This doesn’t even make sense, how will Obito control the Bijuu if he doesn’t have Edo Tensei puppets? I’m pretty sure his sharingan will only control one bijuu at a time. Aside from that though, I don’t think Kabuto stands a chance without Edo Tensei.
Each biju in total has used their tailed beast bomb 2 times in total one separate and the other in conjunction. That's roughly the power of 10 mountain busting tailed beast bomb that Tobi was able to make each biju exert. Accumulate all of their output together and you know that the explosion that they did against Bsm Naruto would be much greater than that, hence my reason for that scan.
As for slightly bigger, no. It's be exactly that size for valid reasons being.
Each biju in total has used their tailed beast bomb 2 times in total one separate and the other in conjunction. That's roughly the power of 10 mountain busting tailed beast bomb that Tobi was able to make each biju exert. Accumulate all of their output together and you know that the explosion that they did against Bsm Naruto would be much greater than that, hence my reason for that scan.
As for slightly bigger, no. It's be exactly that size for valid reasons being.
No, that was BM naruto not bsm, and kurama on his own equaled 5 of them, a feat son goku cannot replicate. Therefore its at best a little over half. 60%
No, that was BM naruto not bsm, and kurama on his own equaled 5 of them, a feat son goku cannot replicate. Therefore its at best a little over half. 60%
My bad, I meant Bm naruto. Bsm naruto had 7 biju chakra and Bm naruto had Son goku chakra.
As for the bold part that's completely wrong. No single biju equal 5 bijus in fire power even if one is stronger than the other. Hachibi thought that Kyubi was going to use equal force but instead he aimed it low to bounce the sphere.
My bad, I meant Bm naruto. Bsm naruto had 7 biju chakra and Bm naruto had Son goku chakra.
As for the bold part that's completely wrong. No single biju equal 5 bijus in fire power even if one is stronger than the other. Hachibi thought that Kyubi was going to use equal force but instead he aimed it low to bounce the sphere.
There's nothing indicating that he was using sons chakra.
They are the same
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regardless of how he angled it, and the angling in and of itself was simply to change where it detonated, it doesnt retcon hachibi's former statement of it being equal in power.
Kurama is the exception. Hes proven time and time again that his raw power/chakra greatly outclasses that of his contemporaries. Even at 50% kurama can rapid fire out more tailed beast bombs than that of hachibi (5 vs 4 respectively(100% kurama is 12). And even as a imperfect jin limited to 4 tails kurama was able to use tbb in v2 something hachibi thought was impossible despite being a perfect jin himself.
Kurama matches the power of 5 tailed beasts, and that's without charging it something they had to do beforehand.
regardless of how he angled it, and the angling in and of itself was simply to change where it detonated, it doesnt retcon hachibi's former statement of it being equal in power.
Kurama is the exception. Hes proven time and time again that his raw power/chakra greatly outclasses that of his contemporaries. Even at 50% kurama can rapid fire out more tailed beast bombs than that of hachibi (5 vs 4 respectively(100% kurama is 12). And even as a imperfect jin limited to 4 tails kurama was able to use tbb in v2 something hachibi thought was impossible despite being a perfect jin himself.
Wrong and taken way out of contexts.
1. Hachibi used 5 biju bombs just like Kurama did, he was saving his last one because it was all part of the
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2.The VoTe battle was 11 biju bombs and to use those were taxing on Madara's chakra since he's controlling the Tailed Beast.
3.The imperfect jin limited 4 tails kurama thing that you're talking about is not a Biju bomb it's just a biju blast. Biju bombs destroy mountains.
4.As for Kurama he's admitted that both him and hachibi has the most chakra of the 9.
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Kurama matches the power of 5 tailed beasts, and that's without charging it something they had to do beforehand.
That's wrong because 5 beast is too much. If that was even remotely true then he should have no business getting his ass kicked by the Ten Tails along with Hachibi.
force
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noun
1.
strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement.
"he was thrown backward by the force of the explosion"
synonyms: strength, power, energy, might, effort, exertion;
just in case you wanna play the semantics game power is right there listed as a synonym.
Wrong and taken way out of contexts.
1. Hachibi used 5 biju bombs just like Kurama did, he was saving his last one because it was all part of the
Not only is this false(since madara's chakra isnt going into the tailed beast ball, just the blade he sticks in them), it does nothing to change the point. 11 bombs rapid fired in 1 panel. a far greater amount than that of 4 or 5. Something any other tailed beast has not shown to replicate.
3.The imperfect jin limited 4 tails kurama thing that you're talking about is not a Biju bomb it's just a biju blast. Biju bombs destroy mountains.
