Hashirama can't beat the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.

[Nerosmoke]

one of the things I see going around on the forum is hashirama wank. the only reason Hashirama was the Hokage was that he was able to control the tailed beast. something that was only done by Yagura, Killer Bee, Madera and Hashirama as stated by Danzo at the 5 kage summit. this means the one who can control the tailed beast is the one who can rule the shinobi world. and if you look at the story of Naruto it's what the whole thing is about.

With that being said. Hashirama is strong with his sage mode about as strong as a tailed beast. however he is not unbeatable and is much closer to terms of power as other kages who have been able to take on tailed beast.

the second thing I would like to bring up is Hashirama is unable to take out the over nations or even the Uchiha. they was the strongrest clan however that does not mean they are unbeatable. in fact both the land of wind and waves seem to be able to stand up to the power of Hashirama. but why is this?

Simple.

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Trees can't grow here.

if you was to look at the Naruto world map. (picked this one that has colored nations) you can see the major nations are all places trees don't grow.

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Hashirama would be unable to turn the battle feild to his advantage and his wood style would not be effective vs the sand natives who are trained on there own terf and have the advantage. if you look at the other villages are all places trees do not grow. meaning Hashirama is unable to fight at full power at theses locations.

Now if Hashirama was to fight the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist.

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Hashirama would be unable to grow threes in the middle of the ocean. and most of the Hidden Mist forces would be see based via ships and underwater ninjas. we see some of this with the new 7 Swordsmen who are able to hide underwater. as well as the sea around the mist village is covered in a thick mist as and most of the Ninjas are sensor ninjas from the hidden mist.

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The Hokage with out trees to grow is swordsmen fodder when not on his own terf.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Madara grew trees in a literal desert during the war, but I do believe the swordsman can handle Hashirama.

 

[FemmeFatale]

I dont see how tbh.
They would be a fool to engage a self healing powerhouse like Hashirama in close range combat.

 

[Nerosmoke]

I dont see how tbh.
They would be a fool to engage a self healing powerhouse like Hashirama in close range combat.

it's the other way around. they would be a fool to faces 7 Kage level Swordsmen in the ocean. as he would be unable to summon trees to help him in this fight.

 

[FemmeFatale]

it's the other way around. they would be a fool to faces 7 Kage level Swordsmen in the ocean. as he would be unable to summon trees to help him in this fight.

Wood clones says hi.
And the dragon golem thingy with the hands kills them all.

Hashirama chakra level > all of theres combined

 

[Nerosmoke]

Wood clones says hi.
And the dragon golem thingy with the hands kills them all.

Hashirama chakra level > all of theres combined

I don't see wood golem doing anything to 7 target at once. they are much smaller then the 9 tails. and stronger 3 of them have swords claimed to cut though anything. they have water clones and the location is water meaning they have massive scale water attacks at low chakra cost.

Done.

 

[Chikombo]

Maybe he doesn't need to grow trees. But interesting thought.

Wow this forum is kinda dead now, it was on life support with Sagebees threads and I guess 123fire keeps it alive with the Boruto discussions to some degree but things feel really old now.

 

[Reboryushon]

it's the other way around. they would be a fool to faces 7 Kage level Swordsmen in the ocean. as he would be unable to summon trees to help him in this fight.

It seems you don't know how wood release works or what a Kekkei Genkai is. No problem, I will not be the one explaining it.

Keep enjoying your thread and have a nice day.

 

[Nerosmoke]

It seems you don't know how wood release works or what a Kekkei Genkai is. No problem, I will not be the one explaining it.

Keep enjoying your thread and have a nice day.

If Hashirama's wood style was a KKG when why is he the only member of his clan to have it? and how is sage mode going to pull energy from places with out natrue.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

If Hashirama's wood style was a KKG when why is he the only member of his clan to have it? and how is sage mode going to pull energy from places with out natrue.

Doesn't the ocean host most of the planet's life?

 

[Nerosmoke]

Doesn't the ocean host most of the planet's life?

Like what seaweed?

 

[Uverdore9]

Lmfao wood style is a bloodline limit which only hashirama has. It's only his but doesn't make it not bloodline limit. And i don't think that's how natural energy absorption works. It can be absorbed from all places for example juugo absorbed it in cloud village constantly despite having zero trees/nature.

 

[Nerosmoke]

Jugo is always asorbing nature energy. there is nothing saying he absorbed it at the mountans in the cloud village.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Like what seaweed?

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Algae, plants, animals, or whatever cthulhuian creatures. If life came from the ocean, it only makes sense that most of it is in the ocean. Whatever, it's really not certain because there's not all that much information of what's down there, but a big point is that the majority of oxygen comes from the ocean despite even fish needing it. Look at all the trees in every forest and note the ocean has more than that.

 

[Nerosmoke]

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Algae, plants, animals, or whatever cthulhuian creatures. If life came from the ocean, it only makes sense that most of it is in the ocean. Whatever, it's really not certain because there's not all that much information of what's down there, but a big point is that the majority of oxygen comes from the ocean despite even fish needing it. Look at all the trees in every forest and note the ocean has more than that.

Nature Chakra does not come from animals as that is spirit or normal chakra. it comes from plants or ozone. algae and seaweed is the only thing he is going to be able to summon and pull from. meaning he has nothing to help him fight sword users.

 

[Tonybeeth]

Putting hashirama is a desert only means he'll have to create his water and wood jutsus using his own chakra. For a regular shinobi that might be much, bit for hashirama that's nothing. The Guy has chakra levels on par with the kyuubi. Also hashi has been shown to be good with kenjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, fuinjutsu and a lot other techniques. But because mokuton is his specialty doesn't mean that he solely depends on it. He was the first hokage like you said, and no not only because he could control bijuu. He lived in a warring era where he had to fight the likes of uchiha, hyuuga and other clans with kkg. If you think he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve then you're very mistaken

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Nature Chakra does not come from animals as that is spirit or normal chakra. it comes from plants or ozone. algae and seaweed is the only thing he is going to be able to summon and pull from. meaning he has nothing to help him fight sword users.

There's so much algae and plant life in the ocean. Most oxygen comes from the ocean, it only makes sense that'd it'd be full of its producers.

 

[Nerosmoke]

Putting hashirama is a desert only means he'll have to create his water and wood jutsus using his own chakra. For a regular shinobi that might be much, bit for hashirama that's nothing. The Guy has chakra levels on par with the kyuubi. Also hashi has been shown to be good with kenjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, fuinjutsu and a lot other techniques. But because mokuton is his specialty doesn't mean that he solely depends on it. He was the first hokage like you said, and no not only because he could control bijuu. He lived in a warring era where he had to fight the likes of uchiha, hyuuga and other clans with kkg. If you think he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve then you're very mistaken

I am going to need links for some of the stuf you claimed here. Hashirama Genjutsu? that is newz to me. and water style as tobirama tech not hashiramas. he has never been shown to be able to use water before and Mokuton is the only thing he has that is high level jutsu he has shown. the 7 Swordsmen are from the same warring states era as Hashirama and byakuren is older so the Swordsmen predate him.

There's so much algae and plant life in the ocean. Most oxygen comes from the ocean, it only makes sense that'd it'd be full of its producers.

What is he going to do? algae golem?

 

[Mori Jin]

Hashirama > 7 Swordsman that got dealt with by Kakashi and group.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

What is he going to do? algae golem?

I thought you were referring to his ability to gather nature energy, not summon wood(which I think he could underwater).
We've seen Yamato sprout wood from his body and Danzo literally become half tree. I'm sure Hashirama can do the same.

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