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It can be but it's not a Hyuuga Dojutsu.The Jougan is related with his Hyuga bloodline bro.
Hence why no Hyuuga members have it
Hyuuga Dojutsu = Byakugan
It can be but it's not a Hyuuga Dojutsu.The Jougan is related with his Hyuga bloodline bro.
It can be but it's not a Hyuuga Dojutsu.
Hence why no Hyuuga members have it
Hyuuga Dojutsu = Byakugan
Yeah it does in context.Doesn't really matter.
The Jougan can share the same Byakugan abilities, well it's already the case with the chakra network.
IMO other than Kenjutsu from Sasuke, I agree with SenseiSama.
Hyuuga's never had the ability to access the Jougan, so it's not a Hyuuga-dominant thing. Boruto got it from being a combination of Naruto and Hinata + other unexplained reasons.
So when we talk about lore wise, it'll probably be the case that the Jougan is related to the Otsutsuki Clan, rather than the Hyuuga Clan. And the reason why Boruto has, is because he comes from a strong Otsutsuki line from both sides of his parents.
SenseiSama's opinions are hypocritical IMO
ProbWe barely know anything about the Jougan but
Animator said that his eye's powers are not confirmed yet. So I would take that with a grain of salt- The Jougan can see the Chakra network
This too, but the reason why I'm saying it's Otsutsuki related, is because of Toneri knowing what it is.- It's related with the Ôtsutsuki
If Boruto was more Hyuuga than Uzumaki, than Boruto would have had the Byakugan like his sister. But the fact is, Boruto is either a balance between his father and mother's genes, or the Uzumaki dominance gave him the Dojutsu.I don't know why you are denying facts, Boruto is more Hyuga than Uzumaki. His mother have a KKG and he inherited a KKG.. It's not far stretched to imply that IN FACT his Hyuga bloodine play a major role. I'm pretty sure Momoshiki stated something similar.
:|Matter of fact the Jougan is ANIME only. Boruto eye in the CH1 is a Byakugan, they could draw a Jougan but they never did because it wasn't created back then. Simple as that.
No point in explaining it to you, you'll see it soon enoughI don't see how he is hypocritical.
Cause he's not playing the Hyuuga role. Himawari is.C'mon Boruto is a Hyuga, there is nothing wrong about asking for Boruto to have more Hyuga feats.
Animator said that his eye's powers are not confirmed yet. So I would take that with a grain of salt
If Boruto was more Hyuuga than Uzumaki
than Boruto would have had the Byakugan like his sister
But the fact is, Boruto is either a balance between his father and mother's genes, or the Uzumaki dominance gave him the Dojutsu.
He looks more like Naruto than Hinata, so that should be obvious. Even his personality
Show me a scan of a vein-less Byakugan.
Cause he's not playing the Hyuuga role. Himawari is.
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Except he is. 50% Hyuga/25% Uzumaki/25% Namikaze
You seems to forget that Kishimoto stated the reason why Boruto doesn't have the Byakugan
Assumption
Obviously both of his parents play a role but Hinata have a KKG and Boruto inherited a KKG. Are you seriously trying to debate, the simple fact that his power is from his eye is because of Hinata.
How is that supposed to mean anything?
Himawari is 100% like Naruto except the hair.
This is where the mark play a role.
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This isn't a Jougan, Ikemoto could draw it but he didn't. That's proving my point that the anime retconned the manga.
Wrong.
We don't even know if Himawari is gonna become a Ninja.
The two episodes where Kishimoto play a role are about the Hyuga.
Did you forget the discussion between Hiashi & Naruto? =D
Hinabaka look at boruto's jougan in the manga it has the pearl like circle in the middle. the only change is the black background it's called design change not retcon like pain's rinnegan it was different
Are you reading what I'm writing? I said the animator, who animated that episode, said that Boruto's Dojutsu [abilities] are not confirmed.Sure.
Translation said:The ability for example should be something like using Hinata's dojutsu and visualizes Naruto's ability to sense evil intent, and is related to Ootsusuki clan's different space dimension(?), best y'all don't think too much of it, the writer probably didn't think of it through. But in the future it will be explained with more detail
Except his physical appearance is Uzumaki/Namikaze dominant, and not Hyuuga dominant.Except he is. 50% Hyuga/25% Uzumaki/25% Namikaze
You seem to forget that Kishimoto never gave Boruto the Byakugan because he doesn't want to, whereas he retconned his statement with Himawari.You seems to forget that Kishimoto stated the reason why Boruto doesn't have the Byakugan
No shit.Assumption
Everything else you said was an assumption besides this. Like I stated before, BOTH parents play a role in the eye, but there's no dominance. It's an Otsutsuki-tied eye, not an Hyuuga or an Uzumaki trait. It's being a combination.Obviously both of his parents play a role.
