kaguya's action already proved him wrong...

@bold That's what you're thinking, but you couldn't prove it for 3 pages, it will forever remain as fanfic unless you prove it.

I am sorry that is the proof. I can't help you if you're in denial of the obvious.

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Already proven wrong.

No counter argument?
Repeating same thing over and over again?
I didn't because? Because you say so? Prove me wrong then instead of empty words, or I guess you can't.
I already solo'ed every of your arguments, and your reply is "Lol you didn't" lmao, how old are you? You're acting like a child that played game with an adult and lost, and kid is like "no i didn't lose you lose *cries*"

@bold you can't prove it = fanfic
You're speaking of denial, when you're the one who is going against manga's words and trying to prove something that doesn't exist, sad. Provide some new arguments, instead of repeating same ones and acting like I didn't solo them or stop wasting my time.

Dude I've given all the proof to make my point you however keep coming back to Sasuke said this he said that blah blah blah. But he was proven wrong again.

And Kaguya's actions aren't empty words while yours are mere assumption based on Sasuke's statement which were proven wrong.

You soloed nothing though you tried your best. Its just that you didn't have an argument to begin with just mere assumptions which you wanted to believe to be true but aren't again in the light of the manga events. And you're still trying too hard without any success.

 

[SeveN797]

Yup I am the 2+2=4 guy.



Again Kaguya's action already proved him wrong...



I am sorry that is the proof. I can't help you if you're in denial of the obvious.



Already proven wrong.



Dude I've given all the proof to make my point you however keep coming back to Sasuke said this he said that blah blah blah. But he was proven wrong again.

And Kaguya's actions aren't empty words while yours are mere assumption based on Sasuke's statement which were proven wrong.

You soloed nothing though you tried your best. Its just that you didn't have an argument to begin with just mere assumptions which you wanted to believe to be true but aren't again in the light of the manga events. And you're still trying too hard without any success.

So actions without words or a single dialogue aren't assumptions, but a clearly made statement is? Listen to yourself

All the proof you gave me, I proved is incorrect, and I don't see a counter arguments.

I asked on how Kaguya knew Naruto is immune. I've got the "Indra's/Ashura's chakra" argument which is fanfic, as nowhere in the manga was this stated. Of course you didn't prove it in the next post, instead you to tried to switch it backwards :

"That holds true with your argument cuz nowhere it was stated that Naruto isn't immune to it." - while it clearly was stated through Sasuke. Of course didn't also bother to prove your "Indra's/Ashura's chakra" argument, all you did was repeat - "While Kaguya's actions clearly proves my point."

2nd argument about BZ, also proved wrong as BZ wasn't expecting anyone from team 7 to be able to resist IT.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

So actions without words or a single dialogue aren't assumptions, but a clearly made statement is? Listen to yourself

Smh, clearly made statement doesn't mean its a fact when the same persons's other statements were proven wrong. Not to mention Sasuke himself made an assumption there by adding probably.

All the proof you gave me, I proved is incorrect, and I don't see a counter arguments.

All you did is deny the facts. You can't prove them to be incorrect...

I asked on how Kaguya knew Naruto is immune. I've got the "Indra's/Ashura's chakra" argument which is fanfic, as nowhere in the manga was this stated. Of course you didn't prove it in the next post, instead you to tried to switch it backwards :

Here hold one more L bro....

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"That holds true with your argument cuz nowhere it was stated that Naruto isn't immune to it." - while it clearly was stated through Sasuke. Of course didn't also bother to prove your "Indra's/Ashura's chakra" argument, all you did was repeat - "While Kaguya's actions clearly proves my point."

2nd argument about BZ, also proved wrong as BZ wasn't expecting anyone from team 7 to be able to resist IT.

And again stop being in denial of the facts bro. You've done nothing but make an assumption of an assumption and tried to post it as fact while Kaguya's actions against Naruto and not using IT are facts and BZ not suggesting her to use IT vs Naruto again invalidates your argument about him.

Overall you've done nothing other than being a butthurt Sasuke fan who can't accept manga facts and tried to push your assumptions as facts.

 

[SeveN797]

Smh, clearly made statement doesn't mean its a fact when the same persons's other statements were proven wrong. Not to mention Sasuke himself made an assumption there by adding probably.

The word probably was in the line about canceling IT, not about telling Naruto he would be affected Do you even listen?
@bold so just because Sasuke wasn't right once, about canceling IT, it automatically means all his previous and future statemens are now forever wrong? What ?

All you did is deny the facts. You can't prove them to be incorrect...

I see.. still no counter arguments

Here hold one more L bro....

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What does this prove? The jutsu Kaguya is speaking off are seals which are used for six path chibaku tensei.

