salamander uchiha
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Narutofan logic at it's finest.
Anybody can do anything in absence of anything negating their ability to do so.
Naruto is not IMMUNE to IT
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Anybody can do anything in absence of anything negating their ability to do so.
A Rikudo enhanced cloak of chakra (Susano'o) protected Sasuke from Infinite Tsukyomi. Naruto's cloak of chakra and Bijuu mode is also Rikudo enhanced, hell his one also has the added benefits of having Rikudo Sage Mode; which Sasuke doesn't have.
Now to all these butthurt fanboys here, claiming that Naruto can't counter it; and that only a Rinnegan user can. How then did Obito a non-Rinnegan user (at that time) not get caught? The only thing he had at that time was Rikudo chakra, like Naruto and Sasuke. How did Black Zetsu not get caught in it? He didn't have the Rinnegan either. He (by default) also had Rikudo chakra because, he was a piece of Kaguya. How did the Edo Hokages not get caught, without them having either the Rinnegan or Rikudo chakra? When the only thing that can supposedly counter it, is the Rinnegan? Why did Kaguya not use it against Naruto, when she/black Zetsu knew he "cant" counter it? It would have ended the fight easily?
Long story short. Rikudo users can counter it. Those in denial, go and prove he can't.
Now to all these butthurt fanboys here, claiming that Naruto can't counter it; and that only a Rinnegan user can. How then did Obito a non-Rinnegan user (at that time) not get caught? The only thing he had at that time was Rikudo chakra, like Naruto and Sasuke. How did Black Zetsu not get caught in it? He didn't have the Rinnegan either. He (by default) also had Rikudo chakra because, he was a piece of Kaguya. How did the Edo Hokages not get caught, without them having either the Rinnegan or Rikudo chakra? When the only thing that can supposedly counter it, is the Rinnegan? Why did Kaguya not use it against Naruto, when she/black Zetsu knew he "cant" counter it? It would have ended the fight easily?
Long story short. Rikudo users can counter it. Those in denial, go and prove he can't.
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@bold:He had Black Zetsu which is Kaguya's will attached to him, keeping him alive and controlling him. He's the one that altered the tablet so IT can be cast so he could revive Kaguya, if it was possible for him to get caught he wouldn't have done so in the first place.
Long story short only a rinnegan user has been attributed with the ability to counter it. Nobody else anybody else given the ability is pure fanfic ubless kishi confirms otherwise.
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Kaguya didn't use IT against Obito, Sakura and Kakashi doesn't mean they are immune. Kaguya not using a jutsu doesn't mean they are immune to its jutsu. Madara stopped using Mokuton doesn't mean it doesn't work on his opponents.
Fact is we have statement that Sasuke is immune to IT, but there is no official statement from the anime, manga and databook that Naruto is immune from IT.
Kaguya is just plain dumb that is all.
I don't care about debates with IT being used against Naruto, or who is the author of this thread. Sasuke made that statement and it holds, because later on no one argued or proved him wrong about it.No one can prove that IT affects or doesn't affect Naruto or that he isn't/is capable of defending himself from IT. Thus IT can't be used in debates against Naruto.
Then there's the fact that people say that only Rinnegan can counter IT, yet BZ, Obtio and The Edo's were unaffected.
Only trolls will push the notion that Naruto gets hit with it. And are we really about to take the guy who repeatedly says that Sakura =Naruto/Sasuke, seriously?
BZ isn't real human, neither are Edo's and Obito wasn't affected only because BZ completely took over his body.
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I already answered to you yesterday why she didn't use it on DMS Kakashi...
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As for not using it on Sakura, Pre DMS Kakashi and Obito, then they were simply not significant enough to be on her radar. All she was concerned with was Naruto and Sasuke.
@Bold We have Kaguya's actions to confirm Naruto is immune and even if Kaguya is dumb, BZ is not. I mean if Naruto really was susceptible to IT then IT was the best technique to use considering it would've one shot Naruto and suck his chakra at the same time but we all know she didn't use IT. She considered killing him over IT which if really worked would've given her what she was after without any hassle.
It doesn't matter how many times this thread is created there is NO evidence Naruto is not immune to IT. Kishi has never stated Naruto is not immune to it. Everyone claiming Naruto is not immune to IT is fanfic.
I will say again, Sasuke claiming (assuming) Naruto is not immune to IT is not fact. Sasuke didn't even know how IT works and he don't know how RSM works. He assumed the rinnegan alone would be enough to cancel IT and he was proven wrong.
