So they're just making the Byakugan into a Sharingan clone?

[Prometheus 2000]

Neji was keeping up with KN0 Naruto just fine with his Byakugan. On the other hand, Sasuke wasn't until his Sharingan fully matured. That's implying Sharingan was the one who originally lacked any form of superior precog if you ask me.

 

[Jiren]

Neji was keeping up with KN0 Naruto just fine with his Byakugan. On the other hand, Sasuke wasn't until his Sharingan fully matured. That's implying Sharingan was the one who originally lacked any form of superior precog if you ask me.

Sharingan feats are better and the précog ability was shown since 1tomoe. Naruto used a lot more kyuubi chakra on Sasuke than Neji

 

[Prometheus 2000]

Sharingan feats are better and the précog ability was shown since 1tomoe. Naruto used a lot more kyuubi chakra on Sasuke than Neji

If you ask me, Sharingan only looks better because it was seen more compared to Byakugan. Literally no reason to believe that Naruto was using more chakra against Sasuke until he achieved KN1 by the way.

 

[Brady]

Neji was keeping up with KN0 Naruto just fine with his Byakugan. On the other hand, Sasuke wasn't until his Sharingan fully matured. That's implying Sharingan was the one who originally lacked any form of superior precog if you ask me.

The precognition was already there, as implied by Orochimaru while fighting Sasuke during the Forest Of Death after realizing that Sasuke could in fact read his movements. Sasuke's speed was already where it needed to be, it was just that his eyes weren't able to keep up with Naruto's speed and his eyes needed an upgrade before being able to properly follow.

KN0 Neji wasn't keeping up just fine. He panicked and quickly used rotation rather than just beating Naruto's ass. If Neji was perfectly capable of reading Naruto's movements, why would he take a risk like using rotation, knowing his rotation wasn't impenetrable.

 

[Brady]

If you ask me, Sharingan only looks better because it was seen more compared to Byakugan. Literally no reason to believe that Naruto was using more chakra against Sasuke until he achieved KN1 by the way.

The influence of the Kyuubi's chakra on Naruto is clearly stronger during the VOTE 1 Fight in comparison to his fight with Neji, showing that in order to follow speed's like Naruto's, one needs the Sharingan. The physical influence is quite clear, but you're just denying it out of your own convenience.

 

[Mori Jin]

Byakugan came first, Sharingan is the clone really if you want to get technical about it.

 

[LeSauce]

Lol then why are you discussing Boruto if it’s garbage? & you’re assumption is based of the talks of those people who’ve already read it right? so why ask them to re-confirm something you heard from them already instead of reading it yourself and developing your own final opinion?

I'm literally dicussing how trash it is. Are the writers so lazy they are just trying to remake a cheap Sharingan knock off?

Lmao. Lmao. Lmao.

 

[Brady]

Byakugan came first, Sharingan is the clone really if you want to get technical about it.

Clone of what?

The Sharingan is accessible by eating a fruit, the Byakugan was just there. Neither are clones, but to give the Byakugan powers already given to a specific eye shows a lack of creativity and ruins what makes the Sharingan special.

 

[Mori Jin]

Clone of what?

The Sharingan is accessible by eating a fruit, the Byakugan was just there. Neither are clones, but to give the Byakugan powers already given to a specific eye shows a lack of creativity and ruins what makes the Sharingan special.

Just turning it on the OP he called it a clone first, I'm just doing the same thing. Don't get all twisted about it. No one gave the Byakugan anything that wasn't there already at the beginning of the story.

 

[Brady]

Just turning it on the OP he called it a clone first, I'm just doing the same thing. Don't get all twisted about it. No one gave the Byakugan anything that wasn't there already at the beginning of the story.

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It says he can sense attacks, not anticipate, nor does it say he has precognition.

 

[Mori Jin]

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It says he can sense attacks, not anticipate, nor does it say he has precognition.

"And with the same all seeing eye, he can anticipate all of his opponents attacks"

I'm pretty sure that's what precog does, anticipate opponents attacks.

Get VIZ translation next time.

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[Brady]

"And with the same all seeing eye, he can anticipate all of his opponents attacks"

I'm pretty sure that's what precog does, anticipate opponents attacks.

Get VIZ translation next time.

