Ability Swap. Sasuke and Naruto

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It doesnt matter whether Naruto's the leader just as the emperor's of the past it was the council who advised (decided) for the leader. It doesnt change the facts.
You suggest Naruto doesn't do anything directly and receives tremendous amounts of aid while the anime actively shows him overcommiting to his job even to the point of putting it over his own family at times. Then again, anything to make Naruto look worse, no?

It's not like naruto gets an "up" in intellect just before he became or after he became lol.
its...not about "getting an up on intellect". Its about being qualified for the job. There's a reason Kakashi became the Rokudaime rather than having Naruto just jump in and take the position, and its certainly not strength.
 

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^ Don't be silly signing paperwork isn't a difficult think especially with a trusty side like Shikamaru there. I'm not tying to put Naruto down I'm merely stating facts if they bring him down so be it and if they elevate him so be it. Since I'm not a Sasuke or Naruto fan I don't have a problem.
 

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My point is that he didn't need to take the time to learn all that, which is why he used it from the get go. His Rinnegan being underdeveloped is inconsequential seeing as he was able to do all that despite it.
You're confusing practice with how difficult it is to learn something. He couldn't do it all because he didn't know how to do it all. If it was instinctual Sasuke would be making portals to get out of the desert Kaguya sent him to.

There are varying degrees of skill between doujutsu use, as seen by Sasuke being unable to summon PS immediately, and being unable to control Amaterasu effectively against Bee, and later controlling it at will. among other things.
 

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SM is apart of Naruto's non Kurama based power which is why i didnt give Sasuke RSM or BSM
So if you look at it from PURE power then yes. But from an application stand point its not nonsense.

Naruto WITHOUT BM or RSM lacks the speed of which Sasuke is capable of attaining in his base form.

However Sasuke gains the chakra cloak and destructive capabilities of BM mode.

This is why I didn't give sasuke RSM

You then have to factor in intelligence which Kurama helped Naruto out a lot.

With this said my questions are:

Is Base Naruto with Rinnengan/EMS faster or = to BM/RSM Naruto in speed?

Is Rinne/EMS naruto = to BM Sasuke in terms of power output?

I dont believe Naruto will be as effective with Rinne/EMS as Sasuke would be with BM. But this is why I made this thread.
Why would non Kurama based power or not matter? BM is EMS's counterpart and RSM is Rinnegan's counterpart as far as Naruto and Sasuke's development goes. Naruto shouldn't get Rinnegan if Sasuke gets BM. Nothing else.

Except Naruto has Rinnegan which is far beyond BM in terms of destructive power and utility so your comparison still isn't making sense. Intelligence is almost irrelevant. As for your questions:

-Obviously not. One enhances speed greatly, the other does not.

-Obviously not. Naruto has EMS and Rinnegan. Rinnegan alone is tiers above Bijuu Mode.

Rinnegan/EMS Naruto>>BM Sasuke.
 

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Why would non Kurama based power or not matter? BM is EMS's counterpart and RSM is Rinnegan's counterpart as far as Naruto and Sasuke's development goes. Naruto shouldn't get Rinnegan if Sasuke gets BM. Nothing else.

Except Naruto has Rinnegan which is far beyond BM in terms of destructive power and utility so your comparison still isn't making sense. Intelligence is almost irrelevant. As for your questions:

-Obviously not. One enhances speed greatly, the other does not.

-Obviously not. Naruto has EMS and Rinnegan. Rinnegan alone is tiers above Bijuu Mode.

Rinnegan/EMS Naruto>>BM Sasuke.

Rinne Naruto lacking speed vs Sasuke's speed + BM speed and Power wouldn't be a good fight?.

I don't see Naruto with Rinnegan overpowering BM mode Sasuke as easily as you depict it.

Naruto's base speed is slower than Sasuke's by a lot AND this is why I let him keep Sage Mode to help with reflex enhancements.


Naruto's fighting style is HUGELY dependent on his BM modes (Clones, arms) etc. He will be lacking this now and replacing it to be a much slower non aggressive variant of Sasuke.
 
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Rinne Naruto lacking speed vs Sasuke's speed + BM speed and Power wouldn't be a good fight?.

I don't see Naruto with Rinnegan overpowering BM mode Sasuke as easily as you depict it.

Naruto's base speed is slower than Sasuke's by a lot AND this is why I let him keep Sage Mode to help with reflex enhancements.


Naruto's fighting style is HUGELY dependent on his BM modes (Clones, arms) etc. He will be lacking this now and replacing it to be a much slower non aggressive variant of Sasuke.
Except he is and you arguing otherwise makes me believe you are trolling or you just haven’t read the Manga properly. Speed is literally irrelevant and has been irrelevant ever since EMS and BM. so I don’t know why you keep using that as an excuse to justify this thread.

Naruto being a slower less aggressive version of Sasuke is irrelevant when Sasuke is gimped. This really isn’t hard to understand. Rinnegan>Bijuu Mode. Thus the one with Rinnegan is superior. That simple.
 
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