Himawari has Hinata's hair, and her personality is more aligned towards Hinata.How is that supposed to mean anything?
Himawari is 100% like Naruto except the hair.
What the hell are you talking about? Boruto has the mark in the Anime, this argument is silly. It's not a Byakugan.This is where the mark play a role.
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Or, Ikemoto didn't know what he wanted the eye to look like color wise, so he left it unshaded. The fact that it doesn't:This isn't a Jougan, Ikemoto could draw it but he didn't. That's proving my point that the anime retconned the manga.
Himawari uses real Gentle Fist whilst Boruto can't -- yetWrong.
We don't even know if Himawari is gonna become a Ninja.
The two episodes where Kishimoto play a role are about the Hyuga.
Are you reading what I'm writing? I said the animator, who animated that episode, said that Boruto's Dojutsu [abilities] are not confirmed.
Except his physical appearance is Uzumaki/Namikaze dominant, and not Hyuuga dominant
You seem to forget that Kishimoto never gave Boruto the Byakugan because he doesn't want to, whereas he retconned his statement with Himawari.
Everything else you said was irrelevant and a lie. Like I stated before, BOTH parents play a role in the eye, but there's no dominance. It's an Otsutsuki-tied eye, not an Hyuuga or an Uzumaki trait. It's being a combination.
Unless you know something more than I, and the fandom, then this discussion ends there imo..
Himawari has Hinata's hair, and her personality is more aligned towards Hinata.
> I have translations to both of these if you want me to post it.
Whereas DB/Manga clarify Boruto looks a lot like his father, and his personality is aligned towards his dad too
What the hell are you talking about? Boruto has the mark in the Anime, this argument is silly. It's not a Byakugan.
Or, Ikemoto didn't know what he wanted the eye to look like color wise, so he left it unshaded. The fact that it doesn't:
> Have veins
> Is it one eye
> The scene aligns 99% with the Manga
Means that both of them are the same. You'd have to be ignoring a lot to think that Boruto's Dojutsu (the Jougan) won't be in the Manga.
Himawari uses real Gentle Fist whilst Boruto can't -- yet
Hiashi told Naruto he wants him to bring Himawari when she's able to activate her byakugan.
Chengxi knows more about the Boruto series than both of us, as he works closely with the content creators. That's not even a discussion.Chengxi Huang have no power, I don't even know why you relate to his post when it was supposed to not be taken seriously, refer to his original post.
Naruto: "It's like looking at my shadow clone"Wrong.
Naruto inherited Blue eyes/Blond hair from Minato his facial features, eyes shape etc is from Kushina.
Boruto inherited Blue eyes/Blond hair from Naruto his facial features, eyes shape etc is from Hinata
Considering Kishimoto said he didn't want to continue the series, no. It was something that came around last minuteDo you seriously think that Boruto Naruto Next Generations wasn't planned? They just find a more interesting plotline.
Except that the animator who did this scene said that the author doesn't know what he wants the Dojutsu to be yet.Except that the Jougan can see the Chakra network like the Byakugan.
I'm not talking about opinions here. Himawari's personality was actually stated to be more affectionate and kind like Hinata, she has nothing of Naruto's other than her facial features. Until proven otherwise, we don't know much about her yet. But she's the Hinata equivalent.I have to disagree, she is more like a mix of Hinata & Naruto with a bit of Kushina when she is angry.
Personality mean nothing when it come to genes.
So novel filer? When you can show me scans of Boruto beating Yurui w/o cheating, then I'll accept this as 'canon'.“He was a boy who had inherited his father’s golden hair and blue eyes, and resembled his mother with his gentle facial features.” (x)
“Blond hair. Delicate, refined facial features that looked more like Hinata than Naruto.”
Honestly shocked @ how dumb this argument is.Byakugan :
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It's not a Jougan lmao stop trying to justify stupid asspulls.
Again, do you seriously think that Boruto Naruto Next Generations wasn't planned ?
