[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 883 Discussion and 884 Predictions

[Dannie]

I still dont get why you are reading one piece

Because I liked previous arcs, and want to see how it ends for future characters.

I also, unlike most of the sheep here, don't choose to dick ride every single thing about this story as if it is a masterpiece.

lmao he's so confused at people liking something that he doesn't as though he's not talking about something completely subjective. "Wow, people like this thing and I don't? They're so dumb"

it's even worse when this is large and by far one of the least goofiest designs.

And yet you're getting **** that people don't like this design and even made mention that some people would whine because it upsets you that some people didn't want to see Katakuri this way.

Oh boo hoo, go cry me a river.
And lol @the bold. Probably the most ignorant statement I have seen in this thread. Go get your eyes examined buddy.

old katakuri looked so out of place in OP to me I really didn't like it

So a dude with a huge mouth with tusks coming out of his face is better than this?

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Hey, If Zoro opened his eye and there was a huge worm popping out, would you like that too?

You're asking me why I read One Piece for disliking a specific character design makes you nothing more than a child and a ignorant OP fanboy.

 

[Mori Jin]

Typical One Piece chapter. Was expecting more from Katakuri, but Luffy and his plot no Jutsu smh. He literally needed Nami's help against cracker faught him for 11 hours with no headway. But now even when he didn't stand a chance before, Luffy suddenly "figured out" his weakness, even though Katakuri should have seen it happening. The ugly as **** teeth and design was stupid but it's One Piece, it's probably why he's got the name dogtooth. Maybe big mam cut him as a kid for having dog teeth.

2/5 for me, would have given it a 1 but Luffy's little comment about eating was funny.

 

[Olorin]

Because I liked previous arcs, and want to see how it ends for future characters.

I also, unlike most of the sheep here, don't choose to dick ride every single thing about this story as if it is a masterpiece

true, you just b??ch about it, but on't fret there is a giant community in manga and anime who basically just do that, pick apart everything and complain about it jsut to complain, I didn't see one person here bi??ching about what I think would be a valid reason to bi??ch about, how this chapter made the portrayal oh armament haki way more inconsistent (and i know why u dodn't, because u didn't even realize i had happened). but ppl can't be bothered with real issues like that, they prefer to bi??ch about small details and pretend like they know good writing, if u wanna bi??ch at least find the big and real reasons to bi??ch about something

as for my resposne to you, I wrote it because the way you wrote your post made it seem like you don't really like any of artistic choices Oda made so i rly don't get why u read it to begin with, now if u worded the comment wrong and u do in fact like them than it's really your fault. you also expressed the opinion that all of us who liked hte addition to him are absurd (adding a lol) and u seemed angry with Oda for literally writing One Piece int he way he has been writing it for the past 2 decades, so I think my confusion as to why u read it makes perfect sense.

So a dude with a huge mouth with tusks coming out of his face is better than this?

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Hey, If Zoro opened his eye and there was a huge worm popping out, would you like that too?

You're asking me why I read One Piece for disliking a specific character design makes you nothing more than a child and a ignorant OP fanboy.

I said it when Katakuri was revealed that I don't like his design, he just didn't look like an OP character to me, the mouth and teeth make him more like an OP character, that's an entirely objective view of a character. I still don't aprticularly like Katakuri's design but at least now he doesn't look out of place to me. As for Zoro, I don't htink there's an issue with his design as is so no I wouldn't like if Oda added a weird idea of yours, but you would only equate those 2 scenarios if u had no idea what my point was about the katakuri design in the first place

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Subjective vs Objective criticism. Everyone is entitled to a subjective opinion but they always mistake their opinion as an objective problem. There is nothing objectively wrong with Katakuri. Its all personal preference that they don't like the fact he has a silly side. This is more evident that you have people who love it too.

 

[Dannie]

true, you just b??ch about it,

Oh that's cute. We've had at least 4 chapters of Luffy vs Katakuri and the first time I choose 1 of those 4 chapters to give my distaste for something, you think I'm bitching. At this point, you don't even know what the hell you are even talking about. I don't remember ever asking you why you are reading One Piece for disliking Katakuri's original design because you though it didn't fit into the story of OP, but for some reason it's okay for you to assume and ask me why I should be reading this when I dislike this form? Not only are you a hypocrite with bad English, but you're also an idiot. I am not one of the few people on here who are announcing "asspulls" or people being nerfed on every single page of this thread. My only problem is how Luffy just magically found an opening to Katakuri's power, and how Katakuri's design being regressed to this form was done. He looks silly, which doesn't fit in with Katakuri's original character. Unlike with Pudding who was forshadowd and hinted to have some type of insecurity with her eye, Katakuri having an insecurity with his mouth was just thrown at us and it caught a lot of people off guard.

