The potential Sarada would have if she was Karin's daughter would be endless!

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Fanfics after fanfics.
Stop quoting me if you do not want to accept facts and with more fanfics. Secret technique needs special chakra = Facts. Byakugou = Secret forbidden technique = Facts. If you cannot accept facts then it's hopeless. I do not have to bring manga scans of each and every individual having special chakra when Part 1 already cleared this concept and this fanfics BS assumptions are not changing that.
 

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Stop quoting me if you do not want to accept facts and with more fanfics. Secret technique needs special chakra = Facts. Byakugou = Secret forbidden technique = Facts. If you cannot accept facts then it's hopeless. I do not have to bring manga scans of each and every individual having special chakra when Part 1 already cleared this concept and this fanfics BS assumptions are not changing that.
There are no facts to be accepted. Your premise is a non-sequitur.

She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique ≠ If it's a Hidden Technique, it requires special chakra.

Either way, we're derailing the thread so let's just agree to disagree
 
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No I was clarifying she is indeed an object when you brought up that argument of her being used as some object for genes.
With fans like you Karin doesn't need haters. I didn't bring that word "objectification" in argument exactly either. You yourself went on that justification.

Atleast he would not try to kill her like Sasuke.
Did he really intend to attack and kill his own daughter or struck her mindlessly and injured her?

You know technically even SasuSaku was a marketing ploy. There was no real development to speak about to make this a untouchable pairing. Therefore me choosing to pick Karin rather for genes or not should be no problem. As for Karin she knew how to use her chains so she could easily teach them to Sarada. I also said Orochimaru has a library of jutsues she could learn. Her learning Uzumaki seals from them should be no issue. No need for technology when it could have been changed from the start.
It's not marketing ploy as such but the plot from the start- People will also disagree on your comment about the pairing justification - but that's dealt in pairing threads too often. I will leave that out. However seeing bringing Sasuke back to village was Naruto's promise to Itachi too along with her original promise to Sakura and his own friendship and feelings in the matter. It was part of Naruto's journey. Marriage with Sakura sets up a link in the villege again- I said it previously too but you choose to ignore this part in your quest for soome genes you still want to not overpower your hero.

Leaving him with Oro and not only marrying Karin but letting her be with Oro and leave his daughter in Oro's care to get more powered up doesn't reflect on Sasuke well. YOu are even removing him from the picture while disconnecting his family from Konoha. Meaning Naruto fails. You are crapping all over his achievements-In your version- he fails to bring his friend back without which he didn't think himself worthy - so what Naruto achieved besides Hokage seat- he even missed his own hokage ceremony after compromising his own promises in this alternate version. Then Konoha gets destroyed once again. Hmm... But of course you get karin's gene which you still don't wish to be enough for Sarada to surpass Boruto. And you still think your version is working out for better...


]Lol I was making this solely a Sarada thread. I don't give a shit about this Mitsuki. And 3 year old argument? I see plenty of these rehashed threads here. I don't get why you don't have a problem with those ones and instead come for this one.
You not giving a shit about a character doesn't change the fact that he exists in the verse. Oro's son whom he sent to Konoha wishing the best for him and here you wish Sasuke to not only marry Karin but let his wife and daughter in Oro's care permanently.

Anyway - I hope you manages to contain your dejection and salt spreading since obviously the story is already been written and it's not taking that road.
 
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There are no facts to be accepted. Your premise is a non-sequitur. She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique ≠ If it's a Hidden Technique, it requires special chakra.

Either way, we're derailing the thread so let's just agree to disagree
Going against the Databook? Concession accepted.
 

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Where is it stated it is not secret technique? Read the damn manga.
Are you even reading before responding? I asked a simple question, "Where in the DB does it state Secret/Hidden Techniques require special chakra"

You claimed that Byakugo is a secret technique, therefore it must require special genetics and heritage, but that's false.

First you tried to use the manga with a panel where Shikamaru says, "She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique" and then interpreted it as "All Hidden Techniques require special chakra", but like I said, that's a non-sequitur.

She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique ≠ If it's a Hidden Technique, it requires special chakra

And now you're trying to hide behind the DB by implying it says things it doesn't. Stop making stuff up. This is what the DB actually says

Hiden

They are many techniques taught within a clan or specific regions
Also called Hijutsu, Hiden are highly confidential techniques, inherited by a clan that lives in a certain region. They hardly require talent or a specific bloodline, but generally, they’re limited to the clan they belong to. In some cases, the technique itself is considered secret and, due to that, it’s not known how many Hijutsu exist in the Hidden Leaf Village.

It explicitly states they hardly require a specific bloodline or talent. Stop bending things to fit your narrative
 
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Are you even reading before responding? I asked a simple question, "Where in the DB does it state Secret/Hidden Techniques require special chakra"

You claimed that Byakugo is a secret technique, therefore it must require special genetics and heritage, but that's false.

First you tried to use the manga with a panel where Shikamaru says, "She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique" and then interpreted it as "All Hidden Techniquees require special chakra", but like I said, that's a non-sequitur.

She's creating special chakra, it must be a Hidden Technique ≠ If it's a Hidden Technique, it requires special chakra

And now you're trying to hide behind the DB by implying it says things it doesn't. Stop making stuff up. This is what the DB actually says

Hiden

They are many techniques taught within a clan or specific regions
Also called Hijutsu, Hiden are highly confidential techniques, inherited by the members of a group or a clan that lives in a certain region. They hardly require talent or a specific bloodline, but generally, they’re limited to the clan they belong to. In some cases, the technique itself is considered secret and, due to that, it’s not known how many Hijutsu exist in the Hidden Leaf Village.

