Team Speed vs Team Zombie

[Haizaki]

You sound like a butthurt ass fanboy. Don’t post if you can’t address the argument. Nobody is here to watch you whine like a brat because I don’t beat my meat over a piece of paper like you are doing and have been doing for the longest.

All this nonsense was addressed. All these arguments you keep quoting are about Madara trying to cut Gai down. What we are talking about here is evasion. If Madara was taking Gai seriously he wouldn’t be casually backstepping him

Lmao miss me with the bullshit buddy. Of course you still haven’t addressed the argument but at this point I can’t be surprised. You’d rather whine like a pissy child then debate like a grown man. Don’t post here again in reference to anything I stated unless you are ready to sit your dumbass down and actually read what is being said. That simple.

No point addressing that nonsense, oh and you most definitely sound way way madder because I posted that shit of you make a fool out of yourself, people who've seen you argue these points and shit know you're probably on something right now, they know trust me so do blame Kishi for flipping the script not me. I, in noo way don't sound crazy on a keyboard, bye now and reflect on the stupid things you're saying here....later on. :hugg:

Oh and I never said Gai is faster than a JJ, you're being silly now.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

V4 Susanoo blocks any hit from Ay and pretty much anyone that doesn't have a jutsu on the level of COFRS. Then Nagato and Kabuto end them with White Rage followed by a strong enough Shinra Tensei, or Itachi cleans them up with Susanoo while they are paralyzed.

Team mid diffs in every scenario.

if Kabuto uses WR wouldn't it also negatively affect his teammates (cause itachi to lose susanoo maintenance iirc from kabuto fight, distract nagato etc). But I agree team zombie wins.

 

[Beans2]

Yikes.

 

[Edogawa]

The librarian and self-proclaimed PhD graduate used to be internet friends and now they're enemies, because of opinion difference. :lol It sure brings a joy to my eyes when these two kids fight.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Kabuto would blind gai, minato and A with white rage, then goes on to use tayuya's genjutsu, while they're on that, itachi uses taijutsu on the level of gai to blitz all of them, then uses susanoo and beat them down into pieces. Nagato furnishes the assault with shinra tensei and splashes them into sides and uses gakido to kill them by absorbing all thier chakra like he did to sage naruto. Team zombie mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

if Kabuto uses WR wouldn't it also negatively affect his teammates (cause itachi to lose susanoo maintenance iirc from kabuto fight, distract nagato etc). But I agree team zombie wins.

No it does not cause Susanoo to drop and no it doesn't cause Nagato to be unable to act.

Bijuudama is a physical attack. It is dense chakra which cannot be possibly controlled according to thay kumo ninja who was beside naruto during raikage fight. Density makes it more physical than energy.

No, it doesn't.

Never denied it was light, only asked for proof that it was. (seems like you didn't know that either because you originally replied saying it was EITHER liquid OR light

I never once said you denied anything, you just asked for proof so I provided it.

Maybe not in the real world but in the Naruto world it clearly does. Let's look over the DB translation again and think hard for a second on what white rage actually is.

Which is based on what exactly? Because I see nothing that properly supports this point in your post.

Key word: shape. What instances in the real world, does light ever take form as a shape? Light can be emanated from a source like the sun or a lightbulb, but light itself never takes a particular form or shape, only travels as a wave. That being said, if light takes a shape does that not inherently mean the shape can be altered or dare I say it, dispersed? Maybe not Ay's punches. But Rasengan and Hirudora, sure, don't see why not. While we're on this subject let's point out that the orb which the dragon carries is clearly

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which begs the question, what is stopping the orb itself from being destroyed? DB never said the orb is made from light, only the dragon so there is no proof of the orb being immune to physical attacks.

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That is the definition of shape. Where does it state that because it has a shape said shape can be dispersed with physical attacks? Nowhere, because it doesn't make sense. If something is in a certain shape you need to be able to physically interact with it in order to change said shape. You can't physically interact with a wave of electromagnetic radiation. That's a fact.

The bat signal is light taking the shape of a bat, yet you can't punch it and expect it to go away.
A flash light makes a light ray the shape of a circle, yet you cannot physically interact with it.

