Sarada's 1 tomoe sharingan abilties DID NOT RECON the story. Here's why.

[Jinrou]

That's just a Sharingan ability that Sasuke shows more vividly once awakening the third-tomoe.

Nothing to copy when fighting Haku. Haku was a Kekkei Genkai user. Even if Sasuke wanted to copy Haku, it'd be useless.

Sasuke had no trouble seeing through movements before, the issue was that Naruto's speed had increased, but the eyes weren't advanced enough to see through it, despite his body being able to. Sasuke's clairvoyance was merely Kishimoto showing us the Sharingan's precognition in a more vivid sense.

If Kishimoto wanted us to believe the stages granted new abilities, it'd be in the databook.

The issue is this"Precognition" word that no one seems to know where it was coined from. The Sharingan's ability is clairvoyance not precognition. Its there in the DB.

Of course Sasuke had no problems seeing through movements.. with increased clarity of perception, you are able to track high speeds so except one was as fast as 1T Naruto, 1 and 2T are well able to read/track the movements. Case in point, Haku iirc.

Edit: DB1

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Sharingan (Copy Wheel Eye)
Kekkei Genkai, Supplementary, Close to long-range

Users: Hatake Kakashi, Uchiha Sasuke

The Uchiha Clan’s God-given, clairvoyant doujutsu, transmitted by blood!! Seeing through something and duplicating its principles for oneself.

The Kekkei Genkai withheld in the blood of Konoha’s finest lineage, the Uchiha Clan. This unique ability, manifested only in a mere fraction [of people] even within the clan, is characterized by comma-shaped markings in one’s pupils. On top of an all-encompassing insight and powerful hypnosis, these eyes are hosts to a jutsu-copying ability that memorizes the techniques their gaze falls upon in an instant, and replicates them. Just like Kakashi who, in his fight against Zabuza, used it in such a way as to look like he could predict the future; according to their methods of use, the field of variations the caster can apply to their offense and defense expands indefinitely!!

And so on..

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Lmao uchiha is the strongest clan for a reason imo, madara was considered the strongest shinobi too.

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guess why? Sharingan can use all sorts of jutsu once the genetic adaptability is met. Even handseal-less jutsu stated in the databook. This scan also proves madara was holding back for senju hashirama's cells in that fight.

 

[Jiren]

The issue is this"Precognition" word that no one seems to know where it was coined from. The Sharingan's ability is clairvoyance not precognition. Its there in the DB tyrance posted.

Of course Sasuke had no problems seeing through movements.. with increased clarity of perception, you are able to track high speeds so except one was as fast as 1T Naruto, 1 and 2T are well able to read/track the movements. Case in point, Haku iirc.

Maybe we need to have a daily reminder to call it clairvoyance because its all seems to easy for us to forget that we've been using the wrong word to describe the sharingan abilities.

 

[The Flâsh1]

She will develop quite nicely in the future.

 

[Jinrou]

Maybe we need to have a daily reminder to call it clairvoyance because its all seems to easy for us to forget that we've been using the wrong word to describe the sharingan abilities.

Shouldn't really matter though.. Sasuke's comments about the eyes in VoTE 1 suggest the eye wasn't capable of that ability in any capacity prior to that moment. Except you can tell me a valid reason as to why the ability to see an attack before it happens is the only ability that 1 or 2T doesn't have, the sharingan grants different powers in each of its developmental stages.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Sharingan could probably copy gentle fist and revolving heaven. Theres nothing to say it cant since there are no genetic factors. An MS user could probably see the chakra points clearly, or maybe even base 3T could see fully, the chakra points. So uchiha would successfully copy and use Revolving heaven and trigrams style + gentle fist easily. A dojutsu's true power emerges when both eyes are in unison, which kakashi never had and he wasnt even adapted to his original eye; genetically, so thats stands to reason, whether two 3T sharingan working in unison can see the chakra points or not. Though it could possibly see every tenketsu point and apply the trigrams chakra blocking quite effectively.

 

[Jiren]

Shouldn't really matter though.. Sasuke's comments about the eyes in VoTE 1 suggest the eye wasn't capable of that ability in any capacity prior to that moment. Except you can tell me a valid reason as to why the ability to see an attack before it happens is the only ability that 1 or 2T doesn't have, the sharingan grants different powers in each of its developmental stages.