but on't fret there is a giant community in manga and anime who basically just do that, pick apart everything and complain about it jsut to complain, I didn't see one person here bi??ching about what I think would be a valid reason to bi??ch about, how this chapter made the portrayal oh armament haki way more inconsistent (and i know why u dodn't, because u didn't even realize i had happened). but ppl can't be bothered with real issues like that, they prefer to bi??ch about small details and pretend like they know good writing, if u wanna bi??ch at least find the big and real reasons to bi??ch about something

Keep crying child, I really don't care what you have to say at this point.

as for my resposne to you, I wrote it because the way you wrote your post made it seem like you don't really like any of artistic choices Oda made so i rly don't get why u read it to begin with, now if u worded the comment wrong and u do in fact like them than it's really your fault. you also expressed the opinion that all of us who liked hte addition to him are absurd (adding a lol) and u seemed angry with Oda for literally writing One Piece int he way he has been writing it for the past 2 decades, so I think my confusion as to why u read it makes perfect sense.

Are you incapable of reading or are you just being stupid on purpose? My top favorite characters in this story are not even portrayed as "silly" or weird. Law looks perfectly normal and same for characters like Lucci and Crocodile. You don't even know what I like and dislike as a whole to this story so way to jump to absurd conclusions about me and assume that I hate every choice made by Oda. Doflamingo, though he may be unnaturally tall and walks funny, I still like his design. Same for Luffy and his stretchy body and gear 4 transformation. A lot of people were turned off by Luffy's gear 4 transformation, and at first I was too, but I actually love how it looks.

I said it when Katakuri was revealed that I don't like his design, he just didn't look like an OP character to me, the mouth and teeth make him more like an OP character, that's an entirely objective view of a character. I still don't aprticularly like Katakuri's design but at least now he doesn't look out of place to me. As for Zoro, I don't htink there's an issue with his design as is so no I wouldn't like if Oda added a weird idea of yours, but you would only equate those 2 scenarios if u had no idea what my point was about the katakuri design in the first place

Good for you, I don't really care, now get off my dick.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

fuck to dogtooth and fuck to his stupid face luffy will whoop his ass listen buddy if u think luffy about to get stomped and lose important battle like this stop reading shonen because every shonen main character get some form of asspull if u don't realise this u waste your time over the years

 

[Punk Hazard]

Because I liked previous arcs, and want to see how it ends for future characters.

I also, unlike most of the sheep here, don't choose to dick ride every single thing about this story as if it is a masterpiece.

Here you go with your bullshit "You're dickriding." Why even start taking part in the discussion if you have nothing real to say?

It's funny how you say we're dickriders despite the fact that you've been riding the Kata hype train hard and I've been one of the few people in this section critical of Katakuri's performance and fan reaction to him. But yes, by all means, go on throwing out buzz word insults because you're incapable of adding anything of merit. inb4 you ***** out and try to avoid quoting this to talk more shit so you don't have to confront your own BS.

And yet you're getting **** that people don't like this design and even made mention that some people would whine because it upsets you that some people didn't want to see Katakuri this way.

I never said that people have to like Katakuri or anything like that. Unlike you, who's legitimately upset because people like a design you don't, I haven't said shit about whether or not people are obligated to like or dislike anything. What I did say was that none of Katakuri's prior hype has been changed whatsoever by his design, and this design will change the minds of people who hyped Katakuri solely because he looked cool without looking for something substantial to base it on.

Oh boo hoo, go cry me a river.

LMAO is this really coming from Mr. "I can't believe anyone likes what I dislike!!!"

And lol @the bold. Probably the most ignorant statement I have seen in this thread. Go get your eyes examined buddy.

Katakuri doesn't even crack the top ten goofiest looking OP characters.

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...need I go on?

So a dude with a huge mouth with tusks coming out of his face is better than this?

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Not only is he still this dude, making your complaint all the more dumber, but his mouth isn't even actually big. It was stretched for ONE page the way Luffy's mouth SOMETIMES stretches, and you're gonna treat that as his default design? If you look at Katkauri and the only thing you see is the big mouth even when his mouth is a normal size, then the problem is you, not him.

Hey, If Zoro opened his eye and there was a huge worm popping out, would you like that too?

This is no way the same thing.