The manga got retconned, simple as that.
And he can't even use real Gentle Fist. It's fan service.He is always in Hyuga fighting stance even in the EP8/EP9 where Kishi is involved.
He was talking in reference to Himawari, because he told her if the Byakugan becomes active again, she needs to come down here. Re-watch the scene or I'll post the screen shots.Hiashi stated if something happen with both Boruto & Himawari.
Chengxi knows more about the Boruto series than both of us, as he works closely with the content creators. That's not even a discussion.
Boruto Movie Translations: "Naruto and Boruto are two peas in a pod when it comes to physical appearance" (Ask for the link via translation)
Boruto Manga/Movie: Has Naruto/Boruto parallel each other where their facial features are ALMOST identical.
So novel filer? When you can show me scans of Boruto beating Yurui w/o cheating, then I'll accept this as 'canon'.
I'm not talking about opinions here. Himawari's personality was actually stated to be more affectionate and kind like Hinata, she has nothing of Naruto's other than her facial features. Until proven otherwise, we don't know much about her yet. But she's the Hinata equivalent.
Honestly shocked @ how dumb this argument is.

Boruto's Dojutsu in the Manga and the Anime is the same.
> SP is known for changing colors of designs, compare Boruto Chapter 1 (future design) to his color scheme in the Anime.
Ukyo Kodachi told Ceki, that he isn't 100% with Boruto's Dojutsu, he isn't certain on what he wants. The reason why the Dojutsu is blank in the Manga, is because they weren't clear on the color scheme.
There's no Byakugan vein.
It's in one eye.
The scenes are literally the same.
Yet you want me to believe that this isn't supposed to be the Jougan, and that the Anime made this 'Anime' only whereas the Manga it's a Byakugan?
What a joke. Stop trying to make ass-pulls out of things that aren't.
https://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=673287
And he can't even use real Gentle Fist. It's fan service.
I can post more scans of Boruto fighting in CQC without the Hyuugs stance, more times than he has used it. Manga wise too
He was talking in reference to Himawari, because he told her if the Byakugan becomes active again, she needs to come down here. Re-watch the scene or I'll post the screen shots.
The translation talks about how the eye isn't supposed to be taken literally, nothing about his comment being out of context. Unless you have a translation I missed.Yeah exactly like the script writer that 80% just spread lie. Even mentioned that he don't know if Sasuke is coming back after Gaiden LOL.
Like I said Chengxi original post wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, fan like always over reacted.
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Kishimoto literally stated via script to Boruto via his father, that they look almost exactly alike. There's no talk about Hinata on his face outside of a Novel reference, which isn't even canon lol.Are you serious :|
Kishimoto created the movie character design.
Kishimoto intentionally make him like Hinata when it come to the face, are you seriously denying it?
Of course Boruto look like Naruto it's due to the fact that they are sharing blue eyes and blond hair. The main prominent features coming from Naruto.
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You are trying way too hard to discredit Hinata. I don't care if you don't consider the novel as canon, the anime/movie Boruto facial features are from Hinata.
It mentions in the Novel that Boruto v. Yurui happens (in three sentences or less) -- He beat him with the shuriken tricks Sasuke and Konohamaru taught him. Extra filler.By the way, the fight against Yuri isn't detailed in the Novel. The fight is directly against Shikadai.
I don't see how this novel statement about Hinata & Boruto sharing the same facial features discredit the movie or anything? Like I said, Kishimoto himself created the characters.
I'm just stating he takes after his dad moreYou know that the personality doesn't equal genes, right?
The personality develop where you grow.
Not denying facts, just overboard wank.I'm shocked that you deny everything related with the Hyuga![]()
They are literally alike.They aren't, even the gif that you posted proof it.
Where is it colored? I don't care if your not talking about the color or not.How is that similar?
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Source?
I bet you don't have it.[/QUOTED]
Posted Ceki explaining that the Author hasn't clarified what he wants with the Dojutsu yet two posts or above.
Because they are in both Anime and Manga. It's retarded to think that the eye's aren't the same, yet everything else is.How is that supposed to support your argument?
The mark seems to be connected with the eye.
The designs are almost the same.
The sword is there
The seal
The dialogue is the same
Yet the eye's aren't the same, because of shading?
Like this convo is retarded and I'm mind-blown
How?The eye aren't?? sorry but I don't see it..