Wasn't Sasuke doing that versus Haku in part 1? Before the sharingan he couldn't keep up with Haku as he switched himself between the mirrors

 

[Jinrou]

Wasn't Sasuke doing that versus Haku in part 1? Before the sharingan he couldn't keep up with Haku as he switched himself between the mirrors

Sasuke went from thinking he was using clones to seeing that he only moved very fast when the sharingan activated. [

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] That seems to be only perception clarity not seeing his movements beforehand. And Sasuke was a bit shocked and says he could tell what Naruto was going to do next.. that's clearly different from just being able to perceive movements.

I don't watch the anime yet... but at the very least, if Sarada showed anything that hints at clairvoyance with 1T.. then that's probably a retcon imo.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Instead of a retcon, it could the difference of skill in using it.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

All true the Sharingan records everything that also allows the user to figure out what type of jutsu or what jutsu the opponent is using. Provided the user meet the requirements(genetic material etc) the user can use any jutsu.

Sarada coupling all of that with her extreme chakra control can technically learn any jutsu.

Sarada's sharingan is really something not to underestimate, and people usually do that...

Her copy abilities surpass anything we seen so far.

 

[Vulpini]

That Sarada greatness.

Quality thread.

 

[Jinrou]

Instead of a retcon, it could the difference of skill in using it.

What? Sasuke went from getting ragdolled by a version of Naruto

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To beating down that same version with what seems like neg difficulty just with the addition of the last tomoe in his eyes

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Its clear 2T didn't have the ability that enabled 3T Sasuke deliver the beatdown.. So it isn't a matter of skill when the most immature form of the Sharingan shouldn't have the ability in the first place.

 

[Vulpini]

Sarada the true Sharingan prodigy.

 

[Jiren]

Sasuke went from thinking he was using clones to seeing that he only moved very fast when the sharingan activated. [

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] That seems to be only perception clarity not seeing his movements beforehand. And Sasuke was a bit shocked and says he could tell what Naruto was going to do next.. that's clearly different from just being able to perceive movements.

I don't watch the anime yet... but at the very least, if Sarada showed anything that hints at clairvoyance with 1T.. then that's probably a retcon imo.

The manga doesn't focus on Sarada enough and in gaiden she was able to dodge an incoming attack using her sharingan. So basically I think we can call 1-2 tomoe the ability to track high speed movements and once 3 tomoe is achieved it will grant clairvoyance abilities.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I don't watch the anime yet... but at the very least, if Sarada showed anything that hints at clairvoyance with 1T.. then that's probably a retcon imo.

It's more complicated than that a sharingan user can predict(anticipate) jutsu if it's already seen them(via seeing hand seals) and chakra build up (even without the hand seals) if the iser has already seen them. That wouldn't be clairvoyance in the litteral sense like with 3 tomoe which can predict new movements (unseen ones). I think that's where people are getting confused and mistaking one for the other.

 

[Jiren]

This.

It's filler until Sarada do similar feats in the manga.

The field trip story is confirmed canon

 

[salamander uchiha]

The field trip story is confirmed canon

Don't tell that to him he's extra :salt:y it stems from insecurity about his fav.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Sharingan taps power from the heart so it depends on how powerful a person's emotions are; hence why Sasuke's sharingan devoloped pretty much vastly; do sakura having the deep emotions of Sasuke and the persistent determination of Sakura; would be capable of doing highly advanced stuff than even Sasuke, its not a stretch.

 

[Jinrou]

The manga doesn't focus on Sarada enough and in gaiden she was able to dodge an incoming attack using her sharingan. So basically I think we can call 1-2 tomoe the ability to track high speed movements and once 3 tomoe is achieved it will grant clairvoyance abilities.

I just watched the fight on Youtube. Great fight. Shouldn't and doesn't really matter whether its a retcon or not tbh. I mean when was the last time we actually saw the copy ability in full flow? xD

It's more complicated than that a sharingan user can predict(anticipate) jutsu if it's already seen them(via seeing hand seals) and chakra build up (even without the hand seals) if the iser has already seen them. That wouldn't be clairvoyance in the litteral sense like with 3 tomoe which can predict new movements (unseen ones). I think that's where people are getting confused and mistaking one for the other.

If its already seen a jutsu, then it has already copied it. No need for any predictions. And if you're referring to Kakashi and now Sarada doing techniques at the same time as their opponents, that was explained in the manga. [

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Tbh though, that fight just shows Sarada to be an extremely intelligent character especially with the copying. Impressive.

 

[lndra]

The only retcon in that fight is the Sharingan copying the Great Sword's techniques.

It would be like Sasuke copying Samehada's abilities with his Sharingan.

That made no sense.