The orb being a different color doesn't mean it's a different substance nor is there any reason it should be a different substance as it's created with the dragon. Then we have the fact that they would have no way of knowing this anyway so this whole strategy is moot. Full intel=Knowing about the techs they use and nothing more before you try to throw that in my face.

don't know what you're talking about with the Madara bit.

Forget it then.

Distance? 50m to lightened Ay is nothing. Ay could blitz the dragon and none would be able to react. Add to the fact that Minato can teleport between teammates, I see a scenario like this going down

Then I'm gonna need you to actually support this with something, because there is nothing in this Manga that lets Onoki lighten Ay, cross 50 meters, destroy the dragon (which isn't possible for him anyway) and do this before anyone on the other side can react no less. How does Minato's teleportation matter here? That just adds more time to their operation since Minato won't make it in time unless one of his teammates closes that gap.

There's also nothing stopping them from releasing White Rage within Susanoo once Team Speed closes the distance gap, ending any and all strategies of "destroying the dragon/orb before it goes off", and there's more. White Rage gets off one way or another. That much should be obvious.

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either he takes it to an outside marker or places it in the mouth of a toad where it can't affect anyone plus this is an outdoor location in daylight where WR's effect won't be as strong anyway.

When you show how Minato will reach the orb before White Rage goes off without Kabuto or Nagato retailating then this strategy will become viable.

Please explain exactly what is the difference between an energy based attack and a physical one. Also, how can you claim that Bijuu Dama is an energy attack and Rasengan is not when they are the exact same thing in terms of shape and chakra form manipulation?

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Energy attacks are made of chakra. Physical attacks are not. Where did I say Rasengan isn't a energy based attack? I simply forgot about Rasengan, especially since the notion that Minato destroys White Rage with a Rasengan is nonsense to begin with.

 

[Haizaki]

The librarian and self-proclaimed PhD graduate used to be internet friends and now they're enemies, because of opinion difference. :lol It sure brings a joy to my eyes when these two kids fight.

Your friend request to me on my PS4 is still pending :lol, I'm not enemies with anyone I don't know in real life so this nonsense is as good as dead/unrealistic to me. Oh and at least you spelled librarian correctly this time and I'm not self proclaiming anything I'm not but sure as hell forgot about your existence, I don't know why people bother with you when you showed to everyone on this site that you're in support of what Hitler did. You racist and disgusting individual.

 

[Edogawa]

Your friend request to me on my PS4 is still pending :lol, I'm not enemies with anyone I don't know in real life so this nonsense is as good as dead/unrealistic to me. Oh and at least you spelled librarian correctly this time and I'm not self proclaiming anything I'm not but sure as hell forgot about your existence, I don't know why people bother with you when you showed to everyone on this site that you're in support of what Hitler did. You racist and disgusting individual.

Whoa mate, I find these accusations pretty insulting since none of them are true. You gave me your PS4 username to play Fifa with me, when I considered you a ''friend'' to me, Mr. PhD. I sure as hell didn't. And you're mocking my spelling? How ironic considering your shithole grammar doesn't exactly matchup with someone who graduated with PhD. Now you're accusing me of racism and support of a dictator. You're a despicable liar. A liar who wants to sell an image of himself on the internet that he is not one in real life. A PhD graduate is someone with incredible intellect, a trait you don't have at all and the librarian exposed you for it. You don't study PhD or you graduated with one, Haizaki. How about you stop accusing me of lies?

 

[Beans2]

KidGamer I will respond later today if I get the chance. One question though: it seems like you acknowledge Bijuu dama would destroy WR due to it being an energy attack. Then you acknowledged that rasengan is also an energy attack. Therefore, why is the notion of Rasengan destroying WR “ridiculous” as you said?

 

[KidGamer65]

KidGamer I will respond later today if I get the chance. One question though: it seems like you acknowledge Bijuu dama would destroy WR due to it being an energy attack. Then you acknowledged that rasengan is also an energy attack. Therefore, why is the notion of Rasengan destroying WR “ridiculous” as you said?

Bijuu Dama is a giant explosion that vaporizes Mountains. Rasengan isn't. It's a tech that doesn't even explode unless it hits something that can offer some kind of resistance such as a human body or a wall. That and I never once said BD would destroy White Rage. That's not possible if it really is just light.

 

[Edogawa]

Your age on your profile says 21. It's impossible in probably every educational system in the world to study or graduate with PhD, which you claim you are at 21. You have to be at least 23-24 to complete Bachelor first before starting Masters and later PhD, which everyone starts at their 30s. This guy is a bullshitter it's beyond belief.