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If he could actually anticipate attacks, he wouldn't have lost to KN0 Naruto. He failed to see through a form that was beneath what Sasuke was able to see through.

The VIZ translation is the same translation that thinks Sasuke is using "chakra sight" even though we know he says "eyes" in the original Japanese manga, on top of that, it's later explained during Neji's fight with Kidomaru that Neji's 360 degree view is like a shield that merely senses attacks rather than foresee's them. The interpretation of "sense" actually matches his abilities in his fights.

 

[Mori Jin]

If he could actually anticipate attacks, he wouldn't have lost to KN0 Naruto. He failed to see through a form that was beneath what Sasuke was able to see through.

The VIZ translation is the same translation that thinks Sasuke is using "chakra sight" even though we know he says "eyes" in the original Japanese manga, on top of that, it's later explained during Neji's fight with Kidomaru that Neji's 360 degree view is like a shield that merely senses attacks rather than foresee's them. The interpretation of "sense" actually matches his abilities in his fights.

Sasuke could anticipate attacks as well but got his ass beat by Lee. Just because you can see it, don't mean your body can keep up. Plus Neji's Byakugan wasn't active, when Naruto uppercut him. Yet Naruto still landed attacks on Sasuke "anticipating" them in VOTE 1.

It says anticipate and not sense. VIZ translation is still the official translation.

His Byakugan can almost see 360° as it says so in the scan I posted. Tenten then says and (which shows she's now talking about another separate thing), with the same all seeing (almost 360°) eye, he can anticipate all of his opponents attacks. 2 separate things he can do with his Byakugan. Just like (for e.g.) me saying Naruto using the Rasenshuriken, he does this by using his Rasengan, which is done by using shape manipulation and Nature transformation, 2 separate things.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

The precognition was already there, as implied by Orochimaru while fighting Sasuke during the Forest Of Death after realizing that Sasuke could in fact read his movements. Sasuke's speed was already where it needed to be, it was just that his eyes weren't able to keep up with Naruto's speed and his eyes needed an upgrade before being able to properly follow.

KN0 Neji wasn't keeping up just fine. He panicked and quickly used rotation rather than just beating Naruto's ass. If Neji was perfectly capable of reading Naruto's movements, why would he take a risk like using rotation, knowing his rotation wasn't impenetrable.

The influence of the Kyuubi's chakra on Naruto is clearly stronger during the VOTE 1 Fight in comparison to his fight with Neji, showing that in order to follow speed's like Naruto's, one needs the Sharingan. The physical influence is quite clear, but you're just denying it out of your own convenience.

As I said, Sharingan precog was lacking in ability until fully matured as seen by feats. It was clearly present, but it wasn't at its best.

On the other hand, the Byakugan seemingly had the advantage until that point of Sharingan maturity. In case people forgot, Neji was keeping up with Lee's speed while he was using the Gates with his Byakugan while Kakashi was doing the same thing with his Sharingan. I'm not seeing how the Sharingan is supposed to be better when you consider that is all.

And Neji was flustered by Naruto using chakra despite the fact he took a 64 Palms assault. He was fighting against relatively fine.

 

[Brady]

Sasuke could anticipate attacks as well but got his ass beat by Lee. Just because you can see it, don't mean your body can keep up. Plus Neji's Byakugan wasn't active, when Naruto uppercut him. Yet Naruto still landed attacks on Sasuke "anticipating" them in VOTE 1.

It says anticipate and not sense. VIZ translation is still the official translation.

His Byakugan can almost see 360° as it says so in the scan I posted. Tenten then says and (which shows she's now talking about another separate thing), with the same all seeing (almost 360°) eye, he can anticipate all of his opponents attacks. 2 separate things he can do with his Byakugan. Just like (for e.g.) me saying Naruto using the Rasenshuriken, he does this by using his Rasengan, which is done by using shape manipulation and Nature transformation, 2 separate things.

Naruto landed attacks on 2T Sasuke, using a speed that Sasuke couldn't keep up with. KN0 Naruto shouldn't have been faster than Neji and Neji still got destroyed.

Viz translation is entirely fallible, official or not. Neji is clearly shown to sense attacks with 360 degree vision, not anticipate.

