[Predictions] Naruto Manga 507 Discussion and 508 Predictions
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After showing some skills of a special shinobi, usually he dies (like Asuma Sarutobi ). Also there has been a lot of time since someone important died, so i think it's time (last one Jiraya ).
What i'm saying is that, i'm afraid that Kisame will kill Guy sensei, and the Naruto will kill him...
I hope that doesn't happen, but unfortunately i think it's totally possible...
Waiting your opinion...!!!
What i'm saying is that, i'm afraid that Kisame will kill Guy sensei, and the Naruto will kill him...
I hope that doesn't happen, but unfortunately i think it's totally possible...
Waiting your opinion...!!!
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I also vote every chapter 5 due to the people that vote it a 1 for a stupid reason, there should be balance
About 3 if a vegetarian is stranded on an island where there aren't edible plants but there are some animals would he just starve? If you have an important goal (e.g. survival) you'd do what was necessary to achieve it. Madara just didn't want to let anyone know it was him until the time was right.
And about 4 didn't Tobi say that Kisame was the person closest to him?
These are just thoughts though, they don't prove anything
Now as for my opinion on the chronology of the events:
First of all was Kisame killing his comrades. It seems to me that there was some small gap between that and his taking possession of Samehada as his face looks older when he talks to Yagura. That was more than 16 years ago. Then after some time the Land of Water undergoes a revolution and Yagura, controlled by Madara is killed, Madara forced to leave it. A few years after he has changed his hairstyle and unseals the Nine-tails. The fourth stops the fox and Madara reappears some time before the Uchiha massacre and Itachi gets trained by him. Now, the Mizukage, Mei Terumi is in her 30s (source naruto wikia). That means she could have been old enough 17 or 18 years ago which is a likely time for the death of Yagura. In case anyone tries to disprove this I can back up my words by:
1) 30s doesn't mean 30 years old, it means somewhere between 30 and 39 years old.
2) If she is 32 now that would make her at least 14 years old 17-18 years ago. And with her two kekkei genkai even if she was 10 I think she would be made mizukage xd After all, age doesnt matter as much as power. Proof - Itachi being an ANBU captain which is not just an ordinary ANBU at the age of 13. And the ANBU are hand-picked by the Kage according to their individual capabilities and special skills (naruto wikia again).
I think this should shed some light on the chronology of events.
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Really? Proof is factual evidence, nothing we know of related to it is a fact, thats why everyone else is making predictions. Post it here anyways.
"Uchiha Madara" attacked Konoha, then controlled 4th Mizukage and then created Akatsuki. Here are the details:
1. According to the 3rd Naruto Databook, Kisame is 32 yo, meaning he was only 16 when "Madara" attacked Konoha. From the 507 drawings of Kisame, it's possible that he was 16 when he met Ibiki, but definitely older when he met with "Madara".
2. "Madara" was a very patient and single minded person. If he wants something he would do anything to make it happened, or until he is defeated. He wanted to destroyed Konoha 16 years ago, but when he met with Kisame he talked about the moon eye plan. "Madara" aims at a much bigger goal which is world domination. If he had aimed to do the moon eye plan 16 years ago, he would not need to destroy Konoha.
3. Somehow "Madara" got found out which forced him to flee again. Something happened to the 4th Mizukage, so the 3 tails got free without a new host. Kisame also deflated and become missing nin, but Kisame didn't know about "Madara" whereabout.
4. "Madara" somehow met Pain and used Pain to create Akatsuki, told Pain to recruit Kisame, Sasori, Oro, etc.
5. "Madara" met Itachi and recruited him to Akatsuki.
1. According to the 3rd Naruto Databook, Kisame is 32 yo, meaning he was only 16 when "Madara" attacked Konoha. From the 507 drawings of Kisame, it's possible that he was 16 when he met Ibiki, but definitely older when he met with "Madara".
2. "Madara" was a very patient and single minded person. If he wants something he would do anything to make it happened, or until he is defeated. He wanted to destroyed Konoha 16 years ago, but when he met with Kisame he talked about the moon eye plan. "Madara" aims at a much bigger goal which is world domination. If he had aimed to do the moon eye plan 16 years ago, he would not need to destroy Konoha.
3. Somehow "Madara" got found out which forced him to flee again. Something happened to the 4th Mizukage, so the 3 tails got free without a new host. Kisame also deflated and become missing nin, but Kisame didn't know about "Madara" whereabout.
4. "Madara" somehow met Pain and used Pain to create Akatsuki, told Pain to recruit Kisame, Sasori, Oro, etc.
5. "Madara" met Itachi and recruited him to Akatsuki.
Im really disappointed about this chapter. A)since when is guy stronger than one of the strongest akatsuki? this totally bummed me out. at first, akatsuki folks took several guys to take down and were uber strong, and then guy neutralizes the one that took out at least a few jinchuriki (spelling error?) in one friggin' attack? thats SO lame. if Guy's such a beast then how come akatsuki was ever a threat at all? I thought him and kakashi were almost exactly on even footing. Two people in hidden leaf who arent kages or jinchuriki or anything all that special are strong enough to oneshot akatsuki!?! lame.