You're asking me why I read One Piece for disliking a specific character design makes you nothing more than a child and a ignorant OP fanboy.

You're disliking a particular character design when it's a VERY common trope in OP. It's a very valid question, since if one instance of this has you this tight, it's a wonder how you've made it through One Piece.

Typical One Piece chapter. Was expecting more from Katakuri, but Luffy and his plot no Jutsu smh. He literally needed Nami's help against cracker faught him for 11 hours with no headway.

Can't compare Katakuri vs Luffy to Cracker vs Luffy anymore.

But now even when he didn't stand a chance before, Luffy suddenly "figured out" his weakness, even though Katakuri should have seen it happening.

Yes, Katakuri should used his foresight to see the thing that causes him to be unable to use his foresight. This makes perfect sense.

 

[LordRaikage]

Because I liked previous arcs, and want to see how it ends for future characters.

I also, unlike most of the sheep here, don't choose to dick ride every single thing about this story as if it is a masterpiece.



And yet you're getting **** that people don't like this design and even made mention that some people would whine because it upsets you that some people didn't want to see Katakuri this way.

Oh boo hoo, go cry me a river.
And lol @the bold. Probably the most ignorant statement I have seen in this thread. Go get your eyes examined buddy.



So a dude with a huge mouth with tusks coming out of his face is better than this?

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Hey, If Zoro opened his eye and there was a huge worm popping out, would you like that too?

You're asking me why I read One Piece for disliking a specific character design makes you nothing more than a child and a ignorant OP fanboy.

All you do is complain jesus christ

 

[Dannie]

I don't know why this nigga is trynna do this to himself but okay.

Here you go with your bullshit "You're dickriding." Why even start taking part in the discussion if you have nothing real to say?

Nothing real to say? Oh, this is the only thing you keep parroting because my taste for something differs from yours so you think your holy subjective intake of One Piece is so much better, despite me giving my own intake about this chapter already. What is left to even discuss? I have already highlighted everything that I liked and disliked about this chapter. You want me to kiss your ass and say I was wrong? Yeah, your ass would like that wouldn't you?

Saying you guys are dickriding hasn't even been the basis of my argument not to mention I have added plenty more to this discussion already, unlike the "asspull" only sayers. If you want to pout and get upset at me for not liking this character design because it's "natural" for characters to look this way in OP then it makes perfect sense for me to say that you are dickriding OP because this is exactly what you have been displaying.

You are only choosing to target me NOW when I have pretty much disliked how other characters have looked before because you don't like how I have been "overhyping" Katakuri and being fond of his previous design.

It's funny how you say we're dickriders despite the fact that you've been riding the Kata hype train hard

This is not even the same thing, so don't even equate the two.

and I've been one of the few people in this section critical of Katakuri's performance and fan reaction to him.

Would you like a gold star?

But yes, by all means, go on throwing out buzz word insults because you're incapable of adding anything of merit.

Maybe you've been asleep these past 5 pages or maybe you're just this daft.

inb4 you ***** out and try to avoid quoting this to talk more shit so you don't have to confront your own BS.

You thought. You're not even saying anything of worth but you want to sit here and say that I have nothing to add.

"People who liked the chapter and had no complaints and liked the design gets a free pass, but those who somewhat didn't like the chapter and didn't like how Katakuri looks with his mouth shown shouldn't be discussing and having nothing of worth to add."

You sound grade A stupid right now.

I never said that people have to like Katakuri or anything like that. Unlike you, who's legitimately upset because people like a design you don't,

Quote me where I said I am upset that people liked the design. I don't give a flying shit if you like it or not, but don't question me on why I am following the story because I don't like a new revelation to a character I liked.

LMAO is this really coming from Mr. "I can't believe anyone likes what I dislike!!!"

Again with the misinformation. You are literally whining about me not liking Katakuri's face, when I don't give two shits if people like it or not. I have made careless remarks in earlier pages but if you choose to like this then good for you. No skin off my bones.

Katakuri doesn't even crack the top ten goofiest looking OP characters.

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...need I go on?

And yet from jumpstreet we all KNEW or it was slightly hinted that these guys looked goofy or had a weird quirk to them from the start, so way to go. You are showing me characters who had really no hidden secrets versus a man who was introduced and thought to be this badass officer only to be an ogre of sorts of an entirely different persona. Kay.

Not only is he still this dude, making your complaint all the more dumber, but his mouth isn't even actually big. It was stretched for ONE page the way Luffy's mouth SOMETIMES stretches, and you're gonna treat that as his default design? If you look at Katkauri and the only thing you see is the big mouth even when his mouth is a normal size, then the problem is you, not him.

