Sharingan is Base level for Uchiha and Kirin uses no chakra

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Lol, are you comparing Chidori to manipulating Kirin?

Let's not quibble over semantics all right; Chidori is hardly anything for him. Shinobi can't live without chakra anyways, so if a shinobi claims that their out of chakra (which occurs frequently in the manga), should we doubt him or use common sense and conclude that the shinobi is at a level where they can't use a notable amount of chakra.

Now please stop grasping at straws.
wait stop what you are doing and re-read what you just said

him using chidori was the use of him taming and controlling the said jutsu

again the 3 steps

no one is grasping at straws, rather you don't even know what you are posting


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Base form can be debatable I suppose since people are using different definitions of base level. Base level to me is a character with no enhacements like you said but sharingan is not a mode or state of mind. It is only the Uchiha ocular jutsu and its a genetic trait so to me its a normal power. Not an awakening like you have said.

Sasuke says he's out of chakra and he then continues to use Kirin. Why do you think I question idiots who are saying otherwise. there is no chakra using to guide Kirin. Sasuke tamed lightning naturally. This is a manga fact so arguing with it, is like arguing with the manga. Sasuke is not using his chakra to guide kirin, Sasuke is guiding kirin with his presence.
Lol no buddy, base form is not debatable. It’s either they are in base or they’re not. As far as everything else you had to say, it’s just wrong but you’re entitled to believe whatever you want.
 

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Look at the difference, choji uses a pill that he had to condition his body in order to learn butterly mode. Sasuke only needed to be born and eventually he naturally awakened his sharingan. It can and should be considered that sharingan is a base ability to Uchiha. Similar to any kkg clan born individuals.
Pills were needed to make process more easy for unexperienced Akimichi. War arc Choji used BM via his clan jutsu.
 

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I just did. If you look at the page original page Kirin is activated and the page before you would see the lightning clouds forming above them first. Sasuke raises his hand and a streak of lightning comes to his hand from the storms.

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He's that clown who said shunshin = footspeed. You can't debate with that kind of stupidity.
 

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How do you tame something?

Do I tame a dog by it just deciding to become tame, or do I use physical and verbal means?

Same thing here, he tamed it with his chakra.

Tamed things are now pets or ridden on , etc.. and what do you use to ride them or make them go on a walk? A leach or saddle.


He used his chakra, end of....

Sasuke kept on blabbering in VOTE 2 he "never" had chakra either.


Kirin is him guiding the lightning that is naturally there (or made via temperature manipulation and moisture) with the user's said chakra.


Did this lightning on his hand appear out of nowhere?

I though he didn't HAVE chakra.


Calls it a Jutsu too.
Zetsu claimed that Sasuke tames lightning produced by the atmospheric heat because manipulating that amount of lightning is impossible with someone's own chakra yet you're asserting the contrary that Sasuke managed to do so despite conceding that he literally had no chakra left. We didn't see this dragon manifest until after Sasuke's assertion. Either that's a natural byproduct of the jutsu or Sasuke's literally a fckin chakra god where .1% of his normal reserves is akin to that of the Juubi.

Pick your poison.

"Because this Ninjutsu makes a good use of natural phenomenon, one can invoke it using a small quantity of chakra."

Text taken from the Naruto Second Databook.
 

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"Because this Ninjutsu makes a good use of natural phenomenon, one can invoke it using a small quantity of chakra."

Text taken from the Naruto Second Databook.
You're taking that quote out of context. It requires chakra to set up and that's part of the technique. The dragon kirin don't require chakra to guide that's the point. Don't be like those other clowns. It's simple from the fact Sasuke summoned the lightning into his arm from the sky. Tame =/= control. Tame is controlling without a medium. BZ is a sensor if Sasuke even had little chakra left he would've used word control.
 

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Db says Kirin uses chakra. Manga clearly shows Sasuke's hand light up before he jumps out to guide the lightning. Smh

OP: By your logic are you saying if there just happen to be Thunderheads on one of those rainy days in NV, Sasuke can just raise up his hands and use Kirin with absolutely no chakra at all?
 
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wait stop what you are doing and re-read what you just said

him using chidori was the use of him taming and controlling the said jutsu

again the 3 steps

no one is grasping at straws, rather you don't even know what you are posting


Sigh, this forum, I am out.
Taming said jutsu is not equivalent to literally manipulating its shape to form a dragon.

I'd suggest you reread what you just said.
 

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Taming said jutsu is not equivalent to literally manipulating its shape to form a dragon.

I'd suggest you reread what you just said.
By the way the DB says something like this truly fascinating.
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the sound of thunder destroys the enemy which is kind of contradicting the whole guide thing. So the sound of the dragon is obliterating the enemy. Almost like the dragon turns sentient after fire dragon set up matching the word tame used there rather than control. The dragon weirdly also comes from inside the lightning concentration and we viewers cannot really see it forming into one because of the surrounding lightning.
 

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You're taking that quote out of context. It requires chakra to set up and that's part of the technique. The dragon kirin don't require chakra to guide that's the point. Don't be like those other clowns. It's simple from the fact Sasuke summoned the lightning into his arm from the sky. Tame =/= control. Tame is controlling without a medium. BZ is a sensor if Sasuke even had little chakra left he would've used word control.
I wonder if you think before you type.
 

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"Because this Ninjutsu makes a good use of natural phenomenon, one can invoke it using a small quantity of chakra."

Text taken from the Naruto Second Databook.
People misunderstood the statement of Sasuke bing out of chakra. That jist meant Sasuke didnt have enough chakra to actually use jutsu for combat or produce jutsu for combat. He did however have enoigh to guide the natural lightning.
 

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People misunderstood the statement of Sasuke bing out of chakra. That jist meant Sasuke didnt have enough chakra to actually use jutsu for combat or produce jutsu for combat. He did however have enoigh to guide the natural lightning.
I think we all agree with that. If all that you're claiming is that Sasuke uses a negligible amount of chakra for Kirin, then why the hell are we debating over something so trivial in the first place?
 

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I think we all agree with that. If all that you're claiming is that Sasuke uses a negligible amount of chakra for Kirin, then why the hell are we debating over something so trivial in the first place?
people are saying he used NONE

No problem, I made the same point on page 1 in a summarised manner it's a shame I was forced to repeat it. People forget to actually be out of chakra as in go to 0 the person would be dead.
I mean they think I only say this because it is a Sasuke move but at the same breath I made numerous threads wanting Boruto to have it

I just now the reality and was stating it
 

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I think we all agree with that. If all that you're claiming is that Sasuke uses a negligible amount of chakra for Kirin, then why the hell are we debating over something so trivial in the first place?
I'm not debating anybody on this and I dont think I have either. Essentially Sasuke uses katon and Ama's heat to produce the conditions for natural lightning to form. Once the lightning had formed Sasuke used negligible chakra to guide it. What I said is Kirin itself isn't chakra or composed of chakra but is natural lightning.

people are saying he used NONE

I mean they think I only say this because it is a Sasuke move but at the same breath I made numerous threads wanting Boruto to have it

I just now the reality and was stating it
I think it would be silly to say Sasuke didn't use chakra considering you can see the sparks on his hand in the manga pages. Statements need to be weighed against facts to gain proper understanding.

On the topic of Boruto having Kirin Idk tbh it would be too much of a copy and paste.
 
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