And again stop being in denial of the facts bro. You've done nothing but make an assumption of an assumption and tried to post it as fact while Kaguya's actions against Naruto and not using IT are facts and BZ not suggesting her to use IT vs Naruto again invalidates your argument about him.

Overall you've done nothing other than being a butthurt Sasuke fan who can't accept manga facts and tried to push your assumptions as facts.

Atleast I posted arguments as for why you're wrong, while on the other side, you still didn't post any counter arguments, but all you had to say was "lol you didn't prove anything, im still right" Grow up and admit that you lost if you have nothing new to say, or post new arguments/counter arguments.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The word probably was in the line about canceling IT, not about telling Naruto he would be affected Do you even listen?
@bold so just because Sasuke wasn't right once, about canceling IT, it automatically means all his previous and future statemens are now forever wrong? What ?

No wonder you're debating this. First learn to read and understand the context then comeback :lol

@Bold It only proves that his statements can't be taken as facts especially when he's talking about someone else's technique and doesn't know much about rinnegan himself.

I see.. still no counter arguments

Why would I bother to counter fanfic lol.

What does this prove? The jutsu Kaguya is speaking off are seals which are used for six path chibaku tensei.

For Hagoromo to pass those seals/technique he also needs to pass some of his chakra. Just like when Itachi planted an amaterasu in Sasuke's eyes. Simple logic.

Atleast I posted arguments as for why you're wrong, while on the other side, you still didn't post any counter arguments, but all you had to say was "lol you didn't prove anything, im still right" Grow up and admit that you lost if you have nothing new to say, or post new arguments/counter arguments.

Those were assumptions of an assumption not arguments whereas I posted facts which you're still in denial.

@Bold But you're the one holding all the L's lol.

 

[SeveN797]

No wonder you're debating this. First learn to read and understand the context then comeback :lol

@Bold It only proves that his statements can't be taken as facts especially when he's talking about someone else's technique and doesn't know much about rinnegan himself.

Oh, then enlight me a bright one, since you are a such of smartass.
Statement holds true as long as no one proves it was incorrect.

Why would I bother to counter fanfic lol.

Still no counter arguments?

For Hagoromo to pass those seals/technique he also needs to pass some of his chakra. Just like when Itachi planted an amaterasu in Sasuke's eyes. Simple logic.

And what does this prove? Are you trying to imply that Hago's chakra would make them immune? In some way it did, because Sasuke awakened Rinnegan thanks to it, but it does not work same way for Naruto.

Those were assumptions of an assumption not arguments whereas I posted facts which you're still in denial.

@Bold But you're the one holding all the L's lol.

Kid... that's what Im talking about, you're acting as a spoiled baby "No you are wrong and Im the one posting facts

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Note that you haven't explained anything in few latest posts, as for why I am wrong, all you do is keep saying "you are wrong

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" by saying that I post only assumptions.

Post something worthy reading instead of repeating yourself or otherwise I don't see a point dragging this any longer

 

[Scryed]

It wasn't stated whether Naruto is immune to it or if he's vulnerable to it. All that was shown was that Sasuke was able to shield him with his PS due to his Rinnegan.

Why didn't she use it against Naruto again? For the same reason she didn't teleport just herself away to prevent being sealed or used that fully body blow that she used on PS when it came at her from above. The same reason she didn't use Ameno to teleport herself and Naruto somewhere else again when Sasuke was brought back to separate them yet again. Afterall, Obito and Sakura don't have the chakra to search through the dimensions again.
Kishi simply didn't have her do those things since the good guys are supposed to win in the end.

 

[King Of Pop]

I see naruto faptards at it again with their rubbish and it's always the usual suspects making fool of themselves. No He isn't immune and it was implied he would have been caught if he left PS so that ends it. The manga has never alluded to him being immune so anything being stated so is fanfiction. Him being immune because kaguya didn't use it on him is obviously a stupid argument since manga nothing suggests that in the manga, also there are other possible reasons. Perhaps she couldn't because the jutsu's effects was still present among the victims, or she thought it a waste since sasuke would simply protect naruto again. Whatever the case is we don't know so bringing it up is pointless. BZ witnessed naruto camp under soosano so if anything that would make him think naruto is susceptible to the genjutsu and not the other way around. So that argument doesn't fly. She didn't also use it when Dms kakashi showed up, so I guess he too is immune right? Smh

It wasn't stated whether Naruto is immune to it or if he's vulnerable to it. All that was shown was that Sasuke was able to shield him with his PS due to his Rinnegan.

Bold. Not exactly

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So yes, it was stated he was indeed vulnerable. Agreed with the rest