It explicitly states they hardly require a specific bloodline or talent. Stop bending things to fit your narrative
Wow. This guy. Stop twisting facts with your fabricated BS. Learn to read before you quote or stop quoting me.
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Tsunade acknowledged her talent and passed on the technique to Sakura. Read the top right side of the Databook. Where did your eyes see it is not a secret technique lol? Fix comprehension skills lol. Byakugou requires talent because it is not just a secret technique alone, it is also a forbidden technique.
 

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Wow. This guy. Stop twisting facts with your fabricated BS. Learn to read before you quote or stop quoting me.
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Tsunade acknowledged her talent and passed on the technique to Sakura. Read the top right side of the Databook. Where did your eyes see it is not a secret technique lol? Fix comprehension skills lol. Byakugou requires talent because it is not just a secret technique alone, it is also a forbidden technique.
Again, are you even reading before responding? I'm not saying it isn't a secret technique, I asked you a simple question, "Where in the DB or manga is it stated that all Secret/Hidden Techniques require special chakra or genetics" You're probably just intentionally ignoring the question because I find it hard to believe you can misunderstand a sentence as simple as that twice in a row
 
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When Hyuuga fans get berated by a mod pedantically, you know they've gone too far with their bona fide fanfic.
Meanwhile uchiha fans still waiting for these new byakugan feats that surpass the sharingan they've been trolling for about a year now :lmao:
 

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Again, are you even reading before responding? I'm not saying it isn't a secret technique, I asked you a simple question, "Where in the DB or manga is it stated that all Secret/Hidden Techniques require special chakra or genetics" You're probably just intentionally ignoring the question because I find it hard to believe you can misunderstand a sentence as simple as that twice in a row
I see you intentionally like skipping valid points.
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what does this look like to you? Does it look like "Secret techniques can be used by every fodders" to you lol?
 

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I see you intentionally like skipping valid points.
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what does this look like to you? Does it look like "Secret techniques can be used by every fodders" to you lol?
Finally. That's the non sequitur I was talking about. That premise is faulty and I honestly don't know how you haven't realized that on your own

A shinobi that creates special chakra, it's a Secret Technique ≠ All Secret Techniques require special chakra

Anything else?
 
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When Hyuuga fans get berated by a mod pedantically, you know they've gone too far with their bona fide fanfic.
Mods are just like us regular members. They have opinions and their's could be wrong too so don't go on depicting the mods like they're the perfect members who can't make any mistakes cuz they're not just because the thread topic is not to your liking.
And I know you're a typical Sakura fan who has nothing valuable to contribute to the discussion but please do read the OP first. Its not a fanfic but a question, a what if scenario and I agree with the OP but that's just my opinion.
 

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Meanwhile uchiha fans still waiting for these new byakugan feats that surpass the sharingan they've been trolling for about a year now :lmao:
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Seems that's what it's come down to. Their ambassador (their former leader) has even fallen out of employment or he's come back as the new guy? Anyway, he probably couldn't fabricate more fanfic, and so he decided to leave it to the dilettante's to carry on the fanfic business, but they'll be out of commission with how Sharingan keeps getting focus and Byakugan lesser focus (Anime wise).
 

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Finally. That's the non sequitur I was talking about. That premise is faulty and I honestly don't know how you haven't realized that on your own

A shinobi that creates special chakra, it's a Secret Technique ≠ All Secret Techniques require special chakra

Anything else?
Yes it is. Any thing other than that is fanfics made by you to dodge the obvious factual statements stated in Manga. I do not care for that. How did Shikamaru know it was a secret technique? Because she molded special chakra. If someone molds special chakra, it can be classified secret technique, case closed. I can play this sematics reaching all day lol.
 

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Yes it is. Any thing other than that is fanfics made by you to dodge the obvious factual statements stated in Manga. I do not care for that. How did Shikamaru know it was a secret technique? Because she molded special chakra. If someone molds special chakra, it can be classified secret technique, case closed. I can play this sematics reaching all day lol.
You do know you're just exposing yourself now :elmo: That's exactly what I'm talking about. If someone molds special chakra, it can be classified as a secret technique. You're changing that statement to suit your agenda.

Someone molding special chakra can be classified as a secret technique ≠ All secret techniques require one to mold special chakra.

Here's an analogy.

Someone performing a change in chakra nature can be classified as ninjutsu ≠ All ninjutsu require a change in chakra nature

Or are you going to tell me Rasengan isn't ninjutsu?


It isn't that hard to understand.

Honestly can't believe you're trying to say Byakugo requires special chakra, genes and heritage
 
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Mods are just like us regular members. They have opinions and their's could be wrong too so don't go on depicting the mods like they're the perfect members who can't make any mistakes cuz they're not just because the thread topic is not to your liking.
And I know you're a typical Sakura fan who has nothing valuable to contribute to the discussion but please do read the OP first. Its not a fanfic but a question, a what if scenario and I agree with the OP but that's just my opinion.
Lmao, like I ever insinuated that. All I know is it takes a bs post for a mod to step in like that and even go back and forth with the member. Mods are usually indifferent to troll threads, and close it if it's gone completely off topic, but this one is way past that tier of trash, it requires rebuttals, from mods even. Smh
 
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