I already know he doesn't have a huge mouth, or otherwise it would've poked out even while he had the cloth over it. I am saying it still looked ridiculous when he stretched it. If Oda decided to draw Law like that it would be ridiculous.

This is no way the same thing.

Thanks for answering my question.

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You're disliking a particular character design when it's a VERY common trope in OP. It's a very valid question, since if one instance of this has you this tight, it's a wonder how you've made it through One Piece.

It's not a valid question because this is the first time I have been turned off and irked by a character design, because it specifically is a character that I enjoyed.
Despite their being so many quirky and weird characters in OP, most of them are not even my favorite, so it doesn't bother me as much as seeing someone I like get turned into this.

You are literally asking me why do I read OP when I don't even normally or rarely complain about character designs? [SARCASM]Yes, what a very valid question indeed.[/SARCASM]

All you do is complain jesus christ

I see you're still upset because I don't believe in God.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nothing real to say? Oh, this is the only thing you keep parroting because my taste for something differs from yours so you think your holy subjective intake of One Piece is so much better,

This is what you've been doing to others. People who disagree with your view that was something was bad don't just have a different view, they're dickriders because everyone's opinion is subjective and not objective, just yours.

despite me giving my own intake about this chapter already. What is left to even discuss? I have already highlighted everything that I liked and disliked about this chapter. You want me to kiss your ass and say I was wrong? Yeah, your ass would like that wouldn't you?

Except I didn't respond to you saying "I don't like what happened," I responded to why. I'm not going to argue with you about whether or not to like what happened, but when you frame your reasons as objective truths when they're not, you're gonna get called out even by people that agree with you.

Saying you guys are dickriding hasn't even been the basis of my argument not to mention I have added plenty more to this discussion already, unlike the "asspull" only sayers.

You actually haven't. Your arguments have been nothing but "I think this is bad and it is bad and can you believe people don't think it's bad?" rephrased in different ways. When your shallow contributions were confronted, your responses just got shallower. Hence why you had to immediately fall back on "This is dickriding."

Try again when your argument of "Katakuri having a weakness is bad" has an actual why behind it that's not "Because I think it is."

If you want to pout and get upset at me for not liking this character design because it's "natural" for characters to look this way in OP then it makes perfect sense for me to say that you are dickriding OP because this is exactly what you have been displaying.

Show me where I came at you solely for saying you didn't like Katakuri's design and for nothing more.

You are only choosing to target me NOW when I have pretty much disliked how other characters have looked before because you don't like how I have been "overhyping" Katakuri and being fond of his previous design.

No, I targeted your post because you, and others, have been acting like Katakuri's design goes against any of the things that gave him ACTUAL hype. Hence why I said this chapter will reveal the people who hyped Katakuri based on appearance and not because of anything substantial. If the boot fits, then that's your problem.

This is not even the same thing, so don't even equate the two.

Yeah, dickriding isn't the same thing as riding a shallow hype train. Sure.

Would you like a gold star?

lmaooo and would you Mr. "I'm not a sheep, I'm woke about a manga?"

You thought. You're not even saying anything of worth but you want to sit here and say that I have nothing to add.

"People who liked the chapter and had no complaints and liked the design gets a free pass, but those who somewhat didn't like the chapter and didn't like how Katakuri looks with his mouth shown shouldn't be discussing and having nothing of worth to add."

That's not at all what I've said or why I've been responding to you, but nice try.

Quote me where I said I am upset that people liked the design. I don't give a flying shit if you like it or not, but don't question me on why I am following the story because I don't like a new revelation to a character I liked.

Me either. Some people are even saying that he looks better like this? Like.. lol.
I know that OP has a thing for making characters look goofy and Disney-like, but holy hell. Couldn't have kept one character completely normal Oda?
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Again with the misinformation. You are literally whining about me not liking Katakuri's face

I'll ask the same thing I did before: Show me where I chastised you solely because you don't like his face, and not for anything more. I'll wait.

, when I don't give two shits if people like it or not. I have made careless remarks in earlier pages but if you choose to like this then good for you. No skin off my bones.

You clearly do, since you condescendingly mocked people who you've seen say they like this design more.

And yet from jumpstreet we all KNEW or it was slightly hinted that these guys looked goofy or had a weird quirk to them from the start, so way to go.