Naruto is in the similar situation as Sasuke when it comes to dealing with IT. They both possess half of the powers needed to cancel IT. That alone means he has to power to effect IT. The only difference is we know for fact Sasuke is immune to IT while Naruto is in the unknown.
The problem is the fan logic around here. A character (Sasuke) makes statements about how a jutsu (IT) works. Is proven to be wrong, yet people still takes all of his statements to be fact.
I will say again, Sasuke claiming (assuming) Naruto is not immune to IT is not fact. Sasuke didn't even know how IT works and he don't know how RSM works. He assumed the rinnegan alone would be enough to cancel IT and he was proven wrong.
Naruto is in the similar situation as Sasuke when it comes to dealing with IT. They both possess half of the powers needed to cancel IT. That alone means he has to power to effect IT. The only difference is we know for fact Sasuke is immune to IT while Naruto is in the unknown.
The problem is the fan logic around here. A character (Sasuke) makes statements about how a jutsu (IT) works. Is proven to be wrong, yet people still takes all of his statements to be fact.
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But according to you uchiha fanboys only a Rinnegan user can counter it. Black Zetsu might be a piece of Kaguya, but he doesn't have a Rinnegan, neither did Obito or the Edo Hokages. So how did 6 non-Rinnegan users counter a technique that can (according to you) only be countered by a Rinnegan?
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Dead people aren't ordinary humans so they're in a different category altogether since they're just souls attached to a dead body. BZ isn't human either, he's immortal and he'd taken over Obito's body. He's also a part of Kaguya and was the one that formulated the plan. Heck he's even immortal just like her and the Edo so the same rules dont apply to him does he even have a chakra network?
Only a like for like comparison would be valid dont let fanboying blind you. In other words a confirmation or an actual implication in either the manga or databook of immunity just like we have for Sasuke.
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Deflecting? Your fanfic suggests Naruto>>>Sakura, whilst manga suggests Sakura>>>>Naruto, who should I believe I wonder? If you had a straight answer to OP you wouldnt have brought a character irrelevant to this discussion, proving you dont have one, especially when thier are more than 6 panels proving superiority over your fave.^^^You can't prove he isn't.
He also said this :
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Then look what happened :
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Conclusion?
Sasuke's word isn't law.
No one can prove that IT affects or doesn't affect Naruto or that he isn't/is capable of defending himself from IT. Thus IT can't be used in debates against Naruto.
Then there's the fact that people say that only Rinnegan can counter IT, yet BZ, Obtio and The Edo's were unaffected.
Only trolls will push the notion that Naruto gets hit with it. And are we really about to take the guy who repeatedly says that Sakura =Naruto/Sasuke, seriously?
Strongest doesnt mean unbeatable. An ant could be weaker than elephant does that mean this elephant cant be defeated with a poisonous bite strong enough? Sasuke never said hes absolutely invincible which is immunity to defeat. Posted Proof in OP. Go read.
Naruto was. Sasuke wasnt. Tomoe Rinnegan is a never before seen ocular Power. Asuras power existed back then naruto got said power copy pasted.
Now you're backpedaling? First it was only Rinnegan users, and now it's plus dead people? That still doesn't explain how they were not effected by a Genjutsu that penetrates everything, making no differentiation between dead or alive. Animals were affected as well and they're not human, nor do they have the Rinnegan, so that excuse isn't going to work. Where did you get that from? Where did you get these rules don't apply to Black Zetsu and Edo Tensei kages from? You'd rather make outrageous assumptions, then admit that Rikudo users like Naruto, Sasuke, Obito, Black Zetsu (because of Kaguya) and Madara and Kaguya herself are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.
Which is further proven by Hamura a non-Rinnegan user not being effected by it, when Kaguya used it. Nor can you explain how a Rinnegan and Bijuu chakra are needed to cast Infinite Tsukyomi and to cancel it. But go on the assumption on Sasuke's guess statement (which was proven wrong) that only a Rinnegan user is capable of countering it.
Manga shows Rikudo users (Rinnegan users or non-Rinnegan users) are not effected by Infinite Tsukyomi.
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In all the time i've been reading on this particular topic (not many times though.. don't care that much about Naruto or Sasuke) this thread has the best arguments supporting the fact that Naruto just might be immune. I myself have always thought he wasn't btw.
I'm not saying its for certain though.. but from my perspective, the arguments do have some substance if they are looked at without bias. The bold below actually makes it even more of a compelling case imo.
I'm not saying its for certain though.. but from my perspective, the arguments do have some substance if they are looked at without bias. The bold below actually makes it even more of a compelling case imo.