Sasuke DID NOT

[Animegoin]

According to what was said earlier in the manga he in fact did have something to fight off tsuki. I get what your saying though, so your thinking he might of used a diff genjutsu to make it seem like tsuki? See but wouldn’t it make sense that sasuke COULD break it
Though? Being his brother, Indra incarnate, yada yada lol

You sound like Uverdore9 right now lol

A partner is needed to break genjutsu and in this context, indra is a partner who's ocular powers could've broken Sasuke out along with curse seal body chakra boosts. Still couldnt.

Edit: ROFL at the guy above this post also.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

You sound like Uverdore9 right now lol



Edit: ROFL at the guy above this post also.

And what’s the issue with mine? Is he not Indras incarnate? Would transmigrant be a better word? I was speaking in hypotheticals, and listing off possible reason, don’t really see the issue there. Nor do I see any similarity in me saying he’s an indra incarnate, and him saying indra is an actual partner. So what’s your issue?

 

[Animegoin]

And what’s the issue with mine? Is he not Indras incarnate? Would transmigrant be a better word? I was speaking in hypotheticals, and listing off possible reason, don’t really see the issue there. Nor do I see any similarity in me saying he’s an indra incarnate, and him saying indra is an actual partner. So what’s your issue?

Lol the both of you were initially speculating that being Indra’s reincarnation would boost the likeliness of Sasuke in breaking genjutsu. Albeit, Uverdore9 is on a whole different level but the similarity is there.

BTW, am I the only one that doesn’t get a notification most of the time when quoted?

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Lol the both of you were initially speculating that being Indra’s reincarnation would boost the likeliness of Sasuke in breaking genjutsu. Albeit, Uverdore9 is on a whole different level but the similarity is there.

BTW, am I the only one that doesn’t get a notification most of the time when quoted?

No I didn’t get one either the first one you sent, I got one for this one though, it’s pretty random.

It’s a wild thought, that’s why I just threw it out there.

 

[Animegoin]

No I didn’t get one either the first one you sent, I got one for this one though, it’s pretty random.

It’s a wild thought, that’s why I just threw it out there.

Yeah I get that but you don’t want to stray too deep into his way of thinking. This is an excerpt of his initial comment from the same thread I cited earlier:

Also backed by the fact Indra's Spirit couldn't break Sasuke out, added with curse seal potent chakra.

 

[Calpal]

Sasuke broke it, but Itachi let him U_U

we see Itachi purposely not give his all in that fight.

 

[Uverdore9]

BZ confirmed that 3T user can still beat MS user because doujutsu is just a tool after all, and it all depends on who wields it. Databook further confirmed BZ's words. And what's the most important, yes we know Itachi held back, but none of us can tell and prove during which points of the fight he did. You can't prove that specifically tsukuyomi was weakened.



No he doesn't say "tsukuyomi and regular genjutsu". He said "illusions" and by illusions he was referring to Itachi deceiving Sasuke till the end.

EDIT: deleted part of my reply by accident, here it is:



Question mark is in the first sentence. DB is speculating how Sasuke managed to do it(was it because of hatred?). Next sentence ends with a dot.

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Actually bro, Tobi said like this: You didnt see through him at all. Nor any of his illusions.

The first sentence = Itachi's deceptiveness.

The second sentence = Itachi's literal illusions.

Hence the word "Nor" used there.

And the Databook contradicts itself.

If I'm asking you a question and answering it myself arent I contradicting my self?

Because I asked you a question because I dont know the answer.


Itachi contradicted himself too.

Itachi said to kakashi that a sharingan and blood can beat him but then he says to Sasuke in the flashback that Mangekyou Sharingan is needed to break Tsukuyomi.

About Amaterasu Itachi knew he'll use snake shedding because of the curse seal.

BZ didnt know itachi was acting nor that itachi had a excruciating disease.

He came up with an explanation on spot.

 

[Umari Senju]

@bold, yes in fact it does. If I have the strongest (or an unbreakable) grip and I fight with a friend at call it 50%(really anything under 100% proves the point) and he gets loose from my grip, well he didn't actually break the strongest grip, see what I'm saying? Because the only instance we have of it being broken comes from a moment when it wasn't being performed at 100% capacity leaves the door open to the possibility that it's "break" was given to the opponent and that at 100% capacity may be unable to be broken.

While I agree with what you are saying. It doesn’t really suggest he held back in Tsukuyomi. I mean he was pulling out his eyes. I’d like to add that Itachi himself was dying during that fight. His sickness was in its final stages as was his eyes going blind. We honestly don’t know if, had he been 100% at health and used 100% of his power behind Tsukuyomi that Sasuke wouldn’t have been able to break it. He still met the requirement behind breaking it(being a blood relative)

Plus Sasuke is protected by plot. 50% or 100% Sauce would have broken free regardless as he was meant to defeat Itachi to progress the story.

But I digress. I more or less agree with your point nonetheless.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Tsukuyomi's complicated Itachi controls the perception of time and Space within it. In mere moments he can make you experience anything and overload your brain with experiences over and over. Depending on what it can range from putting you in a coma(kakashi and Sasuke) to outright killing you. Can anybody with a Sharingan really break it? I think not it would take something like MS which would allow the higher level of perception necessary to at least counter it somewhat.

 

[King Of Pop]

There was a good theory out there on another website about why Sasuke didn't break Tsukuyomi:

The fact people choose to make theories rather than just go with what the manga showed and stated is just.. it is hilarious to say the least

 

[chopstickchakra]

While I agree with what you are saying. It doesn’t really suggest he held back in Tsukuyomi. I mean he was pulling out his eyes. I’d like to add that Itachi himself was dying during that fight. His sickness was in its final stages as was his eyes going blind. We honestly don’t know if, had he been 100% at health and used 100% of his power behind Tsukuyomi that Sasuke wouldn’t have been able to break it. He still met the requirement behind breaking it(being a blood relative)

Plus Sasuke is protected by plot. 50% or 100% Sauce would have broken free regardless as he was meant to defeat Itachi to progress the story.

But I digress. I more or less agree with your point nonetheless.

I was just going off of the person I replied to's words where he said he held back, whether he actually did is another issue . Also " I mean he was pulling out his eyes." But we know he actually wasn't that was still part of the act to push Sasuke's development, we know Itachi never had any true intention to steal his brothers eyes, in fact his intent from the start of that battle was the opposite, to leave Sasuke HIS eyes. I agree we don't know if he still could have broke out at 100% that's why I brought it up, to show it's not a definitive answer.

 

[Master Omi]

The fact people choose to make theories rather than just go with what the manga showed and stated is just.. it is hilarious to say the least

The Manga (Kakashi) implied Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken, when Itachi uses it to his fullest.