 

[Beans2]

Which is based on what exactly? Because I see nothing that properly supports this point in your post.
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That is the definition of shape. Where does it state that because it has a shape said shape can be dispersed with physical attacks? Nowhere, because it doesn't make sense. If something is in a certain shape you need to be able to physically interact with it in order to change said shape. You can't physically interact with a wave of electromagnetic radiation. That's a fact.

The bat signal is light taking the shape of a bat, yet you can't punch it and expect it to go away.
A flash light makes a light ray the shape of a circle, yet you cannot physically interact with it.

Bruh I know the definition of shape. Posting it here was just you being extra. The fact that the light takes a physical three-dimensional shape means it is already physically interacting with the environment in a way that light does not do in the real world. Neither of your examples of light taking a shape are legitimate because they are simply light from a source being projected onto a surface. Not the same thing at all as light itself manifesting into a 3D form, which doesn't happen in the real life universe, so your analogies fail hard.

And I'm no scientist, but I know light is carried by photons. A powerful enough shockwave will scatter those photons thus destroying the dragon.

The orb being a different color doesn't mean it's a different substance nor is there any reason it should be a different substance as it's created with the dragon. Then we have the fact that they would have no way of knowing this anyway so this whole strategy is moot. Full intel=Knowing about the techs they use and nothing more before you try to throw that in my face.

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Why would Kishi color a literal manifestation of light black? When has "light" ever been portrayed, drawn, or colored black in any page of this manga? Black usually indicates an ABSENCE of light. The fact that the orb is black stands in stark contrast to the white dragon (which we know is made of light) means they were colored differently for a reason. Your claim of a black orb being "light" is supported by NOTHING.

Then I'm gonna need you to actually support this with something, because there is nothing in this Manga that lets Onoki lighten Ay, cross 50 meters, destroy the dragon (which isn't possible for him anyway) and do this before anyone on the other side can react no less. How does Minato's teleportation matter here? That just adds more time to their operation since Minato won't make it in time unless one of his teammates closes that gap.

I love it when people draw out a simple process into steps as to make it seem longer. Ay would already be lightened by the time Kabuto vomits up the dragon. And

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What makes you think Itachi, Kabuto, or Nagato could? (If you can't locate your target how do you know where to aim your attack?)

There's also nothing stopping them from releasing White Rage within Susanoo once Team Speed closes the distance gap, ending any and all strategies of "destroying the dragon/orb before it goes off", and there's more. White Rage gets off one way or another. That much should be obvious.

This is why Minato's teleportation matters:

-Minato tags Ay and Gai.
-Ay or Gai runs as far away as they can when they see the light dragon emerge from Kabuto.
-When the light explodes, Minato teleports himself and his remaining teammate to where Ay or Gai is, safely outside of WR's area of effect.
-Then Minato leaves a marker there in case they need a quick escape again.

Releasing the dragon inside of Susanoo makes no difference.

When you show how Minato will reach the orb before White Rage goes off without Kabuto or Nagato retailating then this strategy will become viable.

He can teleport to Ay when Ay reaches the orb, then teleports the orb somewhere else.

Bijuu Dama is a giant explosion that vaporizes Mountains. Rasengan isn't. It's a tech that doesn't even explode unless it hits something that can offer some kind of resistance such as a human body or a wall. That and I never once said BD would destroy White Rage. That's not possible if it really is just light.

So White Rage is immune to ALL attacks, including Bijuu Dama, Shinsuusenju, Jinton, TSB. Because "it's light" and "light cannot be physically touched". That is your official position, just to be clear?

Summary of my points:

-The dragon can be destroyed w/ Asakujaku, Hirudora, or Rasengan due to the explosions scattering the photons.
-Even if the attacks simply pass through the dragon due to being light, the orb remains vulnerable and can be destroyed w/ Asakujaku, Hirudora, Rasengan, or a weighted punch- OR, can be teleported into the mouth of a frog where the explosion of light and sound will not affect anybody.
-Even if we follow your no limits fallacy of WR being immune to all attacks, Team Speed can still escape WR's area of effect since they are not trapped in a cave and this is an outdoor location.
-And just for the hell of it... if all else fails, there is a lake in this location that Team Speed can dive into before WR goes off. The water will absorb the vibration while they wait out the duration of the jutsu.

