When did sisterhood become lesbianism

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I am not trying to bash or speak ill of lesbians. I fully support LGBTQ communities. Don’t shitpost about being lesbian or gay is wrong.


In literature, sisterhood, is basically girls uniting. However, every time i see it, it has lesbian connotations or people just perceive it to be. A good example is the movie Frozen. Everyone and their mother yeller lesbians. But why?

You can say the Liberal media is destroying family values or whatever or it’s just now talking about an issue no one ever addressed before. I don’t know.

What are your thoughts?

For an anime example, I saw Black Rock Shooter. No lesbian content whatsoever. My bro is like the lesbian subtext is too much.
 
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I think it comes mostly from men, particularly American men. The standard pushed in general media and society for men were that showing your emotions were something weak men do, and eventually that became associated with effeminate and gay men. I think eventually, this got melded together, so when men who buy into these standards see this in women, they, at some level, jump to the conclusion that they must be lovers.
 

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because people are pushing their ideology on others.

let's take a look at our modern literature, movies, TVs, etc. More and more are now trying to appeal to the LGBTQ community. I do mean appealing.

They make these progressive relationships and they are baseless (I mean no background nor hints that they were homosexuals or the relationship or the reveal of are unexplained)

It is just the whole mentality has changed. If best bros or sis (I mean friendship-wise not blood relation) were to hangout in public, they would be seen as a homosexual couple. The same as if best bro AND sis (again, friendship and not blood relation) were to hangout in public, they could be easily be mistaken as a couple.

Think of it as hanging out before puberty. You can go to dinner and watch a movie without it having be a date but now, it basically is now that you are an adult.

public perception changed and that influences people. Sometimes best friends would turn gay/lesbian due to it and at that point, it's whatever floats their boats but it does break all the arguments of "you are born homo" or "I didn't choose to be born homosexual" because of that.
 

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but it does break all the arguments of "you are born homo" or "I didn't choose to be born homosexual" because of that.

No it doesn't because no one is born with a sexuality. Your sexuality is something you develop over time and it's beyond your control.
 

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Show me research that says otherwise.

Everything doesn't need "facts" to declare as right or wrong.

There's something called "conscience" which unconciously let's us know what is right and wrong.

Being attracted to same gender is not some thing which exists in nature naturally.

Even religions debunk this attitude, famous religions.
 

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I gagged when I read the tittle to your thread XD
 

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No it doesn't because no one is born with a sexuality. Your sexuality is something you develop over time and it's beyond your control.

well I did say that it does break those arguments.

also sexual preferences are something you develop but not sexuality.

our reproductive systems are evolved in such a way that you have no choice but to hetero and restricted to one specie.

we aren't like fish where you can just turn female to ensure that you can make babies



nor are we ever be transexuals as the procedure only alter our appearance. If a woman undergoes a procedure and "becomes" male, her reproductive system is surgically mutilated to resemble a male's reproductive system and vice versa.

to OP: sisterhood/brotherhood becoming homo - it's basically heavily influenced by the public or others. They say "encourage" but it can be forced much like how your parents "encourage" you to get out of the house and date by setting you up on a date.. or a job..

I suppose it is not as intrusive as those examples above but that basically how it goes. Public opinion/glorification which then leads to curiosity then experimentation.

Of course, the main factor may also be fear. Most of these can be derived from security. A friend that has always been there for you now becoming an option. This is especially prevalent to ones who had a bad break up and decide to try their very supportive best friend and one thing may lead to another.
 

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Everything doesn't need "facts" to declare as right or wrong.

There's something called "conscience" which unconciously let's us know what is right and wrong.
No, you do indeed need facts to assert whether or not something is right or wrong, not this bullshit.

Being attracted to same gender is not some thing which exists in nature naturally.
Excluding the countless species of animals that have exhibited homosexual behavior, right?

Even religions debunk this attitude, famous religions.
Don't use bullshit as your source.
well I did say that it does break those arguments.

also sexual preferences are something you develop but not sexuality.

our reproductive systems are evolved in such a way that you have no choice but to hetero and restricted to one specie.

we aren't like fish where you can just turn female to ensure that you can make babies



nor are we ever be transexuals as the procedure only alter our appearance. If a woman undergoes a procedure and "becomes" male, her reproductive system is surgically mutilated to resemble a male's reproductive system and vice versa.

to OP: sisterhood/brotherhood becoming homo - it's basically heavily influenced by the public or others. They say "encourage" but it can be forced much like how your parents "encourage" you to get out of the house and date by setting you up on a date.. or a job..

