Can Naruto beat Sasuke in a taijustu match?

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Naruto gives the reason he has a lot of chakra and it is because of the 9 tails chakra he's been getting all his life. Shadowcb says No Naruto doesn't have a lot of chakra because of the 9 tails and that's wrong. Shadowcb knows better than Kishi or what kishi wanted to tell us. Kishi is wrong and shadowcb is right.

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I said, if you are going to claim Naruto has average or less chakra than you need to support your claim with Manga facts. Instead, you provide a scene where Naruto said "I get all the chakra that leaks from the 9 tails" you assume that means he would have average or less chakra without the 9 tails. The amount he gains from the 9 tails doesn't tell us how much he would have without the 9 tails. In fact Naruto doesn't tell us the amount he receives.

How about you go by the manga facts Kishi has proved us. IE: Here -

Naruto didn't know he had the 9 tails inside his body until he was in the academy, Naruto didn't know how the 9 tail seal works until the seal toad explained it to him - - Naruto doesn't know how much of the 9 tails charka he has been receiving his entire life. Seal toad tells him.
 
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thier is no scan of this but at the time 0;56:-1;12 (total of less than 16 secs) naruto was stopped by sasuke from using the SC no jutsu 5 times and before that he was geting his ass kicked. the animators knows naruto is inferior to sasukes tai-jutsu one on one(dude was ass stomping him and using narutos hand to weave hand seals), but with naruto SC+dual rasangan sasuke(couldn't use narutos hands to weave signs anymore) needed to use his Rinningan ability.


sasuke>naruto one v one tai

naruto+clones +rasangan > sasuke tai and sasuke knows this, why else would he want to stop naruto
 
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No he didn't, all Naruto knew of Sasuke was 3 tomoe Sharingan, fireball jutsu, chidori, chidori current insane speed and thaijutsu. That is Sasuke of Orochimaru's lair or the earlier version. Even the Sasuke he pictures in the above scan is base Sasuke (who's near drained and weak) and Naruto who had SM states he needs the 9 tails chakra to fight is a base Sasuke.

Also SM Naruto got fodderised by blind Madara and EMS Sasuke was giving the same Madara who was using sagemode some trouble.
Thet read each other mind as you can see here:
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Also you forget that Sasuke immediately after this asks Tobi to give him itachi's eyes to fight Naruto:

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Not really unless you can tell us how fast Hiruzen was. Last time i checked he wasn't very fast according to the databook and lacks any speed feats. Also Obito's pretty close to Hiruzen as well.
He was keeping up with Orochimaru, so like I said, Kage Level. As for the distance, well, he was close, but with Naruto he had a hand planted against his forehead. He was as point blank as point blank can be.
 

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I didn't. It just falls in line as something that worn out Kurama can do.
Worn out has nothing to do with it. He alone was stronger than what 5 combined tailed beasts? With all the nature energy he could amass He put Naruto into the realm of Gods did he not? He wasn't asleep, so he wasn't "wornout" it was a battle. A testament to Sasuke prowess I guess....
 

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Worn out has nothing to do with it. He alone was stronger than what 5 combined tailed beasts? With all the nature energy he could amass He put Naruto into the realm of Gods did he not? He wasn't asleep, so he wasn't "wornout" it was a battle. A testament to Sasuke prowess I guess....
I guess that explains why Kurama couldn't do anything much after throwing all the NE. Kurama had ran low on chakra earlier in the war, it's the reason Kurama borrowed from his other half.
 

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Yeah im not interested in more fanfic or denial of manga facts but what I will tell you is in part 1 of Naruto. Naruto is about to train with Ebisu Kakashi confirms Naruto has a lot of stamina and the root(origin of it is the 9 tails). Ebisu goes onto explain stamina is spiritual energy mixed with physical energy or chakra in other words. Even at that time Naruto's chakra origins were confirmed to be the 9 tails, the toad confirms that Naruto gets kyubi chakra and Naruto confirms he has a lot of chakra because of 9 tails. By default if he has a lot because of the 9 tails without it he'd have a little to average chakra reserves. I'm not really interested in your excuses, your wasting my and your time. Manga trumps your denial.

I guess that explains why Kurama couldn't do anything much after throwing all the NE. Kurama had ran low on chakra earlier in the war, it's the reason Kurama borrowed from his other half.
Yang kurama who borrowed the chakra from yin kurama. Naruto had yin kurama after he was revived so it wasn't drained.

