Sharingan is Base level for Uchiha and Kirin uses no chakra

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And what you're insinuating is that Sasuke used a large amount of chakra to shape manipulate Kirin which is equally wrong.

I never said a large amount

stop putting words in my mouth when you can't win an argument

I said he used chakra to do three things
 

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So, are we done with the "Kirin needs no chakra" thing?.

On the other topic, now seeing what "base" meant, no. Sharingan is not base, as other people said, if he's not using sharingan, that's less than base?
 

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I never said a large amount

stop putting words in my mouth when you can't win an argument

I said he used chakra to do three things

Because manipulating the amount of lightning energy that can literally pulverize a mountain by altering its structure requires an insane amount of chakra which is the main point. Because of that, it's more likely to assume that it's a natural byproduct of the jutsu.
 

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does it?

or are you pulling this out of your ass

do you also think lightning's natural form is a dragon in the narutoverse?

Yes it does.

Controlling chakra uses chakra; controlling an absurd amount of energy that would pulverize a mountain would by default require a lot of chakra. Seriously, do you even take a second to use common sense or are you pulling words out of your ass at this point? This literally doesn't even need to be explained here.
 

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Yes it does.

Controlling chakra uses chakra; controlling an absurd amount of energy that would pulverize a mountain would by default require a lot of chakra. Seriously, do you even take a second to use common sense or are you pulling words out of your ass at this point? This literally doesn't even need to be explained here.

again is a dragon a normal form for lightning

YES OR NO


you were wrong with my prior posts, now you will be wrong here
 

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No problem, I made the same point on page 1 in a summarised manner it's a shame I was forced to repeat it. People forget to actually be out of chakra as in go to 0 the person would be dead.

Nah. You only go die when your stamina also goes zero. Chakra is energy. You'll just be tired if you're out of it.
 

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Because manipulating the amount of lightning energy that can literally pulverize a mountain by altering its structure requires an insane amount of chakra which is the main point. Because of that, it's more likely to assume that it's a natural byproduct of the jutsu.

Not really, even in real life manipulating lightning only takes a metal rod, and that's >1.21 gigowatts of powa being manipulated there.
 

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I think it’s the heart that the sharingan draws power from. “The Eyes That Reflect The Heart”. Obito didn’t lose a loved one. He was in combat.
 

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I think it’s the heart that the sharingan draws power from. “The Eyes That Reflect The Heart”. Obito didn’t lose a loved one. He was in combat.

The heart and it's feelings trigger an emotional response which release the special chakra in the brain and you have the Sharingan.
 
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Reading through again, the sharingan being base seems incorrect too. This is considering Madara was able to kill adult Senju without Sharingan.
 

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Kirin doesn't require chakra. There's roaring SFX in manga when Kirin's created. It's some how some what a bit sentient. The word tame isn't coincidently used there. When Eight Tails claimed Naruto had to control the Nine Tails he used the word Tame. Naruto controls Nine tails with force. No. Tame essentially means controlling without a saddle.
 

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Just because he said that he was out of chakra doesn't mean that he was completely drained. Otherwise he would've been dead. What could've Sasuke used to direct and shape manipulate the lighting other than the only source that all the characters of this manga use for their magical powers that is chakra?
 

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At the very least lets agree that directing Kirin uses even a minimum of chakra and Sasuke is no shaman than can conjure a shoot lightning out of sheer willpower.

Now, before we continue with the sharingan = base, what is base for all of you?
 

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Just because he said that he was out of chakra doesn't mean that he was completely drained. Otherwise he would've been dead. What could've Sasuke used to direct and shape manipulate the lighting other than the only source that all the characters of this manga use for their magical powers that is chakra?

At the very least lets agree that directing Kirin uses even a minimum of chakra and Sasuke is no shaman than can conjure a shoot lightning out of sheer willpower.

Now, before we continue with the sharingan = base, what is base for all of you?

He tamed it not control it. Stamina depletion results in death.
 

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NB's done for. People don't accept Manga Facts literally at the same time don't try relating to various creative explanations.
 

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Sharingan and Ice Style are both Kekkei Genkai that need to be "activated". Haku has to merge his wind and water chakra's in order to activate his Ice chakra. Simply because Sasuke's eyes give off a new appearance doesn't change the fact that it's base.

Haku himself didn't always have the Ice Style, it awakened when he was a child due to a moment of duress. Both are Kekkei Genkai, and from what we know, all Kekkei Genkai have to be awakened and activated. It's a part of their DNA and becomes part of their base mode if it is awakened.
 

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calling kirin from the thundercloud requires chakra. Can lee do it? No. Chakra.
 

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You Stfu if you don't have something kind so say may you should just be silent and listen
 

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I sorta disagree. Sharingan would be base for Uchiha just like Hashirama using his wood KKG that drains chakra would still be him in base.

Except most uchihas have sharingan and nobody other than Hashi had wood release from the senju. Sharingan drains the user of their chakra while Hashi's wood dragons drain OPPONENT'S chakra. Completely different. So, no.... sharingan isn't base. Sorry OP, sharingan isn't base. Your thread is wrecked.

Also, by some of the others in here with their idiotic logic, "just because the appearance of the eyes change doesnt mean anything", dafuq?! stop smoking crack, mmmm kay
 
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