...Why do the Right typically hate Intellectualism?

[1000 Chirping Birds]

The US and the UK? have ALWAYS had an issue with intellectualism and academia, this is no recent thing.

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I watched Red Dawn today. A film that is surface level right-wing American propaganda against Russia, and whilst I still liked it...it made me realise that everything from Breitbart to movie tropes to sh*t my dad says...the Right typically discourage the education system and just like Red Dawn...respect self-defending militarial jock types, whilst villainising the nerd stereotype...the intellectuals and the academics. This film was made in the 80s and is still spot-on with today.

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Breitbart have resentment towards Universities and favour home-schooling. I genuinely don't see the link? Why is this?​

Im at University myself and id love to understand why people consider them left-wing. My campus isn't remotely like that and clearly people with right-wing views have just as much opportunity of going to education. Even if academic education IS inherently left-wing...then it's their own fault that they don't jump in and contribute.

Their resentment towards intelligence is a statement onto itself. Clearly not a value far-right thinking wants. Why could that be?
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[Chikombo]

Anti intellectualism? I didn't know that even existed.
OT: I don't know.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Anti intellectualism? I didn't know that even existed.
OT: I don't know.

I've been thinking about this for a while myself, had no clue it had an actual name.

Even if academic education IS inherently left-wing...then it's their own fault that they don't jump in and contribute.

Want to emphasise this point...because there's so much truth in it.

The other week somebody asked me why so many comedians hate Trump and the answer is simple, Right-Wing Americans are less witty. If they want more presence in comedy. They simply have to be funnier.

Exact same situation with intelligence and representation in education. These people have to actually try or compete rather than just cry controversy or unfair treatment all the time.

 

[Chikombo]

I've been thinking about this for a while myself, had no clue it had an actual name.



Want to emphasise this point...because there's so much truth in it.

The other week somebody asked me why so many comedians hate Trump and the answer is simple, Right-Wing Americans are less witty. If they want more presence in comedy. They simply have to be funnier.

Exact same situation with intelligence and representation in education. These people have to actually try or compete rather than just cry controversy or unfair treatment all the time.[/QUOTE]

That says alot, people are not really suffering or trying hard in life but they complain anyway without even knowing what's going on.

It's the same with climate change deniers, they don't like to value the climate more than economy in the here and now, they don't know anything about it.


It's like a movement.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

That says alot, people are not really suffering or trying hard in life but they complain anyway without even knowing what's going on.

It's the same with climate change deniers, they don't like to value the climate more than economy in the here and now, they don't know anything about it.

Great example. Climate change denial is 100% fueled by anti-intellectualism. Of course leaders like Trump don't want you to believe in climate change, it doesn't benefit them

...and so people are told not to deny and not listen to their professors, scientists or 'experts' because something something generic liberal hate. It's tragic herd thinking.

 

[Chikombo]

Maybe people in the right hold on to ideas really strongly even though they are contradicted by information.

 

[kimb]

"Typically" you're generalizing here. You have a minority of the right that deny climate change is a result of human interference, and the You have a minority of the left that denies there are no psychological and in some instances physical differences between men and women, and deny physiological and genetic differences beteeen races. Anti-intellectualism is not a trait of the right or left. Stupid people exist on both sides of the spectrum.

 

[1000 Chirping Birds]

"Typically" you're generalizing here. You have a minority of the right that deny climate change is a result of human interference, and the You have a minority of the left that denies there are no psychological and in some instances physical differences between men and women, and deny physiological and genetic differences beteeen races. Anti-intellectualism is not a trait of the right or left. Stupid people exist on both sides of the spectrum.

Well of course you have to over-generalise to analyse politics. The fact that these stereotypes have been ingrained in films since the 80s show that they're pretty well known tropes and must have truth to them.

I did specify 'far-right' but if it makes things clearer, then let's talk about the alt-right, a group who objectively sh*t over their preconceived idea of college professors as if it's on their manifesto.

I'm not talking about people having extreme opinions but a group openly, and willingly having disregard for unbiased 'experts' advice on political matters and resenting academia...what kind of statement does that make?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

It's like a movement.

It's like a cult.

 

[Chikombo]

I wonder if people in general over the world has become less interested in learning recently.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I wonder if people in general over the world has become less interested in learning recently.

I mean, in my country...numbers are hugely down because our government charge extortionate amounts for tuition fees. Like, i'm screwed.

So clearly- a priority.

 

[Lightbringer]

Because it's easier to manipulate and control stupid people.

The famous political book "1984" by George Orwell does a good job at portraying this in a dystopian setting.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Because it's easier to manipulate and control stupid people.

The famous political book "1984" by George Orwell does a good job at portraying this in a dystopian setting.

I mean, this is the obvious go-to answer but I wanted to be a bit more discrete :') Honestly, not to be disrespectful for the sake of it, but I can see religion playing into this too. Much of this demographic already view science and understanding as the villain, so denying all experts that don't match up with your views is the next natural step.

What amazes me is how transparent that is though, how lacking in self-awareness do you have to be to be taught to hate learning? "Knowledge and experts are bad, i'm going to follow my niche hate website."

 

[Lightbringer]

I mean, this is the obvious go-to answer but I wanted to be a bit more discrete :') Honestly, not to be disrespectful for the sake of it, but I can see religion playing into this too. Much of this demographic already view science and understanding as the villain, so denying all experts that don't match up with your views is the next natural step.

What amazes me is how transparent that is though, how lacking in self-awareness do you have to be to be taught to hate learning? "Knowledge and experts are bad, i'm going to follow my niche hate website."

Like the old saying goes: "Ignorance is bliss."

