Will Boruto be a good strategist as Shikamaru?

[Umari Senju]

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the only Gary Stu is someone that literally sees an opponents move and then does it word for word without any innovation or making it their own


even Boruto's strategies proves he isn't a Gary Stu because he uses new ideas and plays it by the ear

A Gary Stu wouldn't need to do so and instead just counter an attack with the opposite without breaking a sweat


Boruto on the other hand tries to outwit his opponents and uses their assumption of him against them

like making their knowledge of him only producing 4 shadow clones as a tool to deceive them with his coat or some help from an ally.

He also uses his surrounding like that NUE scene.

All of this is because he lacks the reserves of his father and the eyes of his sister and mother so he feels inferior and instead used strategy as his strength

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It seems a bit of a reach in the cons dept. his pros far outshine the cons. And I said he shaping up to be a Gary Stu he isn’t quite there yet. His bout with Kakashi was refreshing. He actually laid down the facts and gave him a reason to pause and think. I want to see more of that.

Having a bunch of cool feats shouldn’t be all that makes a protagonist great. Sasuke is a prodigy too as was Neji they were good at many things but were much more relateable because of the things going on in their clans. And the horrors of being a ninja.

I will give Boruto a pass on this because his era hasn’t had to deal with any real tragedy yet and that may be why I am having such an issue with his character. I’m not trying to hate on Boruto at all. I’m glad he is not shaping up to be Naruto 2.0. But he and the rest of his gen need some struggle in their life.

 

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In the fight where exactly did Sarada tell Boruto to not be spontaneous. He was doing that of his own accord as Mitsuki points out.

Boruto insisted to charge in (Which is his "usual spontaneous" that Mitsuki pointed)

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and yet Sarada opposed his idea and trying to be more pragmatic.

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Sarada literally told Boruto to distract her until she can make her direct appeal once she spots her weakness. Obviously it didn't work out in the end because Sarada pretty much threw her shirukens at times without overexerting her sharingan.


Therefore, the root of the problems mainly stems from Sarada as Mitsuki pointed out.

After Mitsuki told them their flaws it was Sarada who suggested to play it by the ear. And figured our how to beat Mirai.

More like stealing lines since both pretty much identify the problem after Mitsuki addressed the flaws.

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The moment Boruto realizes how predicament to sync with her game plan is the moment that he reaffirmed it.

 

[Konno]

Why would they make this parallel if we have Shikadai?

 

[soretynha]

Why would they make this parallel if we have Shikadai?

Maybe to give a little change to the story.

 

[Konno]

Maybe to give a little change to the story.

You're right there. Will be more interesting this way

 

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Boruto insisted to charge in (Which is his "usual spontaneous" that Mitsuki pointed)

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and yet Sarada opposed his idea and trying to be more pragmatic.

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Sarada literally told Boruto to distract her until she can make her direct appeal once she spots her weakness. Obviously it didn't work out in the end because Sarada pretty much threw her shirukens at times without overexerting her sharingan.

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It was actually Mitsuki who said he agrees with Sarada. So Boruto asked for suggestions and Sarada said let's use our expertise. I hate to break it to you but being spontaneous is Boruto's experise he chose not to use it. Expertise are also a person's strengths.

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Sarada may have said distract her but none of that means he couldn't be spontaneous. That was down to himself now I ask you again where does Sarada tell him not to be spontaneous since she tells him to play to his expertise(strengths)?

Therefore, the root of the problems mainly stems from Sarada as Mitsuki pointed out.

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Really? like I said Mitsuki agreed with Sarada and he didn't plan on not using his own fighting style or expertise(strengths). Boruto did that himself even Mitsuki points out he's too concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's concerned with his. So it's Boruto's fault he's concerned and not being spontaneous, how you can pin that on Sarada I have no idea.

More like stealing lines since both pretty much identify the problem after Mitsuki addressed the flaws.

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The moment Boruto realizes how predicament to sync with her game plan is the moment that he reaffirmed it.

Again I repeat of his own choice and it still doesn't negate the fact Sarada didn't tell him to try and sync with her. She says use our expertise Boruto chose not to. And it was Sarada who said let's play it by the ear and figured out how to beat Mirai.

Try and spin it or justify Boruto failing anyway you like it was his own shortcoming and not Sarada's. As Sarada's was her own as well. You don't see us trying to pin it on Boruto do you?

