[Discussion] So I was right about awakening

[Sakazuki]

I said that a logias awakening would be the same as a paras and of course (just because a zoans awakening is basically steroids) I got bashed because is a zoans was different than a logias had to be.

So kuzan turning ground to ice just an awakening after all? I don't get how his would be much different. I hope akainus awakens

 

[Greatness23]

Naturally

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Literally everybody knew that Dogtooth was an awakening, nobody disagreed to that. However Dogtooth is not a logia, he’s a paramythia.

It’s a special paramythia according to Jinbei. Kuzan freezing the ground over is not an awakening either.

 

[Guntah]

The usual form of awakening is to turn everything around you into your element, be it rubber, mochi or strings...but that can't be universal. There are just some paramecia that this just wouldn't work. Fujirora for example, you can't turn stuff INTO gravity.

Also, big difference from covering the ground in ice and turning the ground into ice.

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

Yea get rdy for luffy 4 gear pinball no jutsu form . The most random, fastest and powerfullest attck .

 

[MickNerks]

Logia and Paramecia most likely won't have the same type of awakening. Much like Im sure all Paramecia dont awaken their ability in the same way. Just because Doffy and Katakuri turn their enviorment to their respective DF type doesnt mean that how all Para DF work. Im sure Big Mom's awakening isnt turning the enviroment into soul.

In the case of Logia, we have already seen the awakening of a Logia and it is not similar at all to Doffy and Katakuri. That was Crocodile!!! When Crocodile uses his awakening he absorbs all the moisture out of what he touches. And before you say Crocodile didnt awaken his DF, on the contrary Crocodile was the first person to admit that he had, he just didnt call it awakening. He was also the person who expalined what a awakened zoan was.

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Basically, I say all that to say that Logia and Paramecia are not (or wont be) similar in awakening

 

[Sakazuki]

Logia and Paramecia most likely won't have the same type of awakening. Much like Im sure all Paramecia dont awaken their ability in the same way. Just because Doffy and Katakuri turn their enviorment to their respective DF type doesnt mean that how all Para DF work. Im sure Big Mom's awakening isnt turning the enviroment into soul.

In the case of Logia, we have already seen the awakening of a Logia and it is not similar at all to Doffy and Katakuri. That was Crocodile!!! When Crocodile uses his awakening he absorbs all the moisture out of what he touches. And before you say Crocodile didnt awaken his DF, on the contrary Crocodile was the first person to admit that he had, he just didnt call it awakening. He was also the person who expalined what a awakened zoan was.

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Basically, I say all that to say that Logia and Paramecia are not (or wont be) similar in awakening

Katakuri = Logia

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Katakuri = Logia

He's not a logia

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Katakuri = Logia

The author himself said Katakuri is a special paramecia. He was a logia at first but the author changed it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

The usual form of awakening is to turn everything around you into your element, be it rubber, mochi or strings...but that can't be universal. There are just some paramecia that this just wouldn't work. Fujirora for example, you can't turn stuff INTO gravity.

Also, big difference from covering the ground in ice and turning the ground into ice.

Sure you could, everything would produce it's own little gravitational force and it would either freeze people in place by being pulled in all directions at once or each item produces varying levels of gravitational pull based on size and makes it near impossible to move because you keep getting pulled around.

 

[TheLegend0713]

In the case of Logia, we have already seen the awakening of a Logia and it is not similar at all to Doffy and Katakuri. That was Crocodile!!! When Crocodile uses his awakening he absorbs all the moisture out of what he touches. And before you say Crocodile didnt awaken his DF, on the contrary Crocodile was the first person to admit that he had, he just didnt call it awakening. He was also the person who expalined what a awakened zoan was.


Basically, I say all that to say that Logia and Paramecia are not (or wont be) similar in awakening

It's still speculation, man. Until Oda himself confirms that Croc is Awakened, his use of the Suna Suna's gonna be treated on the same field as Gear Second or Third. It's just another way to use his abilities. I agree that it definitely COULD be that he's Awakened, but that would really be anticlimatic if a guy who was beaten by bloody knuckles was retconned into an Awakened user.

 

[Sakazuki]

Sure you could, everything would produce it's own little gravitational force and it would either freeze people in place by being pulled in all directions at once or each item produces varying levels of gravitational pull based on size and makes it near impossible to move because you keep getting pulled around.

I was wrong about katakuri being logia so this thread is shit haha but this take on issho is awesome haha. Good thinking.