He was keeping up with Orochimaru, so like I said, Kage Level. As for the distance, well, he was close, but with Naruto he had a hand planted against his forehead. He was as point blank as point blank can be.
Nah bro, Orochimaru was playing with him. His official speed stat is 3 which isn't very fast at all, that's slower than base Haku. You can't use Hiruzen to establish speed for the godou dama or qualify a speed feat off of him.
 
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Even then Sasuke rescued naruto before minato could finish weaving hand seals. With a mobility decreasing Susano'o. Naruto had trouble dodging but not by that extent. Two speedsters had trouble dodging obito but sasuke could do that just in the nick of time.
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I think this fixes it. Be aware that naruto has emotion sensing going on for him. He can sense evil emotions before an opponent even attacks yet he could only react to obito's attack. In gudodama scenario also naruto had danger sensing which alerted him before an enemy can attack so it makes things fair. He still had more difficulty.
 

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Yeah im not interested in more fanfic or denial of manga facts but what I will tell you is in part 1 of Naruto. Naruto is about to train with Ebisu Kakashi confirms Naruto has a lot of stamina and the root(origin of it is the 9 tails). Ebisu goes onto explain stamina is spiritual energy mixed with physical energy or chakra in other words. Even at that time Naruto's chakra origins were confirmed to be the 9 tails, the toad confirms that Naruto gets kyubi chakra and Naruto confirms he has a lot of chakra because of 9 tails. By default if he has a lot because of the 9 tails without it he'd have a little to average chakra reserves. I'm not really interested in your excuses, your wasting my and your time. Manga trumps your denial.



Yang kurama who borrowed the chakra from yin kurama. Naruto had yin kurama after he was revived so it wasn't drained.
The same old problem from you. You want Naruto to be weak without the 9 tails so bad that you ignore all of the manga facts Kishi has provide us. The toad seal understand the seal and tell us Naruto received a little amount.

You keep assuming because Naruto received chakra from the 9 tails that he must have a little amount of chakra without.

Use your head. Why would the 4th hokage need to increase Naruto's chakra amount when he gave Naruto the 9 tails and it's chakra to use. The amount of chakra Naruto gains from the 9 tails doesn't equal to the amount the 9 tails has. The reason he designed the seal that way was so Naruto's body would get use to using the 9 tails chakra.
 

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I think this fixes it. Be aware that naruto has emotion sensing going on for him. He can sense evil emotions before an opponent even attacks yet he could only react to obito's attack. In gudodama scenario also naruto had danger sensing which alerted him before an enemy can attack so it makes things fair. He still had more difficulty.
yes naruto can sense evil intent but not attacks. he can evade a massive damage threatening attack(not death threatening) from speed of lighting (raikage)
 

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The same old problem from you. You want Naruto to be weak without the 9 tails so bad that you ignore all of the manga facts Kishi has provide us. The toad seal understand the seal and tell us Naruto received a little amount.

You keep assuming because Naruto received chakra from the 9 tails that he must have a little amount of chakra without.

Use your head. Why would the 4th hokage need to increase Naruto's chakra amount when he gave Naruto the 9 tails and it's chakra to use. The amount of chakra Naruto gains from the 9 tails doesn't equal to the amount the 9 tails has. The reason he designed the seal that way was so Naruto's body would get use to using the 9 tails chakra.
Wrong. He sealed the kyuubi so it would merge with naruto's chakra slightly and improve his overall quantity. Naruto's chakra is because of kyuubi and also his stamina.
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Wrong. He sealed the kyuubi so it would merge with naruto's chakra slightly and improve his overall quantity. Naruto's chakra is because of kyuubi and also his stamina.
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Are you trying to reason with person who denies manga facts. I gave a scan which confirmed Naruto had a lot of chakra because of the 9 tails bit he outright ignored it. I've already explained this to him as well he'll ignore it again and repeat the same nonsense.
 

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yes naruto can sense evil intent but not attacks. he can evade a massive damage threatening attack(not death threatening) from speed of lighting (raikage)
Still sensing something before it happens gives him an advantage. Raikage thought about killing naruto in his heart that second itself naruto got the news raikage is charging for him and could plan his dodging maneuvre carefully because of the info he recieved beforehand.
 

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Still sensing something before it happens gives him an advantage. Raikage thought about killing naruto in his heart that second itself naruto got the news raikage is charging for him and could plan his dodging maneuvre carefully because of the info he recieved beforehand.
pretty sure he just wanted to cut narutos arms and legs off kabuto wanted naruto as a bargain chip.
 
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