In any case, White Rage is not a deciding factor in this fight.

 

[Beans2]

Hold up, Evani once told me he was in law school...or training to be a lawyer, or something like that. Bottom line is nobody cares who you are on the internet.

 

[MightGai]

Uh...The only summon Nagato needs for this matchup is the Rinnegan Chameleon, which goes invisible and cannot be sensed by any means. You're saying Team Speed is going to hit the summon, but how are they doing it when they can't see it or sense?




:lol nope. Character using 1 hand seal or no hand seal for a Jutsu means he's extremely skilled that he doesn't need to perform all hand seals. It's got nothing to do with plot. Gai couldn't aim at Madara's head because latter intercepted him before he could charge his Jutsu. You're just pulling excuses to justify your nonsense. Ay outright says he's going at full speed and power, and Naruto dodges him meaning Naruto is faster. Stop it.

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This is the 5th time you ignored that Nagato will be fighting on air with Deva flight, and that neither Gai or Ay are fast on air. If you're going to mention this and ignore my point, I'll just take it as a concession. And no, the cooldown is only 5 seconds, it's not like 5 minutes or anything. 5 seconds passes so quickly if you don't know this. 1 simple vertical ST curb-stomps Gai or Ay.



> I don't know why you're correlating durability with exhaustion. Durability is withstanding attacks, exhaustion is something completely different. Nagato coughed up blood because he created a mini-planet while having used most of his Chakra prior. It's got nothing to do with durability.

> It's common sense. There 6 dead bodies; to move them and perform techniques, Nagato distributes 1/6 of his Chakra to each body body, so obviously the potency of each Jutsu is 6x times weaker. If Nagato is performing the paths himself, he's focusing his Chakra to himself instead of distributing, so it's logical that the potency of the techniques when preforming it himself is 6x times faster and stronger. Only exception to this case is when Deva Path is going to change the landscape. Therefore, every durability Asura Path Pain showed, it's 6x times better with Nagato himself. Also, op is talking about this Nagato:

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> It obviously paralyzes the target's body, otherwise Naruto with his speed could have resisted the attractive force, but resorted to Chakra Arm instead. Even if you are right, I don't see what's stopping Nagato from dropping a meteorite on of Team Speed with BT combo. Only one is surviving is Minato, no one else. You're seriously underrating Nagato's deadly combo.



Except this isn't just hype. ST has backed every of its hype with feats. It disintegrated Raiton and FRS Ninjutsu, and deflected every physical attack it came in contact with it. If you're going to make a case it's not repelling Hirudora, you need to show us Hirudora's feats and we all know it's not impressive, when it couldn't kill Kisame at point-blank underwater. It has no feats overpowering ST's repulsive force at all.



For the last time. The core will pull anything with mass. Kunai has a mass and it will be pulled, regardless of whatever Minato is going to do. This is becoming a repetitive.

And how is he going to move? Edo Nagato cannot fly or walk on his own. If he's just going to sit on his ass, he won't last long against any of the 3.

The only time that was stated was as I said with Tobirama's Suiryudan, so the rest is pure speculation (altough I'm trying to explain to you why it's not funny to hand draw 44 hand seals for show a jutsu). Wut? How did Madara intercept anything if not with his ribs? If you're going to accuse me of making things up (even though I'm trying to explain to you how graphic novels work in general), do the same *_*. There is absolutely no reason on to why Gai didn't aim a little bit to his left with the kick except that it wasn't his job to win the fight story wise.

Again, Edo Nagato cannot fly on his own, as proven when he walked with the help from Itachi since being summoned (plus he did summon the bird to move on the fight when flying on his own would make him much small of a target). 5 seconds were enough for a Sage Naruto (with no speed feats) to beat Yahiko, it will be more than enough for any of these 3.

Ok, so please explain to me how was it that a normal Ay could intercept Naruto when a fully speed charged one couldn't (and with no visible powerups for Naruto in the middle). I've already given you an answer, but I would like to hear yours (and again if you're going to accuse me of making things up, please don't spew that linear movement bullshit *_* )

Then why no character in pretty much all the series did cough blood after using chakra when almost out? Simple: he's in a decrepit state and cannot take much strain on his body (and again ,that's the Nagato they're fighting).