I suppose it is not as intrusive as those examples above but that basically how it goes. Public opinion/glorification which then leads to curiosity then experimentation.

Of course, the main factor may also be fear. Most of these can be derived from security. A friend that has always been there for you now becoming an option. This is especially prevalent to ones who had a bad break up and decide to try their very supportive best friend and one thing may lead to another.

Sexual preference IS sexuality...
 

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Everything doesn't need "facts" to declare as right or wrong.
You pretty much gave away any credibility your argument could have held, all because of that one sentence.
 

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Sexual preference IS sexuality...

that's quite a misconception.

it is close but not really.

say that I prefer red heads over brunette and blonde over red head, is that sexuality?

of course not. sexuality is something that a person is hardwired by biology to have. Meaning it dictates who you mate with. If you have a penis, it goes into a vagina and vice versa.

also please do not misunderstand the purpose of ***. it is not for pleasure but for procreation. orgasm is nothing more but an incentive to repeat the act.

Such as hunger is the drive to eat (horniness for ***), satisfaction (orgasm for ***), but sustaining energy for the body to grow (baby for ***) is its primary objective is why we eat.
 

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that's quite a misconception.

it is close but not really.

say that I prefer red heads over brunette and blonde over red head, is that sexuality?
Yes it is. That is an aspect of your sexuality. Sexuality is the human capacity for sexual attraction period.

***·u·al·i·ty
ˌsekSHo͞oˈalədē/Submit
noun
capacity for sexual feelings.
"she began to understand the power of her sexuality"
synonyms: sensuality, sexiness, seductiveness, desirability, eroticism, physicality; More
a person's sexual orientation or preference.
plural noun: sexualities
"people with proscribed sexualities"
synonyms: sexual orientation, sexual preference, leaning, persuasion; More

Human sexuality is the way people experience and express themselves sexually.[1][2] This involves biological, erotic, physical, emotional, social, or spiritual feelings and behaviors.[3][4]

also please do not misunderstand the purpose of ***. it is not for pleasure but for procreation. orgasm is nothing more but an incentive to repeat the act.
Wrong. Given that human beings' capacity for pleasure is naturally rooted in both biological and psychological aspects, *** for pleasure is just as natural as *** for procreation.
 

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No, you do indeed need facts to assert whether or not something is right or wrong, not this bullshit.
You do know that instinct is >>>>> facts, right?

^ quote from albert einstein.


Excluding the countless species of animals that have exhibited homosexual behavior, right?

Humans are evolved species unlike some little animals who don't possess the complicated brain structure to process feelings and thoughts in the right manner like we, humans do.


Don't use bullshit as your source.
The reason I quoted religion is to give out the fact that it's not just me who thinks that way: several millions upon millions of religion followers and conscience studyiers, think like I do.


Don't you think majority has a say in things: at least on things related to the human biological functions?
 

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You do know that instinct is >>>>> facts, right?

^ quote from albert einstein.
That would be highly incorrect.

Humans are evolved species unlike some little animals who don't possess the complicated brain structure to process feelings and thoughts in the right manner like we, humans do.
This wasn't your argument though. You didn't see homosexual behavior was below humanity, you said it wasn't natural. You said that homosexual behavior has no basis in nature. The fact that thousands of species exhibit homosexual behavior proves this incorrect.


The reason I quoted religion is to give out the fact that it's not just me who thinks that way: several millions upon millions of religion followers and conscience studyiers, think like I do.
So because millions of you are wrong, that gives being wrong some kind of credence?

Don't you think majority has a say in things: at least on things related to the human biological functions?
No, facts has the say.
 

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because people are pushing their ideology on others.

let's take a look at our modern literature, movies, TVs, etc. More and more are now trying to appeal to the LGBTQ community. I do mean appealing.

