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So i was thinking the other day when watching the anime again...who is the stronger ninja really?

UNDER THEIR OWN POWER...meaning no tailed beasts which excludes Naruto and kaguya and bee. No EMS or anything above so Sasuke, madara Kakashi are out. No stolen abilities either which takes away orochimaru, and Kabuto for instance

This leaves Shinobi Like Might Gai, Minato Namikaze, Hashirama Senju, Tobirama, Itachi Uchiha, Jiraiaya, Tsunade, (Sakura possibly...) A and The third Raikage, gaara (Still controlled sand after losing a jinchurriki), Ohnoki,

this isn't a versus match and if i forgot anyone please mention them! But who is the strongest?

For me the top 5 would be as follows

NOT IN ORDER:

Might Gai
Hashirama Senju
Minato Namikaze
Itachi Uchiha
Tobirama
 

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Might Gai- yes
Hashirama Senju-senjutsu
Minato Namikaze- yes
Itachi Uchiha -sharingan
Tobirama -yes
already that IS narutos power, if he didnt have kurama he would be similar to hashirama
 
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Might Gai- yes
Hashirama Senju-senjutsu-
Itachi Uchiha -sharingan
Tobirama -yes
already that IS narutos power, if he didnt have kurama he would be similar to hashirama

Hashirama- he is superior to almost EVERYONE else with just wood style and senjutsu is NOT outside help unless used in Master Jiraiyas case

Itachi Uchiha-his OWN power until it becomes EMS where he would need another persons eyes.
and no its NOT narutos power...he wasn't BORN with Kurama just as uchiha aren't BORN with EMS....and he can have Sage mode here...that's the max hes got but hes just not the top 5 material with SM only
 
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Itachi, Hashirama, Muu, Onoki, Might Gai, Deidara, Pain Nagato.


Itachi'd defeat above tho.
Thanks for being the first to actually give me a legit thought haha but I don't think Itachi could beat Might gai if he used all 8 gates and he would lose to Hashirama as well otherwise he would decimate everyone else...nagato is a toss up
 

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"Know the Girl! Know US!"

Its Sakura and you know it,
when she was able to damage Kaguya of her own accord, without any effort, she earned this title.
The fact that she was complaining about being low on chakra before Kaguya even appeared, and even more so after, yet still managed to damage her with Taijutsu, a feat only rivaled by the 8th gate, which is a sucided blow, makes Sakura and her strength unparalled....something that 6Paths Naruto with his unrivaled tailed beast strength couldn't even begin to compare too...no shade to the 5 tails

And The Senju and Uzumaki are canceled, because Sakura replicated their jutsu with ease.
Itachi cant really be included because Sasuke was the prime Uchiha and needed RinneSharingan to face the likes of Kaguya. Even Madara needed Senju Healing prowess to become his whole self with Rinnegan.

Sarada is the only one who can snatch this title from Sakura.
 
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Good list I agree with it and Itachi solos.

You forgot Sakura she was the only non rokudo to be able to handle Madara Sama's TSB rod and still carry on fighting.
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"Know the Girl! Know US!"

Its Sakura and you know it,
when she was able to damage Kaguya of her own accord, without any effort, she earned this title.
The fact that she was complaining about being low on chakra before Kaguya even appeared, and even more so after, yet still managed to damage her with Taijutsu, a feat only rivaled by the 8th gate, which is a sucided blow, makes Sakura and her strength unparalled....something that 6Paths Naruto with his unrivaled tailed beast strength couldn't even begin to compare too...no shade to the 5 tails

And The Senju and Uzumaki are canceled, because Sakura replicated their jutsu with ease.
Itachi cant really be included because Sasuke was the prime Uchiha and needed RinneSharingan to face the likes of Kaguya. Even Madara needed Senju Healing prowess to become his whole self with Rinnegan.

Sarada is the only one who can snatch this title from Sakura.
She's currently physically strongest by feats, faster by feats,......Databook one says she'll be a top level Genjutsu user one day which I believe she'll accomplish by the nearing of Boruto Part 1.

Part 2'd be devastating; going by this scale.
 

