Naruto manga and ass pulls

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I know some people stretch for the "asspull". Most comments above could be answered by manga.

this lists some ^
 

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I know some people stretch for the "asspull". Most comments above could be answered by manga.

this lists some ^

Thanks for the link. I found this one as the most interesting Quote in that thread.

Your predictions get torn apart = ASS-PULL

I'll admit that screaming for ASS-PULL is a slightly better form of anger management than engaging into massive school-shooting, but it's still worse than pretty much anything else.

That's it, the concept of ass-pull in a nutshell.

It seems most claims of ass pull are driven by :salt:
 
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Thanks for the link. I found this one as the most interesting Quote in that thread.

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Welcome, I'm sorry OP we wont come to terms with what an asspull is. Like you said any small detail could be labeled a asspull. It just comes down to personal opinion.

Fights = Kaguya vs Kakashi (plot) Kakazu vs Naruto (plot) plot was forced for characters to win.

Story = Madara no eyes using Sussano, Or how kakazu or hidan gets outpaced by shikamaru
 

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We're currently trying to establish a principle that can be applied across the board. Then you can apply it to every aspect of a story and decide whether it's an ass pull. So we need a definition of ass pull that can be agreed upon.

pulling something out of thin air with no previous inclination towards that, something that defies the current set axioms defined in a series and possibly even stuff that doesnt make sense but played out to. my examples were plot inconsistencies aswell as asspulls.
 

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pulling something out of thin air with no previous inclination towards that, something that defies the current set axioms defined in a series and possibly even stuff that doesnt make sense but played out to. my examples were plot inconsistencies aswell as asspulls.

I can agree with that, but my point is not everything has a foreshadowing, some things get introduced then expanded upon or reused after that point. It doesn't make everything new we see without foreshadowing an ass pull as some would claim. Not in your case but in others's cases they may view something as an ass pull because they've developed pre conceived notions about things(how they are or should be). Now unless the author explicitly stipulates a condition then breaks the condition something can't be qualified as ass pull.
 

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I can agree with that, but my point is not everything has a foreshadowing, some things get introduced then expanded upon or reused after that point. It doesn't make everything new we see without foreshadowing an ass pull as some would claim. Not in your case but in others's cases they may view something as an ass pull because they've developed pre conceived notions about things(how they are or should be). Now unless the author explicitly stipulates a condition then breaks the condition something can't be qualified as ass pull.


And everything i posted constitutes an ass pull
 

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* An Asspull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle,

^ Definition of asspull.* Spirit weapons are not, reason is The director dropped a hint from Orochimaru who said "Itachi is stronger than me" and Oro had the "blade which can cut all things" which was capable of denting the indestructible staff: enma. Obvious foreshadow here. Kishi took most aspects of NV plot from mythology and referencing mythology as fact is not wrong as kishi followed the mythological pathway throughout.
Rinnegan and its abilities is taken from Buddhist mythology and religious contexts: In some branches of Buddhism, there are six realms of existence within the world of “desire” (Sanskrit kāma-dhātu) into which one can be reborn while within the cycle of Samsara: the god or deva realm, the asura or demigod realm, the human realm, the animal realm, the preta or “hungry ghost” realm, and the naraka or hell realm.

Kakashi getting Susanoo was hinted so therefore not asspull.*
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Tobi not only once but twice, no, thrice praised Kakashi in the War arc for his mastery of Sharingaj despite his non uchiha body.
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- Foreshadow of Kakashi taking the role of "Jesus" and Itachi as the "Crucifier", a clean foreshadow to the future of Genius kishimoto sama, depicting the fact kakashi would eventually save the world and he did just that in the nick of time and saved team 7 from Kaguya who was about to kill Sakura.
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- Deidara compared Kakashi's sharingan usage to Itachi, who was called the best Sharingan user in history. Clean foreshadow again.
- Obito's soul exists in his body, sharingan is the eye of the heart or feelings and thus Susano'O can be transfered that way. Also what was kakashi famous for? Copying jutsu. Could he have Copied Susano'O, cemented from the fact that his Susano'O has a cut mark in its eye, proving the Susano'O is his and his own?
- Kakashi got six path power. What is a Susanoo?
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- Kakashi doesn't have blood of uchiha? He has the six paths power which was gifted to indra and not asura. Susanoo is a power so Kakashi has Six path power casually passes the requirement.

Asspull is not the answer to ill comprehension of the manga.
 

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And everything i posted constitutes an ass pull

The first one definitely was an ass pull, second one can't say 3rd one was Orochimaru's arrogance. Anyway other topic was to define ass pull that's why I never gave examples.
 

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You wanna see ass pulls? Look at Boruto. lmao
 

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* An Asspull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle,

^ Definition of asspull.* Spirit weapons are not, reason is The director dropped a hint from Orochimaru who said "Itachi is stronger than me" and Oro had the "blade which can cut all things" which was capable of denting the indestructible staff: enma. Obvious foreshadow here. Kishi took most aspects of NV plot from mythology and referencing mythology as fact is not wrong as kishi followed the mythological pathway throughout.
Rinnegan and its abilities is taken from Buddhist mythology and religious contexts: In some branches of Buddhism, there are six realms of existence within the world of “desire” (Sanskrit kāma-dhātu) into which one can be reborn while within the cycle of Samsara: the god or deva realm, the asura or demigod realm, the human realm, the animal realm, the preta or “hungry ghost” realm, and the naraka or hell realm.

Kakashi getting Susanoo was hinted so therefore not asspull.*
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Tobi not only once but twice, no, thrice praised Kakashi in the War arc for his mastery of Sharingaj despite his non uchiha body.
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- Foreshadow of Kakashi taking the role of "Jesus" and Itachi as the "Crucifier", a clean foreshadow to the future of Genius kishimoto sama, depicting the fact kakashi would eventually save the world and he did just that in the nick of time and saved team 7 from Kaguya who was about to kill Sakura.
You must be registered for see images
- Deidara compared Kakashi's sharingan usage to Itachi, who was called the best Sharingan user in history. Clean foreshadow again.
- Obito's soul exists in his body, sharingan is the eye of the heart or feelings and thus Susano'O can be transfered that way. Also what was kakashi famous for? Copying jutsu. Could he have Copied Susano'O, cemented from the fact that his Susano'O has a cut mark in its eye, proving the Susano'O is his and his own?
- Kakashi got six path power. What is a Susanoo?
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- Kakashi doesn't have blood of uchiha? He has the six paths power which was gifted to indra and not asura. Susanoo is a power so Kakashi has Six path power casually passes the requirement.

Asspull is not the answer to ill comprehension of the manga.
Good points
 
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