[Discussion] BREAKING NEWS! Dragon's and Akainu's bounty

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That's fine as long as the Manga doesn't say he is a pirate or a member or joined than I'm happy cause that means he's just helping them, not a part of their crew.
He’s a part of their crew. The manga never said shiliew joined his crew when they first met up and look st what happened.
Am I the only one who still thinks that Aokiji has always been (or will at least end up) working with Dragon and The Revolutionaries?

Kuzan is not the type of character to just join under someone like Blackbeard.. for what reason? I think it's to keep a close eye on him and his crew..

and when the Gorosei are defeated and the WG is taken over by Dragon and the Revolutionaries, all the true marines that stand for REAL justice will still stay and Aokiji will probably become FA or an Admiral again..

at least, that's what I'm hoping will happen.. lol
I wish that was the case but look at the damage that was done in Dragon’s hideout. Kuzan had to be responsible.
 

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Well no, he joined the crew. Just like I put on the scan, it says that Aokiji is assisting the crew. There was no mention of "just helping" the crew in the manga, that's just your wording and not Oda's.
Allying and Assisting means to serve whatever purpose that is attending to.

Well you're wrong on that apart because BB thanked Shiliew for "allying" with the BB crew and as you can see now he's 2nd division captain of BB's crew. Aokiji joined the Blackbeard pirates. Aokiji is one of my favs too but it's already confirmed so there's not much you can dispute about that.
Imagine thinking that "assisting" isn't the same thing as "helping."
 

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I find it hard to believe that Blackbeard can solo the whole revolutionary army.
You said damage done to Dragon’s hideout not defeat the revolutionary army hence I was talking about the island not Dragon’s men...also Blackbeards’s crew is more than strong enough if they can use the element of surprise just right....
 

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You said damage done to Dragon’s hideout not defeat the revolutionary army hence I was talking about the island not Dragon’s men...also Blackbeards’s crew is more than strong enough if they can use the element of surprise just right....
Oh my bad. I was implying that Blackbeard took out the revolutionary crew I didn’t literally mean the island per say. I know that with the Gura gura fruit he can do whatever he wants to the island but in terms of the strength of the crew, I wouldn’t think the rest would do well against Dragon’s people.

It’s not like Blackbeard has a Dogtooth, Cracker, Marco, Jozu, or Jack powered people in his crew from what we’ve seen since Sabo made quick work of their division 1 leader.
 

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Oh my bad. I was implying that Blackbeard took out the revolutionary crew I didn’t literally mean the island per say. I know that with the Gura gura fruit he can do whatever he wants to the island but in terms of the strength of the crew, I wouldn’t think the rest would do well against Dragon’s people.

It’s not like Blackbeard has a Dogtooth, Cracker, Marco, Jozu, or Jack powered people in his crew from what we’ve seen since Sabo made quick work of their division 1 leader.
This dude man lmfao
 

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Oh my bad. I was implying that Blackbeard took out the revolutionary crew I didn’t literally mean the island per say. I know that with the Gura gura fruit he can do whatever he wants to the island but in terms of the strength of the crew, I wouldn’t think the rest would do well against Dragon’s people.

It’s not like Blackbeard has a Dogtooth, Cracker, Marco, Jozu, or Jack powered people in his crew from what we’ve seen since Sabo made quick work of their division 1 leader.
We haven't seen anything from the ID prisoners in his crew though, I'm looking forward to Pizarro(and seeing if Vandere1ch was right about a Franky connection) and Shot. Plus I'd like to think the rest of BB's core crew despite Burgess will have good showings, Lafayette/Laffitte? was able to get the drop on a room with Doffy and Mihawk in it.
 

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We haven't seen anything from the ID prisoners in his crew though, I'm looking forward to Pizarro(and seeing if Vandere1ch was right about a Franky connection) and Shot. Plus I'd like to think the rest of BB's core crew despite Burgess will have good showings, Lafayette/Laffitte? was able to get the drop on a room with Doffy and Mihawk in it.
Pizzaro might be top 3 under Blackbeard's command.
There has to be a reason why he has Jack/Kaido's design
 

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We haven't seen anything from the ID prisoners in his crew though, I'm looking forward to Pizarro(and seeing if Vandere1ch was right about a Franky connection) and Shot. Plus I'd like to think the rest of BB's core crew despite Burgess will have good showings, Lafayette/Laffitte? was able to get the drop on a room with Doffy and Mihawk in it.
In the Jaya arc their mysterious presence and hype did make them look so formidable but as soon as the straw hats came in post timeskip the gap between those two crews started closing in faster than I expected.
We didn’t expect Luffy to beat a Yonkou First mate. That’s already speculated of being Teech’s level pretimskip.
Then there’s his crew. We didn’t see anything from them like I said before (which riker’s dumbass failed to comprehend), so what can we go by? Burguess the 1st division captain is suppose to be the setting stone for the rest of the division captain who holds the equivalent title as pre timeskip Marco and Dogtooth.

So how does that make Blackbeard’s crew look like?
It seems like Blackbeard and Kuzan are carrying that crew. I hope I’m wrong about the crew’s strength and Sabo’s way stronger than people think he is to justify.
 
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In the Jaya arc their mysterious presence and hype did make them look so formidable but as soon as the straw hats came in post timeskip the gap between those two crews started closing in faster than I expected.
We didn’t expect Luffy to beat a Yonkou First mate. That’s already speculated of being Thst level pretimskip.
Then there’s his crew. We didn’t see anything from them like I said before (which riker’s dumbass failed to comprehend), so what can we go by? Burguess the 1st division captain is suppose to be the setting stone for the rest of the division captain who holds the equivalent title as pre timeskip Marco and Dogtooth.

So how does that make Blackbeard’s crew look like?
It seems like Blackbeard and Kuzan are carrying that crew. I hope I’m wrong about the crew’s strength and Sabo’s way stronger than people think he is to justify.
I don't know where people rank Sabo but he's definitely a strong character. I knew Luffy was gonna beat Kata the minute he took him into the mirror, Oda made me question a few times but I'd have put my money on Luffy 9 of 10 in that one, at the start of this I thought he'd have a better chance against BM then he showed to have too though.
 
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Lafitte has mythical zoan siren fruit? Wings, plus girl makeup like a siren, and sirens use there voice to send people into illusions and Lafitte makes illusions. Possible?

Edit : illusion/hypnotize w.e it is he does
 
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Lafitte has mythical zoan siren fruit? Wings, plus girl makeup like a siren, and sirens use there voice to send people into illusions and Lafitte makes illusions. Possible?

Edit : illusion/hypnotize w.e it is he does
Lafitte is from skypeia. That’s why when Teech told Luffy that skypeia must surely exist, Luffy and Zoro said something about “‘it’s not He’...‘It’s They probably’...’” to Nami.

Actually wait, I .
 

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Lafitte has mythical zoan siren fruit? Wings, plus girl makeup like a siren, and sirens use there voice to send people into illusions and Lafitte makes illusions. Possible?

Edit : illusion/hypnotize w.e it is he does
Lafitte is from skypeia. That’s why when Teech told Luffy that skypeia must surely exist, Luffy and Zoro said something about “‘it’s not He’...‘It’s They probably’...’” to Nami.

Actually wait, I .
Rikudou Tobi wrong again. Skypeian's have wings on their backs. Lafitte's arms turned into wings. Nothing indicates he's from Skypeia.

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