[VS] Jinbe vs Zoro

[TheNuetrix]

My biggest problem with Jinbe joining the Strawhats is that he would mess up the monster trio. I would prefer if he became a commander on the Grand Fleet.
I don't think Sanji is stronger than him right now, but what about Zoro?
Who would win between Zoro and Jinbe?

Both have incredible physical strength, though it's much more likely Jinbe is stronger. They both have amazing endurance. Jinbe is by far the better hand-to-hand fighter but Zoro is pretty dangerous with his swords and i would argue he has greater range too and both are proficient in Armament Haki. In terms of speed (on land) i would lean more towards Zoro. On the other hand Jinbe has stalemated Ace, a logia user and one of Whitebeard's stronger commanders, and he has more experience under his belt.
Start them both off on dry land with reasonable spacing. Also there is a nearby lake/bay so Jinbe would have access to water if necessary. The slashes of Zoro's swords or the impact of Jinbe's punches.
Thoughts?


Also what about Enel vs Cracker. My money is on Enel.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Zoro hasn't showed us enough yet to be fully place above jinbe in my opinion. Mainly because all of his fights have been kind of flukes, however one cannot deny the range of his attacks at this point like you said. So personally I'd give it to zoro high to extreme diff

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Zoro is stronger

 

[Wrappering_]

Fishman dies.

 

[Love Cook]

Zoro's feats haven't lived up to Jimbei's hype yet

 

[Passerby]

Zoro kills,cooks and eats him.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Jinbe was strong enough to survive magma from akainu. I think he's durable enough to survive sword slashes. Zoro could cut metal like fruit but jinbe could easily defeat hody the most strongest fishman in FM island, even after getting buffed with pills. I would say jinbe is stronger. He would mess up the trio for sure, sanji and zoro would be below him, Luffy and robin would be above ofcourse.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Jinbe was strong enough to survive magma from akainu. I think he's durable enough to survive sword slashes. Zoro could cut metal like fruit but jinbe could easily defeat hody the most strongest fishman in FM island, even after getting buffed with pills. I would say jinbe is stronger. He would mess up the trio for sure, sanji and zoro would be below him, Luffy and robin would be above ofcourse.

Jinbei is a tank for sure but you have to remember that Jinbei is on Ace’s level. And we know that Ace is not stronger than current luffy and should not be stronger than Zoro.

 

[Love Cook]

Jinbei is a tank for sure but you have to remember that Jinbei is on Ace’s level. And we know that Ace is not stronger than current luffy and should not be stronger than Zoro.

That fight was even before Ace joined WB's crew.

What kind of ABC logic is that not even to mention with all the time jumps in between ?

By that logic you could also say: Look how easy Jinbei beat Arlong and how Luffy struggled against him.

Spoiler

[video=youtube;z6Co23L3NLs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Co23L3NLs[/video]

That's nonsense. Doesn't work like that.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Jinbei is a tank for sure but you have to remember that Jinbei is on Ace’s level. And we know that Ace is not stronger than current luffy and should not be stronger than Zoro.

Does Zoro's knife strikes have enough penetrative power than a killing intent possessed akainu's magma? It depends 90% on that. The rest 10% would be overall reaction speed and footspeed.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

That fight was even before Ace joined WB's crew.

What kind of ABC logic is that not even to mention with all the time jumps in between ?

By that logic you could also say: Look how easy Jinbei beat Arlong and how Luffy struggled against him.

Spoiler

[video=youtube;z6Co23L3NLs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Co23L3NLs[/video]

That's nonsense. Doesn't work like that.

This analogy of yours is complete useless talk. There’s a difference between two people starting on the same base level to someone who was a kid. Comparing somebody who couldn’t even punch a sea king out to a guy who’s actually fought in the New world before luffy was even born doesn't make sense.

With that logic, that would mean the rest of the supernovas aren’t even around the same strength level because there was a two year skip.
They were in the same prison level for Christ sake, and even then Jinbei gauged BB’s strength by the defeat of Ace. These implied little things should be taken into factor.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Does Zoro's knife strikes have enough penetrative power than a killing intent possessed akainu's magma? It depends 90% on that. The rest 10% would be overall reaction speed and footspeed.

If he can penetrate a stone accumulation of a whole city, then yes he has the penetrating power.
Akainu didn’t do anything special with his magma so how durable do you think Jinbei is?
Zoro’s powerful Haki should be enough to damage him.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

If he can penetrate a stone accumulation of a whole city, then yes he has the penetrating power.
Akainu didn’t do anything special with his magma so how durable do you think Jinbei is?
Zoro’s powerful Haki should be enough to damage him.

Akainu was pressing him down right? Magma can melt stone easily. Yet jinbei could tank it. I think he could tank zoro's slashes. You have to consider jinbei's attacks from the nearby water source.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Akainu was pressing him down right? Magma can melt stone easily. Yet jinbei could tank it. I think he could tank zoro's slashes. You have to consider jinbei's attacks from the nearby water source.