 

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I think he’s gonna be better at coming up with tactics mid fight but not overall

 

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It was actually Mitsuki who said he agrees with Sarada. So Boruto asked for suggestions and Sarada said let's use our expertise.

Mitsuki agrees with the general ideas that Boruto move is too risky only because there's no telling what's going on through Boruto head that usually tend to be his spontaneous. Mitsuki following along Sarada plan but it didn't cement to anything in the end after the fact that Mitsuki said that they put too much emphasis on their battle expertise.

I hate to break it to you but being spontaneous is Boruto's experise he chose not to use it. Expertise are also a person's strengths.

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Taijutsu is also his expertise and yet Mirai was pushing him and Boruto was holding on his own while stalling until Sarada is ready. Unless you're going to infer that Boruto taijutsu is superior to Mirai?

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Sarada may have said distract her but none of that means he couldn't be spontaneous. That was down to himself now I ask you again where does Sarada tell him not to be spontaneous since she tells him to play to his strengths?

By distracting opponent, you're limited to use his skills and his mind. One clear apparent example here is that Sarada stopped Boruto from attempting to use his shadow clones which is how he normally fight.

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This is Boruto specialty and Sarada ordered Boruto not to.

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Really? like I said Mitsuki agreed with Sarada and he didn't plan on not using his own fighting style or expertise(strengths). Boruto did that himself even Mitsuki points out he's too concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's concerned with his. So it's Boruto's fault he's concerned and not being spontaneous, how you can pin that on Sarada I have no idea.

Even if Boruto incorporate his fighting style, it wouldn't amount to anything. He can't beat Mirai alone without teamwork involves since Sarada was at fault for not relying her battle instinct.

In other word, Sarada tactics hinders Boruto movement from over relying her sharingan so either way it wouldn't work out for Boruto.

Again I repeat off of his own choice and it still doesn't negate the fact Sarada didn't tell him to try and sync with her. She says use our expertise Boruto chose not.

So again, his own "choice" comes in many shapes and form. Sarada ordered Boruto not to and followed along yet proceed to get wrecked by genjutsu and Boruto had to save her by dispelling genjutsu.

Sarada was busy analyzing her opponent movement yet in the end she whimpered that she could not find her weakness means that Boruto was so busy syncing with her plan to fruition. Boruto was the one to scrap out her time occupying on analyzing .

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Whether he uses his battle expertise or not, he can't achieve it alone without Sarada coming to her realization that she needs to fight spontaneously.

Try and spin it or justify Boruto failing anyway you like it was his own shortcoming and not Sarada's.

Unless you're going to tell me that Boruto beats Mirai alone, let's see how you're going to spin this.

 

[MightGai]

At the very best he's at Sasuke's kind of genius when he was at the academy, but he will never reach Nara's capabilities. That's their thing, being the smartest arround.

 

[lndra]

Dropping my 2cents

smart

He's not the smartest, in this episode they were relying on Sarada's tactics and Mitsuki's opinions post that. Like in the previous chapter where Sarada deducted that the robots were ninja tools.

everyone’s looks to him and likes him immediately

he is a great fighter

So are most prodigies. On the first one, if you wanna know what I'm referring to, Sasuke literally had the entire classroom on his knees, and even had the Main Character begging to stay with him. Sakura included.

Naruto even later admits to Sasuke that he wanted to be like him :lol !!!

A good strategist

So are most prodigies

Masters Jutsu easily

So are most prodigies

Has 3 nature’s

Literally non prodigies in Boruto's gen have 2 elements already lol. So what if he has 3?

Perfect genes

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A unique god seal

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A unique doujutsu

What's wrong with having your own powers?

Son to one of the ninja worlds saviors
Student of the other savior

This doesn't make you a Sue at all lmfao.

I'll give you a basic idea of what a Sue is by definiton:

The prototypical Mary Sue is an original female character in a fanfic who obviously serves as an idealized version of the author mainly for the purpose of Wish Fulfillment. She's exotically beautiful, often having an unusual hair or eye color, and has a similarly cool and exotic name. She's exceptionally talented in an implausibly wide variety of areas, and may possess skills that are rare or nonexistent in the canon setting. She also lacks any realistic, or at least story-relevant, character flaws — either that or her "flaws" are obviously meant to be endearing.

