Hashirama can't beat the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.

[New Dawn]

Kisame can give hashirama a fight but the other 6 are fodder.

 

[Uverdore9]

Hashirama converts his chakra into life force. Where there is no living existence he creates one.

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[Nerosmoke]

Kisame can give hashirama a fight but the other 6 are fodder.

Like the 6th Mizukage?

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I thought you were referring to his ability to gather nature energy, not summon wood(which I think he could underwater).
We've seen Yamato sprout wood from his body and Danzo literally become half tree. I'm sure Hashirama can do the same.

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Kisame when Drunk rips apart Mokuton.

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it should be noted the same attack was able to hold Naruto.

 

[Uverdore9]

Another thing is hashirama's wood is stronger than yamato's.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Like the 6th Mizukage?

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Kisame when Drunk rips apart Mokuton.

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it should be noted the same attack was able to hold Naruto.

It should be noted that Yamato has only restrained Naruto when Naruto was a fodder, that Yamato is a fodder, that Yamato is a knockoff, that Yamato is not Hashirama, that Yamato's wood style is not on Hashirama's scale, and that it is very, very, very unlikely for Hashirama to do that very specific justu mean't for restraining when he has far more powerful justu(even ones specifically for restraining) in his arsenal.

 

[Tonybeeth]

I am going to need links for some of the stuf you claimed here. Hashirama Genjutsu? that is newz to me. and water style as tobirama tech not hashiramas. he has never been shown to be able to use water before and Mokuton is the only thing he has that is high level jutsu he has shown. the 7 Swordsmen are from the same warring states era as Hashirama and byakuren is older so the Swordsmen predate him.



What is he going to do? algae golem?

Hashirama using genjutsu against hiruzen

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And Mokuton is the result of being able to manipulate BOTH earth and water natures

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[Nerosmoke]

Another thing is hashirama's wood is stronger than yamato's.

Kisame was weakend by a 7th Gated guy blast. I think full power Kisame rips wood just fine.

It should be noted that Yamato has only restrained Naruto when Naruto was a fodder, that Yamato is a fodder, that Yamato is a knockoff, that Yamato is not Hashirama, that Yamato's wood style is not on Hashirama's scale, and that it is very, very, very unlikely for Hashirama to do that very specific justu mean't for restraining when he has far more powerful justu(even ones specifically for restraining) in his arsenal.

Naruto was always a fodder. who had his KCM clone restained by black Zetsu. unless you want to claim Black Zetsu is Hashirama level you can see Naruto is not in the range of some of the others such as Chojuro at the time. and remimber one of these clones can take out the 3rd Raikage who was wanting to be sealed who was said to be as strong as the 3rd Hokage who beat both the 1st and 2nd Hokages. meaning Chojuro is well into the kage level range of at least the 3rd Hokage.

Hashirama using genjutsu against hiruzen

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I could have swarn it was Tobirama who used this Jutsu. still being able to use Genjutsu does not make someone a master. and the Hidden Mist would block this form of Jutsu.

And Mokuton is the result of being able to manipulate BOTH earth and water natures

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If you don't have scans of Hashirama having both earth and water jutsu. I am calling bullshit on this. under your logic Haku has control of both Ice, water and wind by this logic. one dude even said Hashirama and Yamato are not the same so one of them using a water clone jutsu does not mean the other is able as well. or that Yamato has water relase.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm not a Hashirama fan but I know that Hashirama has so much vitality that he's able to emit wood style from his own body. I'm assuming you're saying Hashirama loses because 8 gates Dai lost to the swordsmen?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Like the 6th Mizukage?

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Kisame when Drunk rips apart Mokuton.

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it should be noted the same attack was able to hold Naruto.

Choujiro is not that impressive, he beat Black zetsu with Mizukage help

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Kisame was weakend by a 7th Gated guy blast. I think full power Kisame rips wood just fine.



Naruto was always a fodder. who had his KCM clone restained by black Zetsu. unless you want to claim Black Zetsu is Hashirama level you can see Naruto is not in the range of some of the others such as Chojuro at the time. and remimber one of these clones can take out the 3rd Raikage who was wanting to be sealed who was said to be as strong as the 3rd Hokage who beat both the 1st and 2nd Hokages. meaning Chojuro is well into the kage level range of at least the 3rd Hokage.


