[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 893 Discussion and 894 Predictions

[Waindo]

It was never mentioned that it's hereditary.

 

[Punk Hazard]

It was never mentioned that it's hereditary.

Iva said Luffy was definitely Dragon's son because he had Haoshoku, indicating that it's hereditary.

 

[Waindo]

Iva said Luffy was definitely Dragon's son because he had Haoshoku, indicating that it's hereditary.

I know but it's still a non confirmed speculation.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

If someone made a far fetch theory about Dogtooth being luffy’s brother, I wouldn’t even be mad about it. The level of manliness those two possess is just perfect. Luffy quoted Crocodile about playing dirty and Dogtooth evens the Plainfield by stabbing himself.
Just perfect.

 

[Relostar Devil]

We should expect each Yonkou captain and at least 1 member per crew. We should expect at least 1 marine will have by EOS. Mihawk will likely display it as well for his duels with Shanks to hold any real weight because if Shanks hasn't been using all his skills in their duels then what's the title mean? Assuming the Gorosei actually become villains to fight I expect at least one of them.

Yeah, that's what makes it pretty boring, every top tier has coc which makes it purpose of being extreme rare and strong useless......

 

[Anduril]

I don't think any marine will have COC. When you join an organization like the marines you are actually giving away your spirit as a ruler which goes completely opposite to the freedom of the pirates. I think only the very top like tenryobito or the Gorosei would posess the COC.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I don't think any marine will have COC. When you join an organization like the marines you are actually giving away your spirit as a ruler which goes completely opposite to the freedom of the pirates. I think only the very top like tenryobito or the Gorosei would posess the COC.

What about Garp ? am pretty sure he got one.... or not ?

 

[Anduril]

What about Garp ? am pretty sure he got one.... or not ?

I would say No but Garp has always been quite in control of his will but then again he was completely powerless to act to save his grandson ace. So I think he does not have COC either.

 

[Love Cook]

I don't think any marine will have COC. When you join an organization like the marines you are actually giving away your spirit as a ruler which goes completely opposite to the freedom of the pirates. I think only the very top like tenryobito or the Gorosei would posess the COC.

I don't think it is all about freedom as it is about willpower.

If your believe is justice and it gets trampled on by pirates. I think you can be a passionate marine with COC as well

 

[Caliburn]

I don't think any marine will have COC. When you join an organization like the marines you are actually giving away your spirit as a ruler which goes completely opposite to the freedom of the pirates. I think only the very top like tenryobito or the Gorosei would posess the COC.

The COC has never been directly tied with "freedom", that's a characteristic mostly associated with the Will of D, which as far as we know is something different. The fact that multiple "D's" have joined the Marines, also shows they don't exclude one another either.

The COC one the other hand has been defined as the innate quality to rule over others, which doesn't automatically equate to freedom. For example Dogtooth might be a pirate, but he sure is on Big Mom's leash. In fact BM's crew is so hierarchical and strict that something like freedom is non-existing. It's Luffy's philosophy that a real pirate is someone free, but that's not a universal thought. In fact it seems to be a rather unique concept. Likewise DD might have been a pirate most of his life, he however was born a Celestial Dragon and even tried getting back to Mariejois. He didn't become a pirate because he wanted to, he was forced to.

Also rationally speaking if you would have the drive to "rule", it would make much more sense to join the Marines and/or the World Government than doing something else. As a whole the WG is the highest and most influential organization in the world the likes even the Yonkou can't match. Meaning the higher you would climb up into their organization, the more power you would gain over the world itself and the more...freedom. This is something Smoker specifically mentioned and Garp's and Sengoku's antics also underline this. Why bothering creating your own ladder when there's already an existing one?

The COC is neither good nor evil. So any sense of morality a wielder might have, will be derived from his own personality and experiences. Meaning for example someone who has a strong sense of justice and wants to rid the world of evil, will have a strong urge to join the Marines. Hence I believe Akainu is a strong candidate of having the COC.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't think it is all about freedom as it is about willpower.

If your believe is justice and it gets trampled on by pirates. I think you can be a passionate marine with COC as well

I agree with this. Haki is all about vigor and willpower. It's your drive. A marine with an intense drive towards Justice can definitely have CoC as well.

 

[Sakazuki]

I agree with this. Haki is all about vigor and willpower. It's your drive. A marine with an intense drive towards Justice can definitely have CoC as well.

So sakazuki

 

[Waindo]

The admirals + Akainu might have it? I have a hunch Coby might have a dormant CoC (perhaps brought out by harsh training during the timeskip).

All in all it's stupid to speculate, only pirates demonstrated it 'til now.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

As the chapters go by, I realize that this arc makes less and less sense.

underrated post

 

[LordRaikage]

underrated post

This arc needs to end.......but i like katakuri tho.

 

[Lord Tywin]

So sakazuki

It would be ridiculous to assume that the top navy power doesn’t have coc

 

[Sakazuki]

It would be ridiculous to assume that the top navy power doesn’t have coc

Especially since he is the only one with the balls to move the marine hq into Yonko territory