So youre proving my point then. If kurama has the most chakra of the 9 then son cannot replicate kurama's feats -_-
That's wrong because 5 beast is too much. If that was even remotely true then he should have no business getting his ass kicked by the Ten Tails along with Hachibi.
Assumption, he's going up against 7 tailed beasts plus fragmentary chakra from both himself and gyuki, even if we look at it by number of tails, its 28 tails worth of chakra(so to speak) vs a mere 17. Naturally i wouldnt look at it that way, but there's nothing that states just because he matched 5 beasts, he'll be able to match more than 7.
Yes there is, any time Naruto is using biju powers:
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force
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noun
1.
strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement.
"he was thrown backward by the force of the explosion"
synonyms: strength, power, energy, might, effort, exertion;
just in case you wanna play the semantics game power is right there listed as a synonym.
No just stop, playing synonym games isn't going to help your case. He literally did not say that the kyubi is going to use equal power or force, he was guessing. Look at the question mark behind hid sentence.
Don't play stupid
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is a seperate technique from a standard tailed beast ball.
He shot four
Tried to dodge the laser then protected himself:
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The tailed beast ball he used afterward isn't apart of the barrage. Therefore him known limit is 4.
Are you retarded? He clearly used 5 biju bombs. It was literally all part of the plan,
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. When he used the hurl he sacrificed an arm he already had the biju bomb in his mouth. The reason why Naruto wasn't used for this plan is because he can't substitute a cloak like the Hachibi.
In total Hachibi fired 5 biju bombs and so did Kurama before shortly after they both temporarily ran out of chakra.
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To say that Hachibi is limited to 4 biju bombs is out right stupid considering the fact that he used 5 biju bombs in total even if it was 30 seconds later, him and kurama still used the same amount.
Don't every argue this again because you look like a dumbass for saying that.
Not only is this false(since madara's chakra isnt going into the tailed beast ball, just the blade he sticks in them), it does nothing to change the point. 11 bombs rapid fired in 1 panel. a far greater amount than that of 4 or 5. Something any other tailed beast has not shown to replicate.
Technically speaking a tailed beast bomb is determined by its damage output.
This is a bijubomb:
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Its explosion was about the size of gyuuki.
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is also a bijuu bomb, its charged size dwarfs kurama.
This too is a tailed beast ball:
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The only requirement in seen in all 3 examples. the positive and negative chakra ratio.
Bm Naruto used a biju bomb, comparing the ball to before detonation is stupid because the ball itself is suppose to be smaller than the mouth.
4 tailed naruto did not use a biju bomb, biju bombs are larger sphere shape bombs capable of blowing up a mountains. There's many different type of beams in the series that we've even see killerbee used before.
So youre proving my point then. If kurama has the most chakra of the 9 then son cannot replicate kurama's feats -_-
Kurama said that he and Hachibi had the most chakra and neither of them equal up to 5 bijus. That's just outright silly.
Assumption, he's going up against 7 tailed beasts plus fragmentary chakra from both himself and gyuki, even if we look at it by number of tails, its 28 tails worth of chakra(so to speak) vs a mere 17. Naturally i wouldnt look at it that way, but there's nothing that states just because he matched 5 beasts, he'll be able to match more than 7.
I don't know where you get this stupid logic considering the output of each biju isn't going to be their maximum potential. Tobi is still controlling the output of those biju bombs. The 5 beasts used biju bombs 2 times each in total while Kurama only used one.
That and you also have to realize that Killerbee is there aiding Naruto as well. So if Hachibi and Kurama are worth 5 bijus each or even 4 bijus each then they should have no business losing to the juubi at all.
For a Full Kurama to be worth 5 bijus of chakra would mean that he can shoot 20 biju bombs of chakra in one setting before launching 20 more. That's just illogical.
literally none of those scans indicate naruto is using their chakra. All it indicates is that he has it.
When he uses their chakra he asks them.
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or they offer it:
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No just stop, playing synonym games isn't going to help your case. He literally did not say that the kyubi is going to use equal power or force, he was guessing. Look at the question mark behind hid sentence.
its two sentences -_- With equal force is its own sentence and not apart of the question.
Are you retarded? He clearly used 5 biju bombs. It was literally all part of the plan,
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. When he used the hurl he sacrificed an arm he already had the biju bomb in his mouth. The reason why Naruto wasn't used for this plan is because he can't substitute a cloak like the Hachibi.
After he shot the four there is no bomb in his mouth -_- Not to mention you clearly see the last bit of positive chakra go into the bomb when he comes out of kamui. Meaning he formed it when he got there.
In total Hachibi fired 5 biju bombs and so did Kurama before shortly after they both temporarily ran out of chakra.
but his barrage is limited to 4.
