"Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

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Is this true?

Use this scenario for a fair comparison. Two normal shinobi born into the world.

One was born with the EMS, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.

One was born with the Byakugan, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.


Who would become stronger and why?


Most agree the EMS shinobi is much stronger. Much much stronger.
 
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Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
 

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Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
There's never been a Byakugan or Sharingan user on par with each other. One is always several tiers above the other.
Not what I asked.
 

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Course not. To our knowledge the Byakugan can at the very best be argued to surpass three tomoe Sharingan by itself, but in no way in hell is it stronger than an EMS.
 

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My personal beleif is 1 defeats jutsu the other defeats chakra. They're actually pretty balanced if developed to their peaks.

I also think kishi should've made a rivalry between Hyuga/Uchiha and the senju as the peace makers.

Anyway EMS negs
 

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The byakugan loses to a PS pretty handily. Hell it loses to a regular Susano'o. It might even lose without a Susano'o involved depending on the user's MS abilities.
 

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Byakugan isn't even comparable to 3 tomoe let alone MS/EMS.

Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential
Stop with the fic.
 

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Your question can't be answered because there have never been equal Sharingan and Byakugan users. Kaguya, Hamura, and Toneri are above most Sharingan users, while most Sharingan users are above most Hyugas.
Its clearly being answered at the moment. You and your over techinicalities dont mean shit tbh.
 

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That was the point of my first post.



Give me a Sharingan and Byakugan user that are equal then. Because none exist.
One is born with EMS and one is born with Byakugan who becomes stronger. Shouldn't be a hard question to answer. Everyone else is doing fine. Whats your gripe?
 

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Nope, it is obviously not. But the Byakugan/Gentle Fist had a lot of potential to be a very powerful Doujtsu that could even rival the EMS but it simply lacked the development it needed.

I am sure Hamura had a lot of OP Gentle Fist techniques that made him capable of fighting Kaguya herself and probably on par with Rinnegan Hagoromo.
 
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