What you say is common sense has to be backed up with either facts or feats, and I don't recall nowhere in the manga stating that Nagato sends 1/6th of his chakra to each of his bodies, which in turn would make their jutsus only 1/6th strong. And no, in the first post he put this image:

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So that's why I asked if he meant decrepit Nagato in my first post. If he or she is reading this, it would be best if it's clarified which version of Nagato they are fighting.

Naruto was lifted from the ground when pulled, so speed doesn't have anything to do with resisting the pull. BT combo with a meteorite? what? If you're refering to the rock he pulled from the lake it just that, a rock, something that can be smashed by people with strong enough taijutsu, like the people he's fighting.

If I recall correctly I never said Hirudora would trump over ST, just that it would kill whatever summon Nagato is using to move (and unless Nagato would like to crush his own mount, ST is out of the question). Also if I recall correctly ST was not only repelled but deflected right back to Yahiko's face by an angry 6 tailed Naruto, so I wouldn't say it's almighty either.

I'm not saying that the kunai will not be pulled, I'm saying that Minato can push the kunai away from the core with the chakra hands faster than CT can pull it back to it's core. Then it's just a matter of teleporting to it, push it away and teleport again until the sphere is formed. Pushing doesn't mean throwing the kunai btw.

 

[KidGamer65]

Bruh I know the definition of shape. Posting it here was just you being extra. The fact that the light takes a physical three-dimensional shape means it is already physically interacting with the environment in a way that light does not do in the real world. Neither of your examples of light taking a shape are legitimate because they are simply light from a source being projected onto a surface. Not the same thing at all as light itself manifesting into a 3D form, which doesn't happen in the real life universe, so your analogies fail hard.

Obviously you don't understand what shape is otherwise you wouldn't be making any of these claims. White Rage taking a three dimensional shape doesn't even begin to prove that it can be touched. Holograms literally do the exact same thing and they cannot be touched. :lol My examples are perfectly legitimate. You stated that it having a shape meant it could be touched or dispersed and that is clearly wrong.

And I'm no scientist, but I know light is carried by photons. A powerful enough shockwave will scatter those photons thus destroying the dragon.

Which doesn't help your cause considering:

1. You haven't supported this with evidence.
2. You can't show that anyone here can create a shockwave powerful enough to disperse photons. :lol

If you are no scientist lets not go here, especially since this is basically the same claim you already made, that light can be dispersed which is false.

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Why would Kishi color a literal manifestation of light black? When has "light" ever been portrayed, drawn, or colored black in any page of this manga? Black usually indicates an ABSENCE of light. The fact that the orb is black stands in stark contrast to the white dragon (which we know is made of light) means they were colored differently for a reason. Your claim of a black orb being "light" is supported by NOTHING.

Lmao light can be any color, including black. Hence "black light" and "black light bulbs". Nice try, but I think my assertion of the orb being made of similar stuff as the dragon as they were created together from the same source is more legit than you dismissing the orb being light because it's black and not white.

Not to mention anything that has a dark color is made black in this Manga as Kishimoto only draws in black and white. Nagato has red hair yet his hair is colored black as it is a Manga. :lol

I love it when people draw out a simple process into steps as to make it seem longer. Ay would already be lightened by the time Kabuto vomits up the dragon. And

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What makes you think Itachi, Kabuto, or Nagato could? (If you can't locate your target how do you know where to aim your attack?)

Yeah, I'm going to need you to post something besides Ay blitzing Madara from less than 10 meters to prove Ay does the same to Kabuto, Itachi and Nagato from over 5x that distance. What I love is when people make claims without properly supporting them. :lol Not sure what aim has to do with anything here. Why would they be aiming for Ay when the goal isn't to attack him?

This is why Minato's teleportation matters:

-Minato tags Ay and Gai.
-Ay or Gai runs as far away as they can when they see the light dragon emerge from Kabuto.
-When the light explodes, Minato teleports himself and his remaining teammate to where Ay or Gai is, safely outside of WR's area of effect.
-Then Minato leaves a marker there in case they need a quick escape again.

Releasing the dragon inside of Susanoo makes no difference.

Now this is a strategy that actually makes sense. I agree here.

He can teleport to Ay when Ay reaches the orb, then teleports the orb somewhere else.

