y u do dis?

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Why do people use religion to justify control over other human beings? Why use religion to hide over their own insecurities and biases and then suppress and control other human beings as a result of these supposedly "true" nuances? It's worse when people target and destroy other human beings, but when it's worst when they use a social or political agenda to justify this oppression and subjugation.

As a person, I speak the truth, I show my flaws to others and I don't care about societal views of me. Though, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I try to get better. But other people hide their true intentions and act nicely while plotting something else entirely. And this, too, is fine because they aren't doing anything wrong tbh. They aren't hurting others or themselves. But then they impose onto others and forcefully assert their will and then justify doing so using religion.

And then you have the *******s that take this to a whole new level or control freakedness weirdo manipulation psycopathic control;

"If you don't behave in accordance with my interpretation of islamic or christian scripture and teaching, I will hurt you psychologically, physically or emotionally."

Sound like a bunch of cowards.

Using religion to justify terrible behavior.

When it comes to islam and women of islam, and notable men like the prophets too, there are positive attributes with all and yet they all differ greatly. There are many ways to do good in this world and many ways to follow a religion because that;s the beauty of the scripture, it is meant to appeal to the subjectivity of the human persona.

This is coming from an experience at my university; they felt quite inclined to believe that because the best thing to do in Islam was to convert a non-muslim to muslim so all muslims should therefore do this.

No.

Muslims are different in the way they were brought up and their own world views and because they are human, they are capable to behave differently as per their own unique designs. A person who feels that they should not interfere with other people's lives would not be inclined to approach others and try to get them to convert, so as muslims, they should be aware that this individual would rather not participate in that course of action - which is fine. In contrast, this muslim may be good at creating things or innovating or problem solving, so they would fit best in a different part of the community such as in fund raising or new means of improving already existing systems or structures.

It's foolish to think that because something is the best way to do a thing, that all must do it.

Other people might not even want to participate in these events or other events because they are going through something of their own.

Personally, I'd like to do things and act in ways that are good to all people and not impose islam at all. By being the best version of myself, people might get interested and approach me to which I'd respond positively about the religion; but it would be their choice of course. I don't believe in the imposition of ideologies onto others.

And honestly, it goes to a very rigid and at the same time turbulent extent,

"You cannot simply be connected to Allah emotionally, you must be conscious of or think about Allah in the way we feel one must in order to fully 'be serving Allah.'"

This is ridiculous.

Humans were made in order to be different. We can still be a part of an Ummah, but we do not all have to think or act the same way. We each are different, so our service to Allah would be different. And that's the beauty of it; the diversity. So when did diversity become a bad thing when it came to 'thought'?

So I'd have to cover myself entirely or destroy my thinking entirely for others of my beautiful religion to "feel secure" ?

What part of that is islam?

Tolerance in Islam is not just about muslims being tolerant of others muslims or one race tolerating other races; it's moreso about tolerance within the muslim ummah. To understand that individuals are different and think different and act different and that's okay.

After all, for every individual; it is between them and Allah what they do and do not do.
 

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It's because they cannot take responsibility for themselves, they need someone to blame, or cannot explain themselves of why that person acts a certain way. And Religion is used as a tool to spread your personal views anyway.
 
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I don't take religion that seriously...I mean, look at it.

If you do take it seriously, then good luck...

It's a bunch of "statements"...said by word of mouth and written in a book...what's there to take seriously.Everyone's making a big deal out of nothing.You're bothered by "statements"...

You can't be intimidated by imagination...
 

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Do you think you can ignore some parts of religion and still call yourself religious? Like if you are muslim but you don't want to wear the Burka or the Hijab, do you still have the right to call yourself a muslim?
 

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Do you think you can ignore some parts of religion and still call yourself religious? Like if you are muslim but you don't want to wear the Burka or the Hijab, do you still have the right to call yourself a muslim?
Don't you think that defeats the purpose?

How disrespectful is it, to pick and choose what's convenient for you in a religion, and ignore all the "hard parts". That means you don't dedicate yourself, you're just doing it out of some kind of moral obligation or favoritism.That's DISLOYALTY.That's crazy, and it's pointless...to pick and choose what to believe, rather than just dedicating to it in it's entirety or just completely dropping it.

How can you pick and choose, if your suppose to actually believe in the religion. It just shows how obsolete religion is.Doesn't work for anyone anymore.
 

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Don't you think that defeats the purpose?

How disrespectful is it, to pick and choose what's convenient for you in a religion, and ignore all the "hard parts". That means you don't dedicate yourself, you're just doing it out of some kind of moral obligation or favoritism.That's DISLOYALTY.That's crazy, and it's pointless...to pick and choose what to believe, rather than just dedicating to it in it's entirety or just completely dropping it.

How can you pick and choose, if your suppose to actually believe in the religion. It just shows how obsolete religion is.Doesn't work for anyone anymore.
I know, you are not wrong, I just think it must be difficult for people to adapt to societies norms when they contradict religious ones.
Even if you want to wear the hijab for example and you respect that tradition, people might dislike it and see it as something bad.
And for a lot of people it is, so it seems the only thing they can do is leave the religion completely.
 

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Religion is pretty stupid in my opinion, considered it's just a cash cow and takes advantage of people
Modern Christianity has become this way, unfortunately. Especially in Africa. Pastors claiming to doing miracles and getting money while really they spend the money on airplanes and trips to paris. Guess that plane took you in the sky ad therefore closer to God; but that's none of my business.

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Do you think you can ignore some parts of religion and still call yourself religious? Like if you are muslim but you don't want to wear the Burka or the Hijab, do you still have the right to call yourself a muslim?
Don't you think that defeats the purpose?

How disrespectful is it, to pick and choose what's convenient for you in a religion, and ignore all the "hard parts". That means you don't dedicate yourself, you're just doing it out of some kind of moral obligation or favoritism.That's DISLOYALTY.That's crazy, and it's pointless...to pick and choose what to believe, rather than just dedicating to it in it's entirety or just completely dropping it.

How can you pick and choose, if your suppose to actually believe in the religion. It just shows how obsolete religion is.Doesn't work for anyone anymore.
I know, you are not wrong, I just think it must be difficult for people to adapt to societies norms when they contradict religious ones.
Even if you want to wear the hijab for example and you respect that tradition, people might dislike it and see it as something bad.
And for a lot of people it is, so it seems the only thing they can do is leave the religion completely.
But it's between them and Allah at the end of the day; why must you, as a third party, intervene to force them to do otherwise?
 
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