> Is Boruto exotically beautiful or handsome? It's actually Mitsuki, according to his introduction episode, all the girls were flying to his side.

> Is Boruto exceptionally talented? Yes, yes he is. Like most in his generation, however.

> Does he have abilities that don't exist in the canon setting? Considering that the new series started off introducing the seal and his eye combination, that's a hit or miss. Since that would be considered the 'canon setting'.

Granted the seals, aren't unique to Boruto, and his Dojutsu, Toneri knows about it.

> Does Boruto have any character flaws?

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This is just little stuff I poked at the Anime, the Movie is where Boruto's character is shown with actual fundamental flaws. Granted he's the one with them, so far.

Almost every character in the next generation is fundamentally the same. For example:


> No one is stupid or brain dead like Naruto

> Everyone is talented, exceptionally so. Even Denki's weak self, can use advanced sealing jutsu despite being labled as 'untalented' from perspective.

> New abilities/Showcasing talent with old existing abilities: Mitsuki has a unique sage mode developed in a lab, that he didn't even have to work for. Sarada showcased Pre-Shippuden Sakura level CES without any training on screen because she was "mad". Sumire could use high ranking elemental natures that even Tobirama showcased, as an Academy student (this was before even used Wind or Lightning). Mitsuki on that note too, already had two elements under his belt before the Gaiden.

Metal Lee could activate the Gates when he was under possession of the Nue, despite Lee obtaining them at the Chunin Examinations was something unheard of.

Wassabi has her own set of beast transformation jutsu that we've never seen before.

Namida has her own ability where she cries and knocks people out instantaneously, which took out a Special Jonin.

... By now you get my point. Most of these characters are fundamentally "unflawed" in terms of characteristics. However, that doesn't necessarily mean they are Stu's either.

 

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Mitsuki agrees with the general ideas that Boruto move is too risky only because there's no telling what's going on through Boruto head that usually tend to be his spontaneous. Mitsuki following along Sarada plan but it didn't cement to anything in the end after the fact that Mitsuki said that they put too much emphasis on their battle expertise.

Are you pulling things out of your ass mate? Boruto didn't use his greatest expertise(strengths). Mitsuki agreed with the plan he didn't say I agree generally and Mitsuki would've used his own expertise (strength). Nothing distracts a person more than being spontaneous, Boruto's expertise (strength) which he chose not to do.

@bold you know a fan's full of BS when he makes things up, Mitsuki not once criticises Sarada's idea or plan which involved using your expertise(strengths).

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Taijutsu is also his expertise and yet Mirai was pushing him and Boruto was holding on his own while stalling until Sarada is ready. Unless you're going to infer that Boruto taijutsu is superior to Mirai?

Agreed now tell me again why he wasn't spontaneous if he was using 1 of his strengths who told him not to use the other? He didn't do it of his own choice, nothing distracts an opponent more than spontaniety so he undermined his role.

By distracting opponent, you're limited to use his skills and his mind. One clear apparent example here is that Sarada stopped Boruto from attempting to use his shadow clones which is how he normally fight.

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This is Boruto specialty and Sarada ordered Boruto not to.

Again Boruto's own choice and Mitsuki agreed with Sarada. Even while your distracting it doesn't mean you can't be spontaneous. If anything being spontaneous(random) is more distracting than not being spontaneous.

If he was using one of his expertise why wasn't he using his main skill? Because he chose not to. And I don't think you understand what an order is. She told Boruto to get out of her way because she couldn't analyse him she didn't say don't use shadow clones or don't be spontaneous.

Even if Boruto incorporate his fighting style, it wouldn't amount to anything. He can't beat Mirai alone without teamwork involves since Sarada was at fault for not relying her battle instinct.

Your sayining that his own style wouldnt amount to anything anyway even though he chose not to be spontaneous as an excuse for Boruto. Boruto not being spontaneous of his own choice is Sarada's fault

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The fact that he didn't try is his fault and his choice not Sarada's that's why Mitsuki told him he's concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's plan ordered you to not be spontaneous when her plan said use your expertise (strengths).

In other word, Sarada tactics hinders Boruto movement from over relying her sharingan so either way it wouldn't work out for Boruto.