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To say that Hachibi is limited to 4 biju bombs is out right stupid considering the fact that he used 5 biju bombs in total even if it was 30 seconds later, him and kurama still used the same amount.
Don't every argue this again because you look like a dumbass for saying that.
The bold is what's important. that 30 second differential means it's not apart of the barrage, therefore that put his barrage at a lower number than kurama.
The underline is the crap someone posts when they realize their wrong. I'll accept your concession.
Not only is this false(since madara's chakra isnt going into the tailed beast ball, just the blade he sticks in them), it does nothing to change the point. 11 bombs rapid fired in 1 panel. a far greater amount than that of 4 or 5. Something any other tailed beast has not shown to replicate.
look at the fckin scan. In the second page bottom left panel he creates kurama's head and the bomb is indeed
smaller than kurama's mouth. When it explodes its about the size of gyuuki, something far smaller than a mountain.
4 tailed naruto did not use a biju bomb, biju bombs are larger sphere shape bombs capable of blowing up a mountains. There's many different type of beams in the series that we've even see killerbee used before.
I don't know where you get this stupid logic considering the output of each biju isn't going to be their maximum potential. Tobi is still controlling the output of those biju bombs. The 5 beasts used biju bombs 2 times each in total while Kurama only used one.
That and you also have to realize that Killerbee is there aiding Naruto as well. So if Hachibi and Kurama are worth 5 bijus each or even 4 bijus each then they should have no business losing to the juubi at all.
For a Full Kurama to be worth 5 bijus of chakra would mean that he can shoot 20 biju bombs of chakra in one setting before launching 20 more. That's just illogical.
I love how you highlighted that but paid no attention to the rest of what i posted.I clearly said i don't look at it like that in the very next sentence.
Idk where youre getting your numbers from, but it doesnt change kurama matching the combined efforts of 5 bijuu.
He doesn't need to ask them in order for him to use their chakra.
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Even when extracting Obito:
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Naruto didn't ask for bijus when he used their chakra to extract Obito and he didn't ask to use their chakra when undoing Infinite Tsukuyomi. The only time he would ask is when using their bloodline limit power/Secret art powers thanks to the Light Seal he had in his hand. Now that he doesn't have it, he will no longer be able to ask for biju blood line limit/secret art rasenshurikens or heal people anymore like he did Gai and kakashi.
its two sentences -_- With equal force is its own sentence and not apart of the question.
It's still in the same context of questioning :|
"With equal force. Naruto's going gonna cancel it out?" Is still a question. Tf are you going to argue about now? Even if it's two sentences the the subject matter is still naruto unless it has a semi colon between "force" and "naruto."
Just stop, it's still a question.
After he shot the four there is no bomb in his mouth -_- Not to mention you clearly see the last bit of positive chakra go into the bomb when he comes out of kamui. Meaning he formed it when he got there.
In total Hachibi fired 5 biju bombs and so did Kurama before shortly after they both temporarily ran out of chakra.
Your trolling is stupid and annoying. His barrage is not limited to 4 if he already used 5 biju bombs in total. :|
I don't care what excuse you have to give, the manga is still the manga. There's no difference between the two since they all used up the same amount of chakra. Cut the dumb talk or else I'm done with you.
The bold is what's important. that 30 second differential means it's not apart of the barrage, therefore that put his barrage at a lower number than kurama.
The underline is the crap someone posts when they realize their wrong. I'll accept your concession.
Yes, that was for something else I copied in another thread. Ignore it
look at the fckin scan. In the second page bottom left panel he creates kurama's head and the bomb is indeed
smaller than kurama's mouth. When it explodes its about the size of gyuuki, something far smaller than a mountain.
It didn't explode if it's still a black sphere. A biju bomb the size of Hachibi would be way greater than a mountain blast.
And for the bold part it would prove my point about Kurama not being equal to 5 bijus
Too bad he didn't otherwise they he wouldn't of had to lift the bomb
I love how you highlighted that but paid no attention to the rest of what i posted.I clearly said i don't look at it like that in the very next sentence.
Idk where youre getting your numbers from, but it doesnt change kurama matching the combined efforts of 5 bijuu.
I love how you assumed that I didn't read the rest of the post when I actually did.
Pay attention here because I'm suprise that you didn't get the math for this one.
Tobi made 5 bijus use a biju bomb 2 times which means that's there's 10 potential biju bomb power if they didn't combined the last one. What Naruto has is Half of Kurama and a piece of Son goku's chakra. So to add Yin Kurama the other half of Kurama would mean a Full Kurama would have the ability to shoot 20 biju bombs (!0+10) in one setting.
If you read properly you would've been able to see that without me explaining it to you again.
So again. Kurama will never matched 5 biju's chaka whether you like it or not