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She's currently physically strongest by feats, faster by feats,......Databook one says she'll be a top level Genjutsu user one day which I believe she'll accomplish by the nearing of Boruto Part 1.

Part 2'd be devastating; going by this scale.
Sasuke himself stated that her genjutsu affinity was stronger than his 2 Tomoe Sharingan naturally. And Sakura wasn't even affected by the genjutsu at the Chunnin exams to even care about it. The hallway genjutsu didn't even work on her, and Kabuto's genjutsu wasn't a big deal for her, she sensed it before it could do anything. And the databook supports Sasuke's claim as his genjutsu only surpassed her 3.5 when he learn Sharingan Genjutsu.

3.5 is probably the highest you can attain without actually being a genjutsu caster, because both Sakura and Diedera have eyes that are somewhat immune to most genjutsu, the only difference is Deidera trained his to be that way and Sakura's was natural. Diedera even broke free of Sharingan Genjutsu. And Sakura was damn near immuner to genjutsu by the time of the last as she wasn't affected by a tensigan cast genjutsu that captured an perfect Jinc (naruto) and a byakugan user (whos eyes are said to see through genjutsu)

You know i just did all this wanking of Sakura, only to realize that you were talking about Sarada. lol.
But yeah this is partially the reason why Sarada's genjutsu is so powerful with just a one tomoe, because in base she is Sakura. she probably naturally have a 3.5 too
 

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Sasuke himself stated that her genjutsu affinity was stronger than his 2 Tomoe Sharingan naturally. And Sakura wasn't even affected by the genjutsu at the Chunnin exams to even care about it. The hallway genjutsu didn't even work on her, and Kabuto's genjutsu wasn't a big deal for her, she sensed it before it could do anything. And the databook supports Sasuke's claim as his genjutsu only surpassed her 3.5 when he learn Sharingan Genjutsu.

3.5 is probably the highest you can attain without actually being a genjutsu caster, because both Sakura and Diedera have eyes that are somewhat immune to most genjutsu, the only difference is Deidera trained his to be that way and Sakura's was natural. Diedera even broke free of Sharingan Genjutsu. And Sakura was damn near immuner to genjutsu by the time of the last as she wasn't affected by a tensigan cast genjutsu that captured an perfect Jinc (naruto) and a byakugan user (whos eyes are said to see through genjutsu)

You know i just did all this wanking of Sakura, only to realize that you were talking about Sarada. lol.
But yeah this is partially the reason why Sarada's genjutsu is so powerful with just a one tomoe, because in base she is Sakura. she probably naturally have a 3.5 too
Sakura's uniqueness stems from the fact; she has numerous extras albeit currently passive in nature.

She could logically beat any enemy if we analyze the entirety and propagative aspect of her talent.

She scared the holy hell out of Gaara in his Bijuu form; something which should not be taken lightly; as visualized by the immense down-pour of sweatiness in his face at her sight despite being in a utterly maniacal mode.....if she devolops this specific ability of hers; her battle strength'd increase exponentially.

It's almost as if her presence as Sharingan-like suppressive qualities in terms of fear inducing literal monsters like Jinchuuriki Bijuu.

She could suppress the Curse Mark demonic qualities which let Sasuke run wild with just a hug; stimulating the fact she is wholesomely capable of manipulating out of control creatures with a lack of moral conscience with just her words and presence.


Something, Danzo had to go all out his freaking way to gather Hashirama Tree's cells and numerous Sharingan just to attempt manipulation.


Another factor I've read on contributing to her precision prowess is: Sasori's compliment on her possessing the eyes of a hawk; which read through all of his attacks without needing Chiyo's support nearing the end...foreshadows a type of precognition-like ability.


Rest, as per what you've said is extremely underrated cause the factor in which she punched her horn and gravitated her down-wards is exceptionally splendid; taking into account, her lack of chakra (which has been proven fact: reduces speed and reflexive quality..) and overusing Byakugou which excruciates the cellular energy of her body greatly yet she managed to pull out a tactic which RSM Naruto in his fresh state could not: is incredibly admirable.

All in all, She could potentially be rewarded as the strongest shinobi in Naruto Verse by feats alone and the most talented if we go by prodigious quality and hype.

And yes, I was speaking bout' Sakura Lol.
 
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