So your excuse is Boruto isn't at fault for not being spontaneous or even trying to be spontaneous but Sarada is

I hate to break it to you but Mitsuki blames Boruto for being concerned with Sarada and not being spontaneous, not the other way round.

]So again, his own "choice" comes in many shapes and form. Sarada ordered Boruto not to and followed along yet proceed to get wrecked by genjutsu and Boruto had to save her by dispelling genjutsu.

Sarada getting caught in genjutsu is irrelevant just as Boruto got low diffed is irrelevant.

Sarada was busy analyzing her opponent movement yet in the end she whimpered that she could not find her weakness means that Boruto was so busy syncing with her plan to fruition. Boruto was the one to scrap out her time occupying on analyzing .

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Again Boruto trying to sync with Sarada was his own choice. Sarada told him to use his expertise(strengths) and distract Mirai. Nothing would distract Mirai more than being spontaneous which he chose not to do. So we know who's at fault their.

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That's why Mitsuki says your so concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's concerned with Boruto's moves. If anything it was Boruto who messed up by trying to sync and not rely on his expertise being spontaneous.

Whether he uses his battle expertise or not, he can't achieve it alone without Sarada coming to her realization that she needs to fight spontaneously.



Unless you're going to tell me that Boruto beats Mirai alone, let's see how you're going to spin this.

Sarada realised what she had to do because of Mitsuki, yet she still used her Sharingan coupled with her shuriken to discover the weakness. When Boruto stopped f'ing up the plan and started to use his expertise as he was meant to it came to fruition.

It doesn't matter whether Boruto beats Mirai alone or not he messed up the plan by not using his expertise (being spontaneous), nothing is more distracting than being spontaneous. The fact that he didn't try is his shortcoming not Sarada's. The same is true for Sarada her shortcoming is she was sole relying on her sharingan in stead of her other strengths.

I think I've made my point and it's pretty clear what happened and/or who's to blame.

Your free to spout as much fanfic or make as many excuses as you like now.

 

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Are you pulling things out of your ass mate? Boruto didn't use his greatest expertise(strengths).[/IMG]

Perhaps not the greatest but that's still hold the candle as one of the best so Nevertheless, he still uses his CQC expertise.

Mitsuki agreed with the plan he didn't say I agree generally and Mitsuki would've used his own expertise (strength).

Mitsuki agreed when Sarada was generally speaking about Boruto plan being "reckless" before she fortify her plan and strategize. Both Boruto and Mitsuki later went along with her plan and it went to moot.

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Nothing distracts a person more than being spontaneous, Boruto's expertise (strength) which he chose not to do.

Are you going to tell me that Boruto fending himself is not part of Sarada strategy since that also requires stalling?

@bold you know a fan's full of BS when he makes things up, Mitsuki not once criticises Sarada's idea or plan which involved using your expertise(strengths).

He did criticise. That's the whole point, Sarada expertise comes from her reliance on sharingan. That's how she beat buntan since she clearly took the time to analyze her weakness.

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And you're telling me that Mitsuki of all people with the utmost intelligence proven to be correctly cannot be taken seriously?? Even when both Sarada and Boruto realizes their mistakes and act accordingly on their will??

Agreed now tell me again why he wasn't spontaneous if he was using 1 of his strengths who told him not to use the other? He didn't do it of his own choice, nothing distracts an opponent more than spontaniety so he undermined his role.

He's more spontaneous when he fights with his shadow clones and that was proven by the end of the fight. Boruto was more or less defending himself since Mirai is pushing him. so clearly this fight was onesided. So of course Sarada choses Boruto to distract her because his well versed in Taijutsu can atleast sufficient; enough time before Sarada can make the call.



Again Boruto's own choice and Mitsuki agreed with Sarada. Even while your distracting it doesn't mean you can't be spontaneous. If anything being spontaneous(random) is more distracting than not being spontaneous.

If he was using one of his expertise why wasn't he using his main skill? Because he chose not to. And I don't think you understand what an order is. She told Boruto to get out of her way because she couldn't analyse him she didn't say don't use shadow clones or don't be spontaneous.

BOLD: Hence proven my point. Boruto was about to use his main skillset as his spontaneous but because Sarada couldn't detect her weak point she incite her fear. It's pretty much self explanatory that he was stopped by Sarada command.
Now tell me why else would Sarada told Boruto to get out of the way while Boruto was about to use his shadow clones?
To Get out of the way or to fall back leads the same interpretation as To stop what you're attempting to do.