Not necessarily, I mean even akainu punched Marco and he punches Whitebeards wound. So we know there's a upper limit to who and what akainu can damage. Come to think of it when akainu clashed with ace, he was only able to burn him not take Ace's arm completely off.
So do you believe Zoro can take Ace's arm off?

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Not necessarily, I mean even akainu punched Marco and he punches Whitebeards wound. So we know there's a upper limit to who and what akainu can damage. Come to think of it when akainu clashed with ace, he was only able to burn him not take Ace's arm completely off.
So do you believe Zoro can take Ace's arm off?

I agree with you on zoro cutting ace's arm because of his strong haki, but if akainu could burn something like pure fire, doesnt that mean the magma not penetrating jinbei, mean he is that durable? Marco survived it because of his healing phoenix powers. Whitebeard was dead after some above 100 gunshots all over and took a cannon blast head on and was called the strongest man in the world. Not to mention his haki is probably on par with roger. So akainu capable of injuring such a man who is pretty durable and has top 5 best busoshoku haki shielding his entire body, must mean jinbei is at least close to that kind of durability without haki.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I agree with you on zoro cutting ace's arm because of his strong haki, but if akainu could burn something like pure fire, doesnt that mean the magma not penetrating jinbei, mean he is that durable? Marco survived it because of his healing phoenix powers. Whitebeard was dead after some above 100 gunshots all over and took a cannon blast head on and was called the strongest man in the world. Not to mention his haki is probably on par with roger. So akainu capable of injuring such a man who is pretty durable and has top 5 best busoshoku haki shielding his entire body, must mean jinbei is at least close to that kind of durability without haki.

Akainu burned Ace because magma is hotter than fire, it was a superiority of devil fruits. But the thing is that since he is able to burn ace by just throwing magma on him, that clash with Ace should've burnt his arm completely off if it's that powerful you're hyping it up to be. Right?
And Whitebeard getting burnt by akainu is not a buso haki feat considering the fact that he didn't use it to protect himself. Otherwise you would be talking about how powerful Squardo is for stabbing right through WB since WB has one of the best haki in the series according to you.
The only reason why WB got injured by squardo and akainu is because for one he is dying, so using buso haki like that is not good on his stamina and second, he was caught of guard by both akainu and squardo not giving him enough time to react because he's gone senile.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Akainu burned Ace because magma is hotter than fire, it was a superiority of devil fruits. But the thing is that since he is able to burn ace by just throwing magma on him, that clash with Ace should've burnt his arm completely off if it's that powerful you're hyping it up to be. Right?
And Whitebeard getting burnt by akainu is not a buso haki feat considering the fact that he didn't use it to protect himself. Otherwise you would be talking about how powerful Squardo is for stabbing right through WB since WB has one of the best haki in the series according to you.
The only reason why WB got injured by squardo and akainu is because for one he is dying, so using buso haki like that is not good on his stamina and second, he was caught of guard by both akainu and squardo not giving him enough time to react because he's gone senile.

So like it doesnt have the heat of real world magma?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

So like it doesnt have the heat of real world magma?

I don't think any element from Onepiece is like 100% like the real world but its pretty close. Like a real magma would burn right through Shanks' sword in the marineford world. And when Luffy was punching Big mam's Prometheus, jinbei said haki won't necessarily work because its real life fire given life. So what does that imply of a fire type logia user?

It varies

 

[Sakazuki]

Akainu burned Ace because magma is hotter than fire, it was a superiority of devil fruits. But the thing is that since he is able to burn ace by just throwing magma on him, that clash with Ace should've burnt his arm completely off if it's that powerful you're hyping it up to be. Right?
And Whitebeard getting burnt by akainu is not a buso haki feat considering the fact that he didn't use it to protect himself. Otherwise you would be talking about how powerful Squardo is for stabbing right through WB since WB has one of the best haki in the series according to you.
The only reason why WB got injured by squardo and akainu is because for one he is dying, so using buso haki like that is not good on his stamina and second, he was caught of guard by both akainu and squardo not giving him enough time to react because he's gone senile.

Well in real life fire gets hotter than magma, meaning how hot something really is isn't applied to one piece meaning his magma could be way way hotter than magma can actually be, seeing as he burned fire.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well in real life fire gets hotter than magma, meaning how hot something really is isn't applied to one piece meaning his magma could be way way hotter than magma can actually be, seeing as he burned fire.

Well it depends on which fire you're talking about. You can't compare fire on earth to something like the Sun that holds a way different level of stellar plasma that can destroy a whole planet if not theoretically the solar system if it so happens to collapse. That's beyong Ace's power.
So what quantity of fire on earth would it take to be hotter than magma? Do you have a list?
The earth's core is out of question too.