They make these progressive relationships and they are baseless (I mean no background nor hints that they were homosexuals or the relationship or the reveal of are unexplained)

It is just the whole mentality has changed. If best bros or sis (I mean friendship-wise not blood relation) were to hangout in public, they would be seen as a homosexual couple. The same as if best bro AND sis (again, friendship and not blood relation) were to hangout in public, they could be easily be mistaken as a couple.

Think of it as hanging out before puberty. You can go to dinner and watch a movie without it having be a date but now, it basically is now that you are an adult.

public perception changed and that influences people. Sometimes best friends would turn gay/lesbian due to it and at that point, it's whatever floats their boats but it does break all the arguments of "you are born homo" or "I didn't choose to be born homosexual" because of that.

Yeah no that’s not how it happens. No one changes to homosexual relations because they hang out too much and public perception does not influence same *** relations. It happens because there was already an attraction between the two that was never addressed until later in life. This logic is faulty. Ignore whatever you were reading or watching.

OT: it’s kind of human nature to make preconceptions about things that many don’t understand. It’s ironic when heterosexuals make conclusions about homosexuals without taking into account what actual homosexuals have to say.

It works both ways mind you. Homosexuals often have misconceptions about heterosexual men and women without actually sitting down to discuss these things in detail. False information gets thrown around and then we have what you are discribing OP, things takennout of context such as sisterhood or brotherhood. It really does come down to our own insecurities.
 
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Everything doesn't need "facts" to declare as right or wrong.

There's something called "conscience" which unconciously let's us know what is right and wrong.

Being attracted to same gender is not some thing which exists in nature naturally.

Even religions debunk this attitude, famous religions.

@Bold: Wtf Lol? Yeah, actually it does. That's what facts are, otherwise can people can make assumptions that aren't true yet claim them as truth.

Case in point: Being attracted to the same gender does in fact happen naturally in nature and not just in humans. There are gay animals and insects too.

So your "conscience" is clearly wrong about what the truth is.
 

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This is very generalizing and quite dumb. These people whom you speak of that assume any two or more group of females have homosexual connotations may just be something that you keep choosing to see. The title of this thread is confusing and only sees through the lenses of individuals who think that any display of females bonding has to be homosexual. Sisterhood has nothing to do with homosexuality, it's just a state in which females support each other like sisters around a common goal of some sort. I'm not bashing you or anything but your view on this sounds as if you're trying to make sense out of a senseless opinion.

Personally when I look at females bonding, I just see it as an act of mutual respect or sisterly love and that's it. Their sexual orientation doesn't come to my mind unless actually stated in the story, although I find most females in general to be heterosexual. I do get agitated sometimes when some people think that literally any female who even slightly shows interest in another female just have to be lovers! I totally get you on that. When it becomes forced it's annoying. Both anti-homosexuals and pro-homosexuals do this stupid shyt. It needs to stop.
 

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I think what your saying is in media use sisterhood with synonymous with lesbianism and I personally haven't seen that but if you just mean pushing gay culture in media an
d i think in some law terms it's pushing but I don't think asking for representation is pushing everyone not going to agree or should be expected to but should give everyone fair space to live there lives from all corners
 

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Yeah no that’s not how it happens. No one changes to homosexual relations because they hang out too much and public perception does not influence same *** relations. It happens because there was already an attraction between the two that was never addressed until later in life. This logic is faulty. Ignore whatever you were reading or watching.

OT: it’s kind of human nature to make preconceptions about things that many don’t understand. It’s ironic when heterosexuals make conclusions about homosexuals without taking into account what actual homosexuals have to say.

It works both ways mind you. Homosexuals often have misconceptions about heterosexual men and women without actually sitting down to discuss these things in detail. False information gets thrown around and then we have what you are discribing OP, things takennout of context such as sisterhood or brotherhood. It really does come down to our own insecurities.

That's not necessarily true most people look for place to fit in or be different no matter it is remember all types people in high school and lower you think all of them are truly being them and what they want. Also from a immediate perceptive there's college experimentation culture where girls are pressured or just want to entice guys by doing lesbuan acts that's a thing. Also vulnerable woman talked into things you don't think vulnerable guys can be. Everything we are isn't necessarily what we want we can be enticed and even be pressured to do things even if we don't have sexual interest for it.
 
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