EMS Sasuke does NOT have Perfect Susanoo.

[HowDidIGetPrem]

This shows that Uchiha are the strongest and the only ones able to achive their power on their own through their genetics such as sharingan/MS/EMS > Rinnegan/Sharinnegan - and the only one who could stood up against Madara is Hashirama , senju were lucky they had someone like him. Everybody else are nothing infront of the Uchiha clan

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Because they know what Hashirama fought when they were infants? Tsunade is questioning if Hashirama fought it. Given that we have more knowledge on the fight than her and saw it for ourselves with no trace of Perfect Susanoo, we can throw out her words.

 

[Zlad]

Do not waste more time on this guy - he is obviously trolling.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I think you need to leave the redundant logic at the door Sage mode and Bijuu mode are clearly different one originates from a bijuu and also contains positive and negative chakra and the other does not, they produce different effects, apart from many other differences. The same cannot be said with PS and it's swords and exact same effects. Like for like can be used to establish origins.

The origin doesn't matter when all you're comparing is aesthetics. And the only difference between a midget Susanoo's sword and a PS' sword is that one has more power. Kurama was backing the midget Susanoo this time around.

Nonsense you clearly ignored the scan the stage proceeding PS is the stage that gets stabilised and becomes perfect Susanoo. That is what Madara produces before he forms PS, he does the same the Kyubi but instead covers it in the attire.

Wrong. An explosion takes place and we see nothing in between when Madara covers Kurama.

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Again, there's no proof he could even make that in a humanoid form without Kurama.

I'm saying Madara and Tsunade are pretty much confirming that Madara used PS against Hashirama. What's lesser Susanoo got to do with PS.

Madara does not make a reference to his PS vs Hashirama, and Tsunade is asking a question that we have more information on than her. What is the answer to if we saw Hashirama fight that PS? No. We don't see that PS vs Hashirama.

Do not waste more time on this guy - he is obviously trolling.

Yet I've shown more manga panels than anyone in the thread.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Also lesser Susanoos have used swords. I showed you the tree it cut down.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

lel okay. imma drop this thread since there's no real refutation(besides Mander) and it's me up against like 5 guys.

 

[salamander uchiha]

The origin doesn't matter when all you're comparing is aesthetics. And the only difference between a midget Susanoo's sword and a PS' sword is that one has more power. Kurama was backing the midget Susanoo this time around.

Of course origins matters since that's the only way to establish a primary connection. There's a lot more that's different between PS and midget susanoo sword.

Wrong. An explosion takes place and we see nothing in between when Madara covers Kurama.

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Again, there's no proof he could even make that in a humanoid form without Kurama.

Explosion is irrelevant since the stage that blocks the TBB is the stage proceeding PS which is clearly seen.

What kind of BS excuse is that, why can't Madara make a Susano'o in humanoid for without Kurama? Kurama isn't a contingent condition for PS. Madara isn't getting chakra from Kurama to do so.

Madara does not make a reference to his PS vs Hashirama, and Tsunade is asking a question that we have more information on than her. What is the answer to if we saw Hashirama fight that PS? No. We don't see that PS vs Hashirama.

Tsunade asks the question, Madara unleashes a slash and then confirms the maps won't need to be as drastically redrawn since its only him this time. He says this after pulling out PS, which confirms the redrawing of maps is related to his use of PS. If that wasn't the case te statement would not have been made.

I can't be bothered repeating myself.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I'm leaving this and will let you guys think on it and the similarities it has with the biggest Susanoo EMS Sasuke has made alone:

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[Edogawa]

Windup is another alt for Tyrance Sasuke, just as the other 10 alts he made 3 months past. Kid's got no life. Anyways, EMS Sasuke probably did have PS, but was extraordinarily weak in destructive power. The Rinnegan boosted his PS to the same level as EMS Madara's. I'm guessing the extent of EMS Sasuke's PS slashes can only level a forest.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Windup is another alt for Tyrance Sasuke, just as the other 10 alts he made 3 months past. Kid's got no life. Anyways, EMS Sasuke probably did have PS, but was extraordinarily weak in destructive power. The Rinnegan boosted his PS to the same level as EMS Madara's. I'm guessing the extent of EMS Sasuke's PS slashes can only level a forest.

Tyrance's alts die within a day.

 

[Strangerthing]

You do understand that perfect Susanoo is literally a Susanoo with a complete body, right? And not only this, it is also a EMS ability, ok? Doesn't really matter the form it assumes..

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

You do understand that perfect Susanoo is literally a Susanoo with a complete body, right? Doesn't really matter the form it assumes..

Doesn't matter if it's attached to Kurama either :bdpf:

You do realize I was referring to EMS Sasuke and Madara alone, as in without Kurama, right?

 

[Exaar]

He does but it's featless.

We don't know it's size or strength if he were to use it on his own and form the full humanoid shape.

 

[Styles]

Tbh, even if the merger is Perfect Susanoo, there's no indication it could've been made without Kurama.

:| How? Kurama's avatar literally had nothing to do with Sasuke forming PS around it.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

:| How? Kurama's avatar literally had nothing to do with Sasuke forming PS around it.

Okay, I see your variety of manga panels and accept your refutation

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

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It's almost like he mean't he didn't have Hashirama and Kurama with him!! o:

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[lndra]

Look at PS' facial characteristics

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Look at Madara's PS on Kurama

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Sasuke's

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Sasuke confirming that it is what we think it is

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Sasuke had PS with EMS before obtaining the Rinnegan.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Look at PS' facial characteristics

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Look at Madara's PS on Kurama

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Sasuke's

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Sasuke confirming that it is what we think it is

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Sasuke had PS with EMS before obtaining the Rinnegan.

I don't know if you noticed, but every Konaha soldier features the Uzumaki's clan sign on their back. Maybe they're all Uzumakis.


Again with justifying Sasuke by using someone in the same boat.

 

[lndra]

I don't know if you noticed, but every Konaha soldier features the Uzumaki's clan sign on their back. Maybe they're all Uzumakis.


Again with justifying Sasuke by using someone in the same boat.

What kind of comparison is that? PS looks like PS

You can tell based on the physical attributions, the long nose, and the armor-like-padding.

Sasuke having PS /w EMS is a manga fact.

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Op is such a try hard that he can't even retain the facts that are being presented to him. Even if the same facts were given to him by 50+ members he'll still stick to the same story.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Op is such a try hard that he can't even retain the facts that are being presented to him. Even if the same facts were given to him by 50+ members he'll still stick to the same story.

Tbh, I made it clear that I was done with this thread awhile ago. At this point I'm just indulging in my glory:sdo2: