[Poll] Do you believe in God?

[Gladius]

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This reminds me of Aim64C's essays.

A whole lot of nothing.

 

[Wolves]

I wonder how Aim64C's purist colony in South America is going

 

[Multiply]

Everyone is an atheist. It just depends really.

 

[Clown World]

This reminds me of Aim64C's essays.

A whole lot of nothing.

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Ontological arguments are not science and have many criticisms ranging from humans knowing God's nature, to denying evidence, to basing their arguments on old theories.

If ontological arguments were such strong arguments to the existence of God, then God would be recognized by Science as a certainty already.

Philosophical "evidence" is not real evidence.

Its impossible to prove god exists by purely empirical/material means just as its impossible to prove how the universe started aswell as many other scientific phenomenon that rely on abstract and purely hypothetical analysis/construction, plus if you aren't a post-modernist or some other progressive r3tard its quite easy to comprehend the proofs.

 

[Lightbringer]

Its impossible to prove god exists by purely empirical/material means just as its impossible to prove how the universe started aswell as many other scientific phenomenon that rely on abstract and purely hypothetical analysis/construction, plus if you aren't a post-modernist or some other progressive r3tard its quite easy to comprehend the proofs.

Abstract and purely hypothetical is not evidence.

Science theories are still based on proof, which is then researched and challenged to see how valid that theory is.

Since we have no proof of God or any piece of knowledge of what God is like, he can be anything our imagination can conceive. Claiming that abstract theories prove his existence without any solid foundation as to what God is like is a ridiculous notion.

 

[Clown World]

Abstract and purely hypothetical is not evidence.

Science theories are still based on proof, which is then researched and challenged to see how valid that theory is.

Since we have no proof of God or any piece of knowledge of what God is like, he can be anything our imagination can conceive. Claiming that abstract theories prove his existence without any solid foundation as to what God is like is a ridiculous notion.

The difference is they are still theories and can still be falsified and also the 'proof' especially regarding the origins of the universe ect are confined to the limitations of our scientific understanding rendering them purely temporal and thus only speculation. The proofs are also not abstract theories, they are the application of logic and deduction which Objectivity exists of. There IS evidence god exists its called religion, once you deduct that they aren't all different gods but refer t0o once single truth/deity (perennial), it becomes alot more easily believable.

 

[Lightbringer]

The difference is they are still theories and can still be falsified and also the 'proof' especially regarding the origins of the universe ect are confined to the limitations of our scientific understanding rendering them purely temporal and thus only speculation. The proofs are also not abstract theories, they are the application of logic and deduction which Objectivity exists of. There IS evidence god exists its called religion, once you deduct that they aren't all different gods but refer t0o once single truth/deity (perennial), it becomes alot more easily believable.

Scientific theory is not defined by the same standards as a theory you or I may come up with.

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"Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. Facts and theories are two different things. In the scientific method, there is a clear distinction between facts, which can be observed and/or measured, and theories, which are scientists' explanations and interpretations of the facts.

An important part of scientific theory includes statements that have observational consequences. A good theory, like Newton's theory of gravity, has unity, which means it consists of a limited number of problem-solving strategies that can be applied to a wide range of scientific circumstances. Another feature of a good theory is that it formed from a number of hypotheses that can be tested independently."


Religion is not evidence for God nor is it based on careful and rational examination of the facts.

If you're arguing that because the concept of God was crafted by many different cultures, then the same can be said for many mythical creatures such as fire-breathing dragons.

Key word: believable. You believe based on an irrational explanation that all religions, regardless of contradicting beliefs and debunked texts that they are all actually referring to one God. What kind of logic is that?

 

[Got2]

Scientific theory is not defined by the same standards as a theory you or I may come up with.

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"Any scientific theory must be based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. Facts and theories are two different things. In the scientific method, there is a clear distinction between facts, which can be observed and/or measured, and theories, which are scientists' explanations and interpretations of the facts.

An important part of scientific theory includes statements that have observational consequences. A good theory, like Newton's theory of gravity, has unity, which means it consists of a limited number of problem-solving strategies that can be applied to a wide range of scientific circumstances. Another feature of a good theory is that it formed from a number of hypotheses that can be tested independently."


Religion is not evidence for God nor is it based on careful and rational examination of the facts.

If you're arguing that because the concept of God was crafted by many different cultures, then the same can be said for many mythical creatures such as fire-breathing dragons.

Key word: believable. You believe based on an irrational explanation that all religions, regardless of contradicting beliefs and debunked texts that they are all actually referring to one God. What kind of logic is that?

The world never contradicted religion. Let me give you an example. The dead bodies of pharoah and moses were found in the depth of the red sea, and his chariots. They were dipped into the sea some 4000 years ago after all. There is a verse in the bible "In the beginning, God created the heavens and earth. Now the earth was formless and empty and the Spirit of god was hovering over the waters". Let me ask you, how do you think it became empty? You said god isn't a perfect creator and has flaws and that is why the world is deformed and irregular in creation. Tell you what, you're ****ing correct. God has irregularities. God has weaknesses. But you may ask, how can such an imperfect god create such a vast medium like solar system, galaxy, comets? Simple, he didnt create it. The Word of God created it. This Word of God is a living being not a tool, but has its own will. Go back to my bible quote, I said "God" right? Singular version. But the exact word used in Hebrew manuscripts is "Elohim". The word for god is Elohi, and Gods is Elohim in Hebrew language. Why do you think there are Gods and not a single god? Because they are imperfect. One cancels or compliments the other god's deformities and shortcomings and vice versa. Together they created this world. They're an organisation. It's the exact same thing written in the Hindu scriptures. Its the exact same thing written in egyptian monuments and several ancient scrolls. How did the world become chaos? Because of a War. The world was created perfect through the Word and not gods, but a certain war destroyed it completely. That war is called the 10 year war, Titanomachy. If you look up greek mythology, there is all the details you need to realize the existence of a Word and not mere gods who are just like humans with evil desires and have supernatural powers to accomplish thier evil desires at the same time. After the chaos, the gods together from thier mouths created the the world, through Word of God. This word of god is called "Jesus christ" in Bible. This word of god is called "Horus" in egyptian mythology. This word of god is called "Krishna" in hindu mythology. This word of god is called "Zeus" in greek mythology. Religion never contradicted themselves. Look at the similarity of the names. Is that coincidence. You might say "Krishna is not similar in any form", but the original name of Krishna is "Yesu Kristu" similar to "Jesus christ". If I tell you thier backstory, you'll be star struck and you'll think science is nothing in front of the Word of God who is Perfect, unlike the sinful Gods. Let me tell you one comparison amongst krishna and jesus christ. Krishna was born to a virgin who had a helper/assistant to take care of him. Jesus was born to a virgin and had a husband who was rendered helper because he didnt give birth to him. Jesus had this special ability to heal things, krishna healed sick men ans women. Jesus had 12 disciples, Krishna had 12 disciples. Finally, Krishna's death was by a hunter's arrow piercing him into a tree and the arrow was dipped in poison. Jesus died on a cross but the Bible says the cross was a "tree" and not a wooden structure with no life. Krishna rose from the dead after 3 days. Jesus rose from the dead after three days. These similarities and dot connections are shocking. How did every religion know what exactly to write in thier books? How did a lot of ancient civilizations know what to write in the monuments and manuscrpits and surprisingly all of them ancients wrote the same thing, there is always this one guy in the religions who died in a cross and rose up 3 days exactly afterwards. Words have the power of creation according to bible. Gods are not perfect or pure, they are humanlike beasts with spiritual powers. The true perfect being and pure entity is Word. You may ask how were the gods created? The first god was created by Word, then the god reproduced with a goddess and gave birth to various other gods, same as human beings. How was the Word created? The question is the trickiest question but its actually more comprehendable than we think it is. The word of god was not really created. He existed. Darkness. The word of god is Darkness. Darkness which can be felt. Darkness which dont allow a ray of light to escape. Infinite gravity. That is Word. Nothing sees him, Nothing gets past seeing his face, he will absorb the man into himself. That is why blackholes are still an equation. Why gravity is still immeasurable. The force which attracts. The almighty force which binds together every single thing. The Bible says heavens are earth were created. What was not created? Water. Whats the composition of water? Oxygen and hydrogen. Oxygen is the breath of life. Hydrogen when amassed and used for bombs and missiles are the greatest nuclear weapons many times greater than the atom bomb. Water already existed. Blackness and water. How did they start existing? Simple. Water is life. And destruction at the same time. Water is the very emotion of destruction and life giving. Can something which is in the middle of destruction and life/existence be created or destroyed? Where does darkness come into this? Darkness is the shadow of water. A shadow will never leave your body gets completely eradicated. As long as the infinity concept that is water exists, darkness will never suffer the need to be created. That is why the "Spirit of gods were hovering over the waters....". What is spirit? Darkness. There is another statement, "Darkness was over the surface of the deep...". Meaning the Spirit was flying above the waters. The triangle is the strongest shape in nature according to science. This is the reason, these three have a right to already exist and not be created by anyone. Spirit(Darkness and Light), Hydrogen(Destruction), Oxygen(Life and death). Oxygen has two atoms. To represent both Life and death, unlike Hygrogen which only has one. These three together form the concept of infinity. They will only feel the need to be created if they are seperated but they always stick to each other, knowing this. Darkness and light were one but the Word of god himself seperated them when he said "Let the light govern the day and darkness govern the night". And this exact drama of splitting was literally shown when jesus was about to leave the earth and he said to his disciples "Dont worry if Im going, Iam leaving my Spirit in your hands, he will guide you..." Jesus split the darkness in him and gave it to the disciples, recreating the beginning incident of dark and light split.

 

[Multiply]

The world never contradicted religion. Let me give you an example. The dead bodies of pharoah and moses were found in the depth of the red sea, and his chariots. They were dipped into the sea some 4000 years ago after all. There is a verse in the bible "In the beginning, God created the heavens and earth. Now the earth was formless and empty and the Spirit of god was hovering over the waters". Let me ask you, how do you think it became empty? You said god isn't a perfect creator and has flaws and that is why the world is deformed and irregular in creation. Tell you what, you're ****ing correct. God has irregularities. God has weaknesses. But you may ask, how can such an imperfect god create such a vast medium like solar system, galaxy, comets? Simple, he didnt create it. The Word of God created it. This Word of God is a living being not a tool, but has its own will. Go back to my bible quote, I said "God" right? Singular version. But the exact word used in Hebrew manuscripts is "Elohim". The word for god is Elohi, and Gods is Elohim in Hebrew language. Why do you think there are Gods and not a single god? Because they are imperfect. One cancels or compliments the other god's deformities and shortcomings and vice versa. Together they created this world. They're an organisation. It's the exact same thing written in the Hindu scriptures. Its the exact same thing written in egyptian monuments and several ancient scrolls. How did the world become chaos? Because of a War. The world was created perfect through the Word and not gods, but a certain war destroyed it completely. That war is called the 10 year war, Titanomachy. If you look up greek mythology, there is all the details you need to realize the existence of a Word and not mere gods who are just like humans with evil desires and have supernatural powers to accomplish thier evil desires at the same time. After the chaos, the gods together from thier mouths created the the world, through Word of God. This word of god is called "Jesus christ" in Bible. This word of god is called "Horus" in egyptian mythology. This word of god is called "Krishna" in hindu mythology. This word of god is called "Zeus" in greek mythology. Religion never contradicted themselves. Look at the similarity of the names. Is that coincidence. You might say "Krishna is not similar in any form", but the original name of Krishna is "Yesu Kristu" similar to "Jesus christ". If I tell you thier backstory, you'll be star struck and you'll think science is nothing in front of the Word of God who is Perfect, unlike the sinful Gods. Let me tell you one comparison amongst krishna and jesus christ. Krishna was born to a virgin who had a helper/assistant to take care of him. Jesus was born to a virgin and had a husband who was rendered helper because he didnt give birth to him. Jesus had this special ability to heal things, krishna healed sick men ans women. Jesus had 12 disciples, Krishna had 12 disciples. Finally, Krishna's death was by a hunter's arrow piercing him into a tree and the arrow was dipped in poison. Jesus died on a cross but the Bible says the cross was a "tree" and not a wooden structure with no life. Krishna rose from the dead after 3 days. Jesus rose from the dead after three days. These similarities and dot connections are shocking. How did every religion know what exactly to write in thier books? How did a lot of ancient civilizations know what to write in the monuments and manuscrpits and surprisingly all of them ancients wrote the same thing, there is always this one guy in the religions who died in a cross and rose up 3 days exactly afterwards. Words have the power of creation according to bible. Gods are not perfect or pure, they are humanlike beasts with spiritual powers. The true perfect being and pure entity is Word. You may ask how were the gods created? The first god was created by Word, then the god reproduced with a goddess and gave birth to various other gods, same as human beings. How was the Word created? The question is the trickiest question but its actually more comprehendable than we think it is. The word of god was not really created. He existed. Darkness. The word of god is Darkness. Darkness which can be felt. Darkness which dont allow a ray of light to escape. Infinite gravity. That is Word. Nothing sees him, Nothing gets past seeing his face, he will absorb the man into himself. That is why blackholes are still an equation. Why gravity is still immeasurable. The force which attracts. The almighty force which binds together every single thing. The Bible says heavens are earth were created. What was not created? Water. Whats the composition of water? Oxygen and hydrogen. Oxygen is the breath of life. Hydrogen when amassed and used for bombs and missiles are the greatest nuclear weapons many times greater than the atom bomb. Water already existed. Blackness and water. How did they start existing? Simple. Water is life. And destruction at the same time. Water is the very emotion of destruction and life giving. Can something which is in the middle of destruction and life/existence be created or destroyed? Where does darkness come into this? Darkness is the shadow of water. A shadow will never leave your body gets completely eradicated. As long as the infinity concept that is water exists, darkness will never suffer the need to be created. That is why the "Spirit of gods were hovering over the waters....". What is spirit? Darkness. There is another statement, "Darkness was over the surface of the deep...". Meaning the Spirit was flying above the waters. The triangle is the strongest shape in nature according to science. This is the reason, these three have a right to already exist and not be created by anyone. Spirit(Darkness and Light), Hydrogen(Destruction), Oxygen(Life and death). Oxygen has two atoms. To represent both Life and death, unlike Hygrogen which only has one. These three together form the concept of infinity. They will only feel the need to be created if they are seperated but they always stick to each other, knowing this. Darkness and light were one but the Word of god himself seperated them when he said "Let the light govern the day and darkness govern the night". And this exact drama of splitting was literally shown when jesus was about to leave the earth and he said to his disciples "Dont worry if Im going, Iam leaving my Spirit in your hands, he will guide you..." Jesus split the darkness in him and gave it to the disciples, recreating the beginning incident of dark and light split.

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Damn dog was it that serious lmao.

 

[Funky Tiger]

i watch god every week on the telly

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[Pumpkin Ninja]

The difference is they are still theories and can still be falsified and also the 'proof' especially regarding the origins of the universe ect are confined to the limitations of our scientific understanding rendering them purely temporal and thus only speculation. The proofs are also not abstract theories, they are the application of logic and deduction which Objectivity exists of. There IS evidence god exists its called religion, once you deduct that they aren't all different gods but refer t0o once single truth/deity (perennial), it becomes alot more easily believable.

I believe in God but how does this make sense? Religion is the belief and worship in God or gods. You're literally saying the evidence for God's existence is the fact that people believe he does.

EDIT: Unless you're saying man's desire to worship is inherit and seen throughout cultures, therefore God exists. Idk...

OT: The answer is absurd regardless of whether you believe in God or not.

 

[Kenotthib]

I wholeheartedly believe in the most high god =D