Your sayining that his own style wouldnt amount to anything anyway even though he chose not to be spontaneous as an excuse for Boruto. Boruto not being spontaneous of his own choice is Sarada's fault

And he was going to uses his main skillset at one point but was stopped by Sarada "Plan"

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So whose fault is it really?

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It's all on Sarada since Boruto has every right to be concern and follow Sarada plan. Sarada was holding him back that leads her plan to crumble in the first place.

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The fact that he didn't try is his fault and his choice not Sarada's that's why Mitsuki told him he's concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's plan ordered you to not be spontaneous when her plan said use your expertise (strengths).

The fact that Sarada ordered until she can deliver it does limited his choice. Boruto can't be spontaneous while "distracting" that's why when Mitsuki called him out, he later uses his skills to his fullest without his intention of distracting and stalling. Both Boruto and Sarada went with the flow.

So your excuse is Boruto isn't at fault for not being spontaneous or even trying to be spontaneous but Sarada is

I see you're twisting and bending to your whim. How does Sarada being spontaneous have anything to do with what I said? She wasn't which proves my point, her failures are mostly stems from her tactics which is relying her expertise in sharingan.

I hate to break it to you but Mitsuki blames Boruto for being concerned with Sarada and not being spontaneous, not the other way round.

Which all leads to Sarada since she's the one to guide him so of course Boruto has to be concerned.

Sarada getting caught in genjutsu is irrelevant just as Boruto got low diffed is irrelevant.

It's relevant to this matter since its Boruto "choice" to save her which further leads to Boruto concern with Sarada Failures.

Again Boruto trying to sync with Sarada was his own choice.

His own Choice comes from Sarada game plan.

Sarada told him to use his expertise(strengths) and distract Mirai. Nothing would distract Mirai more than being spontaneous which he chose not to do. So we know who's at fault their.

Yet Sarada proposal clearly restrained Boruto choice since he can't do anything that requires him to go thrashing until she can make her move which means Boruto combating with Mirai offers nothing more but a distraction.

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That's why Mitsuki says your so concerned about Sarada's moves. He doesnt say Sarada's concerned with Boruto's moves. If anything it was Boruto who messed up by trying to sync and not rely on his expertise being spontaneous.

You're just running with your mouth full with repeating the same shit while running circle at this point. Here is more things that can be disprove.

1. Boruto messed up for being too compatible with her clearly traces back for her lack of competence.

2. Boruto concern of Sarada is all due to her drawbacks

3. The moment Boruto loses his composure for long period of time is the moment Sarada tactics collapse.

4. Boruto cannot act accordingly on his own without Sarada consensus therefore he cannot be Spontaneous

Sarada realised what she had to do because of Mitsuki, yet she still used her Sharingan coupled with her shuriken to discover the weakness. When Boruto stopped f'ing up the plan and started to use his expertise as he was meant to it came to fruition.

So you just proven my point. Because of Mitsuki, Both Boruto and Sarada realize that they both have to play by the ear which comes to their fruition. Before Boruto and Sarada came across their defeat; Sarada intended not to be spontaneous which hinders Boruto to do the same as well. Sarada was the one to lead since his role was not to fight rashly

It doesn't matter whether Boruto beats Mirai alone or not he messed up the plan by not using his expertise (being spontaneous), nothing is more distracting than being spontaneous. The fact that he didn't try is his shortcoming not Sarada's. The same is true for Sarada her shortcoming is she was sole relying on her sharingan in stead of her other strengths.

So that's your damage control. If what you said is true in regard to sarada "expertise" then her plan was bound to fail from the very start since she's not aware of her own. Again I already addressed the point, distracting means you're not even trying so of course Boruto can't even be spontaneous. Boruto is following her lead so that bends against his will.

I think I've made my point and it's pretty clear what happened and/or who's to blame.

Your free to spout as much fanfic or make as many excuses as you like now.

You sound like you're just stringing random words together so really you don't have anything more productive while I bring more concrete evidences to the table. All I hear is you spouting the same nonesense on every bit of quotes you got.

You're free to deny it because I like to see how much you can reach through thin air.