This doesn't change at all that there are tons of people that look goofier than Katakuri. When I said he's far from the goofiest, you responded saying that's not true, and I provided examples to show why you were wrong. Begin and ends there.

I already know he doesn't have a huge mouth, or otherwise it would've poked out even while he had the cloth over it. I am saying it still looked ridiculous when he stretched it. If Oda decided to draw Law like that it would be ridiculous.

It would be ridiculous. And also would have no bearing on the rest of his character. Just like this has no bearing on any of Katakuri's VALID hype.

Thanks for answering my question.

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Wow, someone didn't answer a question that was completely irrelevant to the discussion and failed to prove the point you thought you were making? What a twist!

It's not a valid question because this is the first time I have been turned off and irked by a character design, because it specifically is a character that I enjoyed.

This doesn't make it an invalid question lmfaooo "Your question isn't valid because I have an answer to it." First weaknesses, and now question-answer, you're missing a lot of basic concepts.

You are literally asking me why do I read OP when I don't even normally or rarely complain about character designs? [SARCASM]Yes, what a very valid question indeed.[/SARCASM]

Do...do I really have to explain the concept of question and answer to a grown ass man? You were voicing complain about a goofy design, so he asked you how can you get through OP with an adversity to goofy designs. Just because you answered his question with more information doesn't change that his question was perfectly valid. That's how the **** asking a question works

I see you're still upset because I don't believe in God.

What a strawman

 

[Dannie]

How is a question valid if it is inherently WRONG from the beginning?

If I say I don't usually complain about character designs and some dude asks me "why do you read One Piece for not liking one character design?" how is the question valid if I am proving him wrong with my response?

The question wasn't valid because the question didn't make sense to begin with.

But sure, I don't understand basic concepts.

 

[Punk Hazard]

How is a question valid if it is inherently WRONG from the beginning?

Because the point of a question is "The information present doesn't add up, more is needed. provide it." You giving more information to stop confusion isn't invalidating a question, it's answering it. The fact that you a grown man and this has to be explained to you is sad as hell.

If I say I don't usually complain about character designs and some dude asks me "why do you read One Piece for not liking one character design?" how is the question valid if I am proving him wrong with my response?

Because the only thing you complained about when he asked the question was "This shit is too goofy."

 

[Dannie]

Because the point of a question is "The information present doesn't add up, more is needed. provide it." You giving more information to stop confusion isn't invalidating a question, it's answering it. The fact that you a grown man and this has to be explained to you is sad as hell.

So there's no such thing as stupid questions? Illogical questions? Dumb questions?

He asked me "Why do I read One Piece" based off of me not liking JUST ONE goofy character design. How in any way, shape or form is that a valid question when I have only complained once?

It would only be a valid question if I have been repeatedly complaining about goofy characters, but he jumped the gun and asked this question to me because of just this occurrence.

I obviously know what the point of a question is, but if you have to ask a question that doesn't make any sense to the person you are asking, then how is it valid, and don't sit here and act as if what he said was valid, because it wasn't.

Same to you, a grown ass man needs to be taught the difference between an illogical question and a sound question.

Because the only thing you complained about when he asked the question was "This shit is too goofy."

That's not the only reason I gave you illiterate piece of shit.

 

[HashiraMadara]

And all of this is suddenly false hype because he has fangs and a weakness. lmfaooo

Imagine Shanks being weak to a fart smell. How will his fanbase react to that? Luffy can just continue to fart while punching him! Yeah you might be on Oda's side but this is sure some bloody sucker punch!

 

[WhistleBlower]

Stop fighting children lol , don't get worked up so much. Its just a fictional story! Like Damnnnn!

On topic: The chapter was meh. I knew Katakuri's mouth was fked up since he was covering it. And glad there wasnt a shift towards another scene this chapter, it solely remained focussed on the Luffy vs Katakuri fight. Gives Oda the opportunity to potentially fast forward the story...like Sanji and that finish up with the cake in 1 hour or something like that.

 

[Itachi Minato]

Imagine Shanks being weak to a fart smell. How will his fanbase react to that? Luffy can just continue to fart while punching him! Yeah you might be on Oda's side but this is sure some bloody sucker punch!

Lol you don't even know what the weakness is yet. Complain when you find out. There was no way Luffy was beating Katakuri without some kind of advantage and it still isn't even clear that he will win. It might be clichéd that he has a weakness but hardly an ass pull.

 

[Mori Jin]

Here you go with your bullshit "You're dickriding." Why even start taking part in the discussion if you have nothing real to say?