The Manga introduced the Jougan. The Anime explored the Jougan.You don't understand anything..
The manga was released before the anime.
The Jougan is anime ONLY.
That's the difference.
The Manga can't retcon something that already happened. Unless your implying that Boruto v. Kawaki didn't happen in the Manga, then yeah you would have a point.The anime retconned the manga which mean that the Jougan is the new thing, yeah.
Where is Ashura's Sharingan? Where is Hamura's Rinnegan?The Jougan is purely the definition of ass-pulls. Where is Himawari Jougan?
This conversation is a joke :elmo:And now there is Boruto, what a joke. :elmo:
And he never uses it again in the Manga :elmo:And of course you call Boruto heritage fan service. Boruto in the movie also use the Hyuga Stance.
Doesn't change the fact that Himawari is playing the Hyuuga role. It's obvious.I agree that I was wrong but he stated that both Boruto & Himawari surprise him and he is concerned about them.
Boruto inspires to be?
Boruto looks like who in the future?
Boruto's fighting style mimics who in the future?
Boruto gets trained by who?
I'm not discrediting the hyuuga, but it's clear who he takes after more..
The translation talks about how the eye isn't supposed to be taken literally, nothing about his comment being out of context. Unless you have a translation I missed.
Kishimoto literally stated via script to Boruto via his father, that they look almost exactly alike. There's no talk about Hinata on his face outside of a Novel reference, which isn't even canon lol.
It's not hard to discredit Hinata when your reaching.
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He looks like his dad. Sasuke, and Naruto have stated this. Kishimoto too
It mentions in the Novel that Boruto v. Yurui happens (in three sentences or less) -- He beat him with the shuriken tricks Sasuke and Konohamaru taught him. Extra filler.
I'm just stating he takes after his dad more
Not denying facts, just overboard wank.
They are literally alike.
Where is it colored? I don't care if your not talking about the color or not.
The eye is blank.
There is a scar.
There is mark on it.
Whereas the Manga has the scene colored.
That's the difference. If your talking about the shading in the eye, your ignoring too much at that point. Obviously the colors weren't planned, but the eye itself? 1 +1 = 2
Posted Ceki explaining that the Author hasn't clarified what he wants with the Dojutsu yet two posts or above.
The Manga introduced the Jougan. The Anime explored the Jougan.
That's the difference.
The Manga can't retcon something that already happened. Unless your implying that Boruto v. Kawaki didn't happen in the Manga, then yeah you would have a point.
Where is Ashura's Sharingan? Where is Hamura's Rinnegan?
And he never uses it again in the Manga
Doesn't change the fact that Himawari is playing the Hyuuga role. It's obvious.
Boruto inspires to be?
Boruto looks like who in the future?
Boruto's fighting style mimics who in the future?
Boruto gets trained by who?
His comment was serious, but the information he was relying was not to take the information serious. As in, him thinking that Boruto's eye is a combination of Naruto's evil intent ability + Hinata's Byakugan power. Whereas he ended saying that the author hasn't clarified what he wants yet, so wait until the Manga explains it later.Yeah it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously hence why the multiple emoji. Animator have no power when it come to the script.
You know I can post pictures of Boruto and Naruto being paralleled to each other where they look 99% alike, even in eye shape and facial shape. To prove this argument wrong.Sure.
Same eyes shape
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Same rounded facial shape
Who is denying this? I'm not counting the Anime unless those abilities appear again.Sure, stop denying his Hyuga influence.
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Cause your ignoring everything.Sorry, I can't see it.
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This is what a Byakugan looks likeThe design isn't the same, in the manga you can see a little bit of "pupil" appearing ( just like the Byakugan ). It's completely different in the anime
Who is the author of the BORUTO series? Because that's who he referenced.Seki never mentioned Kodachi
The anime introduced what the Jougan looked like after being colored, but the Manga introduced the Jougan. That's the the end of the discussion.The anime introduced the Jougan,
Where is Ashura's SHaringan? Where is Hamura's Rinnegan?Exactly where is Himawari Jougan?
Thus proving my point. He doesn't use it outside of fan service, which is the Anime.He use it often in the anime. You know the anime that is currently 150000x more popular than the manga.
Hiashi: Bring Himawari when she activates her ByakuganEvidence? They are both Hyuga
Wtf are you talking about?- Are you implying that Sarada will spam Rasengan?