Neji cannot anticipate attacks as shown in his fights, he can sense and see, but not literally foresee the attack. He would have never gotten injured when fighting Kidomaru if he were capable of foreseeing attacks.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

That’s pretty much the same vibe I’ve been getting

 

[Mori Jin]

Naruto landed attacks on 2T Sasuke, using a speed that Sasuke couldn't keep up with. KN0 Naruto shouldn't have been faster than Neji and Neji still got destroyed.

Viz translation is entirely fallible, official or not. Neji is clearly shown to sense attacks with 360 degree vision, not anticipate.

Neji cannot anticipate attacks as shown in his fights, he can sense and see, but not literally foresee the attack. He would have never gotten injured when fighting Kidomaru if he were capable of foreseeing attacks.

Neji lost without his Byakugan active. Sasuke was running around fighting with senjutsu chakra, can't compare the 2 when he (Sasuke) would be put to sleep long before the Manga version of their fight. Heck CM1 gets destroyed, he only lasted cause of CM2, but let's not get into that now.

Yet Manga shows seeing 360° and anticipating attacks are not 1 and the same. Plus it says anticipate not sense, I'll take that over what you want it to say anyday.

He anticipates by seeing it, just like everyone with a doujutsu that can anticipate attacks do. Neither would Sasuke against Lee, yet he did. Neither would Sasuke against Naruto in VOTE 1. Seeing =/=Reacting.

 

[Brady]

As I said, Sharingan precog was lacking in ability until fully matured as seen by feats. It was clearly present, but it wasn't at its best.

On the other hand, the Byakugan seemingly had the advantage until that point of Sharingan maturity. In case people forgot, Neji was keeping up with Lee's speed while he was using the Gates with his Byakugan while Kakashi was doing the same thing with his Sharingan. I'm not seeing how the Sharingan is supposed to be better when you consider that is all.

And Neji was flustered by Naruto using chakra despite the fact he took a 64 Palms assault. He was fighting against relatively fine.

The Sharingan's ability merely relies upon the user's experience, and as seen in the manga, Sasuke wasn't one to use it often which would explain his inability to read Naruto's movements and needing the next tomoe to do so. The Byakugan has no precognition and it's never shown that Neji can actually see Lee's movements, more so that he can see Lee's chakra. Lee in his gates mode is far faster than KN0 Naruto and Neji could hardly react soundly to that.

Neji's reactions seemed quite flustered, even Sasuke kept calm when unable to predict or anticipate Naruto's moves, showing that he was still able to see through some things.

 

[Brady]

Neji lost without his Byakugan active. Sasuke was running around fighting with senjutsu chakra, can't compare the 2 when he (Sasuke) would be put to sleep long before the Manga version of their fight. Heck CM1 gets destroyed, he only lasted cause of CM2, but let's not get into that now.

Yet Manga shows seeing 360° and anticipating attacks are not 1 and the same. Plus it says anticipate not sense, I'll take that over what you want it to say anyday.

He anticipates by seeing it, just like everyone with a doujutsu that can anticipate attacks do. Neither would Sasuke against Lee, yet he did. Neither would Sasuke against Naruto in VOTE 1. Seeing =/=Reacting.

Neji immediately resorted to his rotation despite having this so called "precognition". He couldn't see through Naruto and these are merely facts. Sasuke deactivated his Curse Mark when the real fight began at VOTE1, and if Naruto couldn't use his Nine-Tails along with Sasuke not using CM, we're both aware that the Sharingan would make quick work of Naruto.

The Manga shows that Neji can merely sense things, but says otherwise. I'll go with what's shown rather than what's said, because it says Sasuke uses chakra sight to see through attacks despite the fact that Sasuke is never shown to be seeing chakra when anticipating moves. The Japanese manga says "eyes" rather than "chakra sight", showing that Viz is just a joke.

It's never said that all Dojutsu's see through movements or anticipate anything, stop making false equivalences. Sasuke's inability to see through movements was his lack of using the Sharingan for obvious reasons (it's a fight ender). Neji cannot see moves, merely sense.

 

[LeSauce]

Lmao, Byakugan doesn't have precog.

If I see a truck coming at me miles away I can anticipate it. Doesn't mean I can tell where it's going to go before it does it, which the Sharingan does.