This isn't happening.

So White Rage is immune to ALL attacks, including Bijuu Dama, Shinsuusenju, Jinton, TSB. Because "it's light" and "light cannot be physically touched". That is your official position, just to be clear?

If it is light, no. If not, then yes.

Summary of my points:

-The dragon can be destroyed w/ Asakujaku, Hirudora, or Rasengan due to the explosions scattering the photons.

Which is literally based on nothing. :lol @ you if you actually think any of these attacks scatter subatomic particles about.

-Even if the attacks simply pass through the dragon due to being light, the orb remains vulnerable and can be destroyed w/ Asakujaku, Hirudora, Rasengan, or a weighted punch- OR, can be teleported into the mouth of a frog where the explosion of light and sound will not affect anybody.

You provided no good reason for the orb not being light.

-Even if we follow your no limits fallacy of WR being immune to all attacks, Team Speed can still escape WR's area of effect since they are not trapped in a cave and this is an outdoor location.

Yeah, that's obviously not what a no limits fallacy is. :lol It's immune because it is light and light cannot be touched unless you have some kind of groundbreaking scientific evidence that shows the smartest scientists of all time got it wrong and light can be touched.

Jinton and Gudo Dama might still work regardless due to their properties.

-And just for the hell of it... if all else fails, there is a lake in this location that Team Speed can dive into before WR goes off. The water will absorb the vibration while they wait out the duration of the jutsu.

:lol Then they leave themselves sitting ducks for Kabuto, so this is also a bad strategy. Only thing in this post that I agree with is the run and tag strategy. Team Speed still gets whooped regardless.

 

[Haizaki]

This is really sad that you believe the crap you write. I feel sorry for you. Now you're pretending to be another person. Last time I'm going to expose you liar.

You screenshot an article of a Nigerian who studies in London and majors in Economics, but you said you study in NYC, major in Finance and you're white. I won't even bother screenshotting any of it, it's a waste of time. Anyone can check your VM with Bronze and Apex, that is you're probably will block it. What you said about yourself in NB and the person in the article are two different stories:



I won't bother entertaining this fool anymore. It's obvious he's got serious mental illness, if he's going to talk bullocks. Anyone can tell this kid's a bullshit spewer by looking at your writing style. This is biography of

I live in NYC currently, and I do part time studies in NYC as well, so STFU. What happened to self proclaimed. You're just making a fool out of yourself son, lmao. Apex and Bronze what, why don't you post it. Can't wait to see that, lool.

Also, that diaspora interview was an interview used to create awareness for and inspire young kids based on that record, half the shit there was done in collaboration with the top people in the country to inspire them so posting the entire shit is irrelevant, half of the interview doesn't necessarily contain my entire life and cuts the foreign experience because it's an african magazine for africans in general, I mean my dad was at Harvard as shown there and I was young in what country? Far from him? Lol. and I said I'm white when?? Lmao they know you're lying. Ask Drae, Ask FT, I've told them this personal shit before in the past, you're fk'd up, and there's no such thing as "you're probably will" not in English language buddy -- See what I mean? I mean kid, do you think you're embarrassing me because you're an idiot if you believe that :lol? Or proving my point? I mean you think I'm ashamed of the qualifications? A young black african dude breaking records in a country primarily ruled by white people? You're a joke if you think it's an embarrassment. Come see me in New York City when you can, I got too much going right now to care about your BS. Also, I never ever played a different person on the internet unless I hid my personal life from someone I don't like but I need receipts cuz I absolutely have nothing to be ashamed of, anyone can see my shit, they can't take nothing for me, only a socially awkward and shamed person would be scared of this type of shit but I'm far from that kid. Though, you've been exposed here with your lipstick on your boy Johnny or whoever you did it to, your last pics showed you looked like a squirrel or so in reality.

Hold up, Evani once told me he was in law school...or training to be a lawyer, or something like that. Bottom line is nobody cares who you are on the internet.

When was this? Why do you guys lie all over the place. Draegod can verify this shit, you guys are just lying all over the place lmao. I barely even talk to you or like you like that to even recall the shit. If you have such information about me, I probably don't like you anyways for me to tell you that shit because I posted me telling FT two years ago what we're seeing now. This my conversation with you, where did you get the Law shit from?

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-- Bunch of liars.