I could have swarn it was Tobirama who used this Jutsu. still being able to use Genjutsu does not make someone a master. and the Hidden Mist would block this form of Jutsu.

If you don't have scans of Hashirama having both earth and water jutsu. I am calling bullshit on this. under your logic Haku has control of both Ice, water and wind by this logic. one dude even said Hashirama and Yamato are not the same so one of them using a water clone jutsu does not mean the other is able as well. or that Yamato has water relase.

You need to know what your talking about before calling bullshit on someone else. Hakus kkg is the ability to use wind and water natures to create ice, just like meis lava release kkg uses earth and fire, and dum dum dum, hashi uses earth and water to create wood release

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Black Zestu thought he could 1v1 Mei.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

I dont see how tbh.
They would be a fool to engage a self healing powerhouse like Hashirama in close range combat.

They can do it just has to be with the hidden Mist Justus

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Putting hashirama is a desert only means he'll have to create his water and wood jutsus using his own chakra. For a regular shinobi that might be much, bit for hashirama that's nothing. The Guy has chakra levels on par with the kyuubi. Also hashi has been shown to be good with kenjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, fuinjutsu and a lot other techniques. But because mokuton is his specialty doesn't mean that he solely depends on it. He was the first hokage like you said, and no not only because he could control bijuu. He lived in a warring era where he had to fight the likes of uchiha, hyuuga and other clans with kkg. If you think he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve then you're very mistaken

He never fought the hyuga

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Someone who fought Madara on equal ground i dont see him losing to jonin lvl ninjas and just an add

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[MightGai]

Maybe he doesn't need to grow trees. But interesting thought.

Wow this forum is kinda dead now, it was on life support with Sagebees threads and I guess 123fire keeps it alive with the Boruto discussions to some degree but things feel really old now.

Unfortunately, until the ban hammer gets serious and starts getting rid of the alts, it's gonna be like this.

OT: Put him in the desert and he sprouts wood from the ground (he created a forest in a ****ing roof) , put him in the ocean and you're dealing with a ninja so talented that he could combine water + earth to create wood. Not only that, he can take the fight underwater while sprouting wood from his body while on the other side most, if not all, of the swordsmen will be useless in CQC.

There isn't a single scenario where the swordsmen win against him, not matter how much you buff them or how you nerf him.

 

[Tonybeeth]

Kisame was weakend by a 7th Gated guy blast. I think full power Kisame rips wood just fine.



Naruto was always a fodder. who had his KCM clone restained by black Zetsu. unless you want to claim Black Zetsu is Hashirama level you can see Naruto is not in the range of some of the others such as Chojuro at the time. and remimber one of these clones can take out the 3rd Raikage who was wanting to be sealed who was said to be as strong as the 3rd Hokage who beat both the 1st and 2nd Hokages. meaning Chojuro is well into the kage level range of at least the 3rd Hokage.


I could have swarn it was Tobirama who used this Jutsu. still being able to use Genjutsu does not make someone a master. and the Hidden Mist would block this form of Jutsu.

If you don't have scans of Hashirama having both earth and water jutsu. I am calling bullshit on this. under your logic Haku has control of both Ice, water and wind by this logic. one dude even said Hashirama and Yamato are not the same so one of them using a water clone jutsu does not mean the other is able as well. or that Yamato has water relase.

That's like saying just because there's no scan of hashirama using a sword that means he can't use one. Wood style is a result of combining both earth and water styles. You can't have wood style without having both earth and water. Any shinobi who can manipulate a kkg element can also manipulate the basic elements that form the kkg.
Unless you're a troll, read the manga properly before making unnecessary arguments

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

hashirama can create an ocean by himself if he wanted to.


One mokuton clone is more than enough to handle all 7

 

[SaskeyUchihahahaTard]

lmao hashi effortlessly murder this bunch of noobs.

 

[Calpal]

Noooooo. Thats not how his mokuton works.
the only valid point is that he cant use it on the ocean, depending on how deep the water is, it would be impractical.
hashi summons the wood golem and dragon and literally one shots them all at once

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The guy who could control all the nine bijuus like they were toys can't beat the seven swordsmen