 

[Lightbringer]

"Typically" you're generalizing here. You have a minority of the right that deny climate change is a result of human interference, and the You have a minority of the left that denies there are no psychological and in some instances physical differences between men and women, and deny physiological and genetic differences beteeen races. Anti-intellectualism is not a trait of the right or left. Stupid people exist on both sides of the spectrum.

85% isn't a minority.

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I think both sides are a bit ridiculous at times. The lefts' inability to win elections that should be land-slides(Including Hillary Clinton). The rights' overall lack of understanding in extremely simple things. It exists equally on both sides I think.

 

[kimb]

Well of course you have to over-generalise to analyse politics. The fact that these stereotypes have been ingrained in films since the 80s show that they're pretty well known tropes and must have truth to them.

I did specify 'far-right' but if it makes things clearer, then let's talk about the alt-right, a group who objectively sh*t over their preconceived idea of college professors as if it's on their manifesto.

I'm not talking about people having extreme opinions but a group openly, and willingly having disregard for unbiased 'experts' advice on political matters and resenting academia...what kind of statement does that make?

I don't think films made by liberal Hollywood is a good basis for representation of the politically right, or at least good enough to base any opinion on. Although, I don't deny these tropes of anti-intellectualism don't exist, I simply question the source of the tropes.

I do want to acknowledge though that traditional conservatives w/ power or influence over environmental and energy regulation like members of GOP or former (GOP) candidate Rick Santorum are notorious for citing the Bible in order to refute claims of climate change. There's also the aspect of financial gain in denying climate change for many republican representatives, as they have a hand in or are financially invested in the coal and oil industry. So policies that attempt to implement things like carbon taxes, or a push for renewable energy stands in the way of their financial gains.

And I do think academia is in a current state to have their authority questioned. The science consensus on the carbon clock/doomsday clock (the countdown for when the earths atmosphere reaches the point of irreversible damage that cannot be solved eventually leading to the end of times) has shifted several times within the past 10 years, with every passing of the clock hitting zero being updated with a new date of when the carbon lock will hit zero. It seems like we're always "so close to being out of time before it's too late", but we somehow always have enough time to impose a carbon tax.

Then there are the social sciences in academia, which for the last 20 (arguably 30 years) has been a nesting ground for post modernistic, neo-Marxist ideologues that have been churning out research that denies unobjectionable biological and psychological facts in order to push their agenda in the name of social justice. I'm currently studying an uni and have encountered several proffessors who have attempted to enforce notions of the "human blank slate" as unobjectionable fact, or have attempted to push feminist theories of unconscious male sexism and various other opinions on gender during lectures and what not. I don't want to go too far off base, but my point is academia is an authority that can be challenged, (I believe so long as you come with arguments or proper counter evidence.).

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[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I don't think films made by liberal Hollywood is a good basis for representation of the politically right, or at least good enough to base any opinion on. Although, I don't deny these tropes of anti-intellectualism don't exist, I simply question the source of the tropes.

Checked out here. Red Dawn is a famous extreme right-wing film... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant accusations like 'liberal Hollywood' hahaha

 

[kimb]

Checked out here. Red Dawn is a famous extreme right-wing film... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant accusations like 'liberal Hollywood' hahaha

"Checked out here. Jeremy Lin is a famous tall Asian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'asians are shorter than average' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ronda Rousey is a famous strong woman... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'women are weaker than men' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Mercury is a liquid at room temperature... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'metal is solid at room temperature' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Wyclef Jean is a famous wealthy haitian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'haiti is a third world country' hahaha"

"Checked out here. John McCain advocates for large government military spending... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'republicans are conservative' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ultranationalist Buddhist monks in Berma are violent... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'buddhist advocate for peace' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Isaiah Thomas is only 5'9''... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'NBA players are tall' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Platypuses lay eggs... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'mammals have live births' hahaha"

"Checked out here. I've seen a deer eat a bird... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'deer are herbivores' hahaha"


"Dis wun moov-E I saw wuz write wing, so hollywuud aint libureal, dur hur! plz no wut ur tolkn abut b4 u mak accuzashuns, DUR HUR!!"

"Exceptions to the rule, do not disprove the rule". For some reason, I feel like you were serious with your reply, and that's what scares me the most. "Everyday, man strays farther and farther away from God's light"

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[Lightbringer]

"Checked out here. Jeremy Lin is a famous tall Asian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'asians are shorter than average' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ronda Rousey is a famous strong woman... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'women are weaker than men' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Mercury is a liquid at room temperature... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'metal is solid at room temperature' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Wyclef Jean is a famous wealthy haitian... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'haiti is a third world country' hahaha"

"Checked out here. John McCain advocates for large government military spending... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'republicans are conservative' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Ultranationalist Buddhist monks in Berma are violent... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'buddhist advocate for peace' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Isaiah Thomas is only 5'9''... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'NBA players are tall' hahaha"

"Checked out here. Platypuses lay eggs... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'mammals have live births' hahaha"

"Checked out here. I've seen a deer eat a bird... Please know what you're talking about before you throw around huge, ignorant claims like 'deer are herbivores' hahaha"


"Dis wun moov-E I saw wuz write wing, so hollywuud aint libureal, dur hur! plz no wut ur tolkn abut b4 u mak accuzashuns, DUR HUR!!"

"Exceptions to the rule, do not disprove the rule". For some reason, I feel like you were serious with your reply, and that's what scares me the most. "Everyday, man strays farther and farther away from God's light"

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Oh so you don't use false-equivalencies when trying to label something as being primarily liberal, but you have no problem doing so when it fits your own narrative, like Climate Change denial between right and left?

What a hypocrite.