EDIT: Oh look Edogowa the fool, this is me "lying" to FT about myself two years ago about what you're currently finding out:

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Lmao FOH -- You guys are just disgustingly lying all over the place but I mean, I don't care about such if you really think so and oh, Edogawa, I seen your pic in that PSN avatar and trust me, didn't think I should click the accept button the next time you sent it on my new one lmao but this is my conversation with you since you said I had one with you and Apex, I want you to point to these people where I told you that

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Mine with Apex

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I'll wait liar but it's all about receipts :lol, you had to pull that card to make me look bad because you realized my achievements were actually true despite these years of you throwing shots. Does it burn to know the impossibility is a possibility at 19? Uhmmm it sure does.

 

[Beans2]

Obviously you don't understand what shape is otherwise you wouldn't be making any of these claims. White Rage taking a three dimensional shape doesn't even begin to prove that it can be touched. Holograms literally do the exact same thing and they cannot be touched. :lol My examples are perfectly legitimate. You stated that it having a shape meant it could be touched or dispersed and that is clearly wrong.



Which doesn't help your cause considering:

1. You haven't supported this with evidence.
2. You can't show that anyone here can create a shockwave powerful enough to disperse photons. :lol

If you are no scientist lets not go here, especially since this is basically the same claim you already made, that light can be dispersed which is false.



Lmao light can be any color, including black. Hence "black light" and "black light bulbs". Nice try, but I think my assertion of the orb being made of similar stuff as the dragon as they were created together from the same source is more legit than you dismissing the orb being light because it's black and not white.

Not to mention anything that has a dark color is made black in this Manga as Kishimoto only draws in black and white. Nagato has red hair yet his hair is colored black as it is a Manga. :lol



Yeah, I'm going to need you to post something besides Ay blitzing Madara from less than 10 meters to prove Ay does the same to Kabuto, Itachi and Nagato from over 5x that distance. What I love is when people make claims without properly supporting them. :lol Not sure what aim has to do with anything here. Why would they be aiming for Ay when the goal isn't to attack him?




Now this is a strategy that actually makes sense. I agree here.





This isn't happening.



If it is light, no. If not, then yes.


Which is literally based on nothing. :lol @ you if you actually think any of these attacks scatter subatomic particles about.



You provided no good reason for the orb not being light.



Yeah, that's obviously not what a no limits fallacy is. :lol It's immune because it is light and light cannot be touched unless you have some kind of groundbreaking scientific evidence that shows the smartest scientists of all time got it wrong and light can be touched.

Jinton and Gudo Dama might still work regardless due to their properties.

:lol Then they leave themselves sitting ducks for Kabuto, so this is also a bad strategy. Only thing in this post that I agree with is the run and tag strategy. Team Speed still gets whooped regardless.

I concede. I don't care to argue on whether the dragon can be destroyed or not any longer since my team already has a way to avoid WR's effects altogether. Now let's get to the good stuff and discuss how one team kills the other. You start with a brief outline and I will counter.

@Evani I probably got you mixed up with Apex. I think he goes to law school

 

[Haizaki]

@Evani I probably got you mixed up with Apex. I think he goes to law school

That's cool, don't have an issue with that. Didn't think it was cool to throw that in with the nonsense allegations the other fool was making.

 

[Boss Hmeru]

team zombie has attacks that could shatter a landscape. combining the three is mass destruction.........team speed can mostly rely on their speed.....so it comes down to restricting their movement and delivering the final blow ......which kabuto can certainly achieve......although minato might bypass most.......anyway I think team zombie stomps

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

No, it doesn't.

Yes, it is. Chakra so dense, it cannot be controlled by a human being according to an old experienced shinobi and kishimoto. And yes the more dense a substance, the more touchable and material it becomes, though I'm not rocket scientist. It's common sense.

Energy attacks are made of chakra. Physical attacks are not. Where did I say Rasengan isn't a energy based attack? I simply forgot about Rasengan, especially since the notion that Minato destroys White Rage with a Rasengan is nonsense to begin with.

Though I'm on your side in this debate and I respect your points and arguments, I've to say this statement what you said is completely wrong. Chidori is 'chakra concentrated in such high amounts, that it turns visible' - Guy. So chakra, an energy, can be a physical attack, if its concentrated in dense amounts to render the final attack conversion 'solid'.