What?- Naruto look like who vs Pain?
- We haven't see him fighting?
- Are you implaying that he is limited to one master?
His comment was serious, but the information he was relying was not to take the information serious. As in, him thinking that Boruto's eye is a combination of Naruto's evil intent ability + Hinata's Byakugan power. Whereas he ended saying that the author hasn't clarified what he wants yet, so wait until the Manga explains it later.
You know I can post pictures of Boruto and Naruto being paralleled to each other where they look 99% alike, even in eye shape and facial shape. To prove this argument wrong.
Dude it's filler. He takes after his papa the most, nothing on Hinata is him facial wise. The hair is different, and his eye color is different (apparently). But statement wise, he's Naruto's clons
Who is denying this? I'm not counting the Anime unless those abilities appear again.
Cause your ignoring everything.
This is what a Byakugan looks like
It's the Jougan. They look exactly alike, except it's not shaded. Whereas the Byakugan is missing the most significant part of it's feature, the veins. It's literally common sense.
Who is the author of the BORUTO series? Because that's who he referenced.
You'll find your answer
The anime introduced what the Jougan looked like after being colored, but the Manga introduced the Jougan. That's the the end of the discussion.
Where is Ashura's SHaringan? Where is Hamura's Rinnegan?
Thus proving my point. He doesn't use it outside of fan service, which is the Anime.
Hiashi: Bring Himawari when she activates her Byakugan
- Boruto doesn't have a Byakugan -
Boruto gets trained by Sasuke
"Evidence"
Wtf are you talking about?
https://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=730867
I don't know why you keep referencing power, when we are talking about information. Seki works with Ukyo Kodachi, he's talked to him before. SO he knows more.Honestly, I doubt Seki have any power. Not to mention he is a newcomer plus like you mentioned multiple times ; Studio Pierrot can't be taken seriously.
None of those pictures you showed me made any reference to Boruto looking like Hinata. They all look like reaching hard af.And you decide to post Ikemoto manga.
I can do the exact same with Kishi design. Boruto take from both of his parents, it's hard to grasp?
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No. Ceki commented stating that the eye powers aren't existent, whereas I'm bringing up SP actually stating this is going to happen.Of course and you refer to a Studio Pierrot animator to validate your argument XD
Double standard Indra.. eww I'm disappointed
That's what your doing thoWhy would I ignore it? Trust me, I'm hyped for the Jougan.
The fact that your making the images as small as possible is proving my point. lolBoruto CH1
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The Mark is probably what replace the veins IMO, if you look at the anime/manga the jougan is activated after the mark.
Who is talking about the Anime? TF? The author of the Boruto series is Ukyo Kodachi, you know the person who created the Jougan?The anime isn't written by Kodachi.
The Anime starts in the Academy.The anime introduced another plot line so they can milk the series.
What?You aren't answering my question buddy.
What?The anime keep Boruto alive, you know that?
What??? You keeping ignoring my points with BS. I don't care if he's half Hyuuga, how does that answer my post???Boruto is half Hyuga.
Point blank.
So does Boruto look like Hiashi in the time skip or Sasuke?Your argument doesn't mean anything by your logic he is limited to one master.
*groan*Studio Pierrot XD
don't know why you keep referencing power, when we are talking about information. Seki works with Ukyo Kodachi, he's talked to him before. SO he knows more.
Ukyo is the one creating these things. I'm going to reference my SP points below since you can't grasp why I'm doing it for some reason.
None of those pictures you showed me made any reference to Boruto looking like Hinata. They all look like reaching hard af.
Tell me how Naruto you see here
Then tell me how much Hinata you see here, without posting irrelevant ass pics
No. Ceki commented stating that the eye powers aren't existent, whereas I'm bringing up SP actually stating this is going to happen.
I don't know if your reading these posts carefully or not, but it's getting annoying having to explain something so obvious.
That's what your doing tho
The fact that your making the images as small as possible is proving my point. lol
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Who is talking about the Anime? TF? The author of the Boruto series is Ukyo Kodachi, you know the person who created the Jougan?
He's the writing supervisor.
The Anime starts in the Academy.
What?
What?
What??? You keeping ignoring my points with BS. I don't care if he's half Hyuuga, how does that answer my post???
So does Boruto look like Hiashi in the time skip or Sasuke?
Disappointing.