B) what was up with the 3 tails being sucha pansy? if madara's so strong that he can completely control a kage level jinchuuriki, then why was akatsuki ever necessary in the first place? why didnt he just call up pain and be like "hey, ive hypnotized all the jinchuriki and marched them back to our lair so now we can suck out the bijuus and I'll do my moon eye thing"
C) why did kishi take out the two more central characters/jinchuriki only to have guy show up out of the blue for a sketchy reason and then be a total beast? naruto punches kisame and makes him cough blood, and NARUTO ends up more affected because his foots in a wall? I was mildly amused by how bee was taken out, but im still annoyed that one of the akatsuki, the "beast without a tail" no less, was taken out by some unheard of guy from naruto's village in one attack.
I really liked kisame as a character, and now it looks like hes gonna get taken out in the lamest way ever.... itd be cool if naruto could somehow redeem him like he redeemed nagato, cuz otherwise this will be the most disappointing ending to a good character in the entire series (in my opinion)
sorry if that annoyed you unduly, feel free to try to make me feel better about the chapter. Id like not to be this bothered by it.
B) what was up with the 3 tails being sucha pansy? if madara's so strong that he can completely control a kage level jinchuuriki, then why was akatsuki ever necessary in the first place? why didnt he just call up pain and be like "hey, ive hypnotized all the jinchuriki and marched them back to our lair so now we can suck out the bijuus and I'll do my moon eye thing"
C) why did kishi take out the two more central characters/jinchuriki only to have guy show up out of the blue for a sketchy reason and then be a total beast? naruto punches kisame and makes him cough blood, and NARUTO ends up more affected because his foots in a wall? I was mildly amused by how bee was taken out, but im still annoyed that one of the akatsuki, the "beast without a tail" no less, was taken out by some unheard of guy from naruto's village in one attack.
I really liked kisame as a character, and now it looks like hes gonna get taken out in the lamest way ever.... itd be cool if naruto could somehow redeem him like he redeemed nagato, cuz otherwise this will be the most disappointing ending to a good character in the entire series (in my opinion)
sorry if that annoyed you unduly, feel free to try to make me feel better about the chapter. Id like not to be this bothered by it.
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Hokage Madara
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OMG they are showing tobi's face,,
yes..
C'mon,, a lil up!!
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HOLY SHIT!!
*kisame bit his own tongue*
uuuuaaaaahhhhh!!!!
yes..
C'mon,, a lil up!!
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HOLY SHIT!!
*kisame bit his own tongue*
uuuuaaaaahhhhh!!!!
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I rate it 5/5....
Here's what I'm thinking..... Pein and Madara were on 2 different paths.
Pein was the leader of Akatsuki, and was gathering the Jinchuuriki for peace. Tobi/Madara/??? wanted them for his "Moon's Eye Plan". I don't believe that T/M/? ever met or manipulated Pein. Personally, I don't think that Pein could have been manipulated because he had the Rinnegan (which, don't bash - was the greatest of the dojutsu). I'd need to look it up, but Tobi was touted as the "new" guy during an Akatsuki meeting. (Confirmation... anyone, anyone?) Now, maybe Zetsu &/or Kisami joined Akatsuki somewhere along the lines, in order to gain affiliation because Pein was gathering the Jinchuuriki's. Something the T/M/? was wanting, as well. Getting/putting the timeline (if someone hasn't put it together already) together would be kickass and solve many theories that have been laid out.
Gai is a total BADASS!! I hope that he doesn't go down in the next chapter.... Kisame is history because (well, Kishi has done it before where the last phrase doesn't match the beginning of the next manga, but...) it states, "THE LAST ROAR OF A MAN WHO FINALLY FOUND A PLACE WHERE HE BELONGED!"
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That chapter was badass! Now i see why Kisame called him the 4th mizukage on accident xD The kid looking mizukage was so cute x3
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I don't think that tobi is madara. Remember when kabuto met tobi. He used his resurection jutsu to bring back some people and the final person shocked tobi who asked where he got the body. Maybe it was madara's real body. Tobi's just pretending to be madara to cover up his true identity. Perhaps danzo? After all tobi only shows one eye and danzo had one eye with sharingan.
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A. Just because Kisame was very strong doesn't mean he is invincible. Make no mistake that Guy is strong, but Kisame downfall was not because Guy is stronger. It's a judgement error on Kisame part a fatal one at that, he assumed that Guy used ninjutsu which must use chakras. Kisame practically let himself killed by Guy because of it. If he dodge the afternoon tiger, then Guy will be in trouble.
B. We don't know the details of the event yet, a lot of things can be used to explain it. "Madara" could use a mind altering poison, or he could kill the 4th Mizukage and then somehow replace it with puppet, or maybe he also mastered a shapeshifting jutsu (similar to the one Akatsuki use) to create the replacement.
C. Obviously, Bee will be in trouble if he had to fight Kisame. Only Guy and Naruto have a greater chance to beat Kisame. Guy only use Taijutsu which immune to Kisame's chakra absorbing jutsu and Naruto if he let Kisame absorb the sage mode chakra.
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