It's funny how you say we're dickriders despite the fact that you've been riding the Kata hype train hard and I've been one of the few people in this section critical of Katakuri's performance and fan reaction to him. But yes, by all means, go on throwing out buzz word insults because you're incapable of adding anything of merit. inb4 you ***** out and try to avoid quoting this to talk more shit so you don't have to confront your own BS.

I never said that people have to like Katakuri or anything like that. Unlike you, who's legitimately upset because people like a design you don't, I haven't said shit about whether or not people are obligated to like or dislike anything. What I did say was that none of Katakuri's prior hype has been changed whatsoever by his design, and this design will change the minds of people who hyped Katakuri solely because he looked cool without looking for something substantial to base it on.


LMAO is this really coming from Mr. "I can't believe anyone likes what I dislike!!!"

Katakuri doesn't even crack the top ten goofiest looking OP characters.

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Not only is he still this dude, making your complaint all the more dumber, but his mouth isn't even actually big. It was stretched for ONE page the way Luffy's mouth SOMETIMES stretches, and you're gonna treat that as his default design? If you look at Katkauri and the only thing you see is the big mouth even when his mouth is a normal size, then the problem is you, not him.


This is no way the same thing.


You're disliking a particular character design when it's a VERY common trope in OP. It's a very valid question, since if one instance of this has you this tight, it's a wonder how you've made it through One Piece.


Can't compare Katakuri vs Luffy to Cracker vs Luffy anymore.


Yes, Katakuri should used his foresight to see the thing that causes him to be unable to use his foresight. This makes perfect sense.

I just did compare them. Cause it's something that happened. Who decides which characters to compare?

 

[Punk Hazard]

So there's no such thing as stupid questions? Illogical questions? Dumb questions?

You'll have an easier time reading what's in my post, not trying to force things I never said into them.

He asked me "Why do I read One Piece" based off of me not liking JUST ONE goofy character design. How in any way, shape or form is that a valid question when I have only complained once?

You voiced a very negative reaction towards a goofy design. This, coupled with other complaining you've done in other OP thread(pretty much every chapter you're whining about something) prompted him to ask how you even made it through OP because you were complaining about something that has been present throughout the entire manga prominently. Pretty valid question.

It would only be a valid question if I have been repeatedly complaining about goofy characters, but he jumped the gun and asked this question to me because of just this occurrence.

Not really. Your posts show a disdain for goofy looking characters with a preference for normal looking characters. That's more than enough to warrant the question.

I just did compare them. Cause it's something that happened. Who decides which characters to compare?

Because there's a factor in Katakuri vs Luffy that isn't present in Cracker vs Luffy: A weakness that can be exploited. Prior to the reveal of the secret, the fights could be compared and used a benchmark to say that Luffy has no way of winning. Now that a weakness that can be exploited is introduced, the fights aren't 1:1

 

[Mori Jin]

You'll have an easier time reading what's in my post, not trying to force things I never said into them.


You voiced a very negative reaction towards a goofy design. This, coupled with other complaining you've done in other OP thread(pretty much every chapter you're whining about something) prompted him to ask how you even made it through OP because you were complaining about something that has been present throughout the entire manga prominently. Pretty valid question.


Not really. Your posts show a disdain for goofy looking characters with a preference for normal looking characters. That's more than enough to warrant the question.

Because there's a factor in Katakuri vs Luffy that isn't present in Cracker vs Luffy: A weakness that can be exploited. Prior to the reveal of the secret, the fights could be compared and used a benchmark to say that Luffy has no way of winning. Now that a weakness that can be exploited is introduced, the fights aren't 1:1

Luffy was struggling with cracker, and Nami had to help out with her water cloud thing. That was his weakness, making his cracker wet which inturn would make them easier to handle/eat. Same with Katakuri, Luffy supposedly found a weakness and is going to try and exploit it. That's why they both can be compared. Even though it's going to be stupid if he beats Katakuri, when he couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Luffy was struggling with cracker, and Nami had to help out with her water cloud thing. That was his weakness, making his cracker wet which inturn would make them easier to handle/eat. Same with Katakuri, Luffy supposedly found a weakness and is going to try and exploit it. That's why they both can be compared. Even though it's going to be stupid if he beats Katakuri, when he couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help.

It's not a weakness like Katakuri's though. Nami dousing the biscuits with water, while a weakness, didn't hamper Cracker enough that he wasn't still too big a threat for Luffy. If Luffy beats Katakuri because of the weakness, it simply means Katakuri's was more exploitative than Cracker's.