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But Madara did absorb it :| the sand only acts as a defense by its self all attacks are chakra infused. Not to mention kisame can create a whole lake if he wanted to which would made all gaara sand he could potentially make gone. Once his sand get wet he has nothing



Kisame was trying to escape not fight. He didn't have his shark sword and was not at full strength.
His Shark sword wouldn't have made much difference there.
 

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His Shark sword wouldn't have made much difference there.
yes it would the sword absorbs chakra much fast than he does than he can through his skin. And if if he fused in would increase his strenght. If he decided to uses his water dome 7th Gate would not be able to defend against all that. He basically has limitless stamina and chakra and regeneration. 8th gate my have a chance to win . But then it would be a draw At best.
 

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yes it would the sword absorbs chakra much fast than he does than he can through his skin. And if if he fused in would increase his strenght. If he decided to uses his water dome 7th Gate would not be able to defend against all that. He basically has limitless stamina and chakra and regeneration. 8th gate my have a chance to win . But then it would be a draw At best.
Surely you don't believe he wouldn't have if he really thought that it could make a difference instead of getting captured and eventually dying. As for Samehada, Gai was using mostly ranged taijutsu attacks so Samehada to would be useful plus Kisame doesn't have 7th gate Gai speed so he can't reach Gai to absorb his chakra. He was gonna take the L with or without the Samehada.
 

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Surely you don't believe he wouldn't have if he really thought that it could make a difference instead of getting captured and eventually dying. As for Samehada, Gai was using mostly ranged taijutsu attacks so Samehada to would be useful plus Kisame doesn't have 7th gate Gai speed so he can't reach Gai to absorb his chakra. He was gonna take the L with or without the Samehada.
But kisame can use his water dome and guy wouldn't be able to do anything and kisame would be faster under water and guy would be slower and run out of air. If he has no air his attacks won't be as powerful. Not to mention when fused he has sensing ability that could help counter his speed as well
 

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But kisame can use his water dome and guy wouldn't be able to do anything and kisame would be faster under water and guy would be slower and run out of air. If he has no air his attacks won't be as powerful. Not to mention when fused he has sensing ability that could help counter his speed as well
I think Kisame's clone used it against Gai during rescue Gaara arc and Gai did just fine. Kisame was aware of this he still didn't use it. He'd have if he really believed that it would work.
 

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I think Kisame's clone used it against Gai during rescue Gaara arc and Gai did just fine. Kisame was aware of this he still didn't use it. He'd have if he really believed that it would work.
That's was about 40% of his strenght I believe and he didn't use water dome or absorb his chakra. guy had to go 6 gates and he was fighting the whole team at first.
 

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That's was about 40% of his strenght I believe and he didn't use water dome or absorb his chakra. guy had to go 6 gates and he was fighting the whole team at first.
40% of his strength doesn't change the fact that Gai fought him well enough under water while opening only upto 6th gate.

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So he wasn't going all out either and Kisame was finding it hard to match 6 gates Gai's speed. There's no way he'd be able to keep up with 7 gates.
 

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40% of his strength doesn't change the fact that Gai fought him well enough under water while opening only upto 6th gate.

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So he wasn't going all out either and Kisame was finding it hard to match 6 gates Gai's speed. There's no way he'd be able to keep up with 7 gates.
They barley fought underwater. It wasnt even the real kisame yet guy had to go 6 gates. His water dome is a completly different thing as well and he wasnt absobing his chakra like he did with bee.
 

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They barley fought underwater. It wasnt even the real kisame yet guy had to go 6 gates. His water dome is a completly different thing as well and he wasnt absobing his chakra like he did with bee.
Doesn't matter. It was a clone with 40% chakra but he could use all of Kisame's abilities as good as Kisame himself could so your argument simply isn't valid. And sure Gai didn't fought underwater but instead pushed Kisame outside of his water dome to Gai's advantage. He'd the same to the original too and the original Kisame sure knew that considering he remembered all of Gai's attacks.
 

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Doesn't matter. It was a clone with 40% chakra but he could use all of Kisame's abilities as good as Kisame himself could so your argument simply isn't valid. And sure Gai didn't fought underwater but instead pushed Kisame outside of his water dome to Gai's advantage. He'd the same to the original too and the original Kisame sure knew that considering he remembered all of Gai's attacks.
Kisame never used water dome against guy :| and he can't do his attacks on the same level as the real kisame. Unless you think Kakashi and naruto can take itachi as well which is ridiculous. The fact is in 7th Gate he would be able to counter water dome and would not be able to fight effectively. Every bold he lands he lose chakra while kisame gains and heals. Guy will run out of air as well
 

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Kisame never used water dome against guy :| and he can't do his attacks on the same level as the real kisame. Unless you think Kakashi and naruto can take itachi as well which is ridiculous. The fact is in 7th Gate he would be able to counter water dome and would not be able to fight effectively. Every bold he lands he lose chakra while kisame gains and heals. Guy will run out of air as well
His abilities were the same as original Kisame. Only the clone had 40% of Kisame's chakra which I'd say should be large enough considering Kisame's chakra levels were compared to a bijuu. What makes you think 7 Gates won't be able to handle Kisame's water dome when 6 Gates Gai blew away the water around him and forced Kisame clone out into the open to Gai's advantage. And gates Gai doesn't even need to land attacks directly, most of his attacks are ranged attacks and if he lands a direct hit at his strongest then Kisame would be dead before he's able to absorb any chakra.
 

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Filler isn't canon therefore is it actually real in the Naruto world? Nah.

Kisame was called the tailless-tailed beast though, aka the Zero Tails.

OT: Not many people can actually beat Kisame excluding the obvious Demigod & God tiers.

Those who can beat Kisame:

Gaara
Itachi
DSM Kabuto w/ & w/o Edo Tensei
Orochimaru w Edo Tensei
7th Gate Gai & above
Nagato & Pain
4th Raikage
Killer B

About it. I may be missing a few though. Kisame is a top 20 character, definitely an OP dude.
Madara, Sasuke, Obito and a few others.

7 gates guy isn't beating Samehada fused kisame. 8 gates will however.
 

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His abilities were the same as original Kisame. Only the clone had 40% of Kisame's chakra which I'd say should be large enough considering Kisame's chakra levels were compared to a bijuu. What makes you think 7 Gates won't be able to handle Kisame's water dome when 6 Gates Gai blew away the water around him and forced Kisame clone out into the open to Gai's advantage. And gates Gai doesn't even need to land attacks directly, most of his attacks are ranged attacks and if he lands a direct hit at his strongest then Kisame would be dead before he's able to absorb any chakra.
His abilities are the same but not at the same level. Blowing away water is not the same as blowing away water held together by chakra. Underwater guy will not be as fast or as strong. A Weakened kisame was able to tank guys strongest attack hirudora in 7th Gate already while the clone kisame could not even tank a 6th gate attack. Theres a big difference. Fussed with his sword he faster and stronger under water as well.
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