Orochimaru vs Kakuzu

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Kakuzu wins. Oro is overrated trash. He acts invincible and shit but its just a facade. All bark no bite. Kakuzu will rip this *** apart.
 

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Yamato no Orochi is a big ass target, and wouldn't be smart of Orochimaru to use against Kakuzu. A multiple elemental assault more than likely be the end of it. And from my recollection, the things has no actually feats.

Other than that... I mean I never understood what Orochimaru exactly had that threatened Kakuzu outside of summons. All of his snake-based ninjutsu get charred through Zukkoku. If they were to clash in CQC, Kakuzu's V2 version (with the tentacles protruding, and being able to extend extremely far) would suffice to keep Orochimaru at bay.

Honestly, I'm confused on how Orochimaru beats Kakuzu.

Yamata>Manda and Manda is durable enough to protect Sasuke from C0 and it's literally Oro transformed. I doubt that Kakuzu's elemental Ninjutsu are going to do anything serious to him in this form let alone kill him. It has no feats, but it's a giant snake with 9 heads and it's stronger than Manda and it's just Oro in a transformed state. That's pretty much all we need to know.

Orochimaru w/ Kusanagi takes Kakuzu in V2 with ease. His sword easily slices through Kakuzu's tentacles. If Kakuzu releases his masks like he normally does, Kusanagi or Hydra easily take them out. None of Kakuzu's attacks are going to do lasting damage due to Oral Rebirth and he has Rashomon if he's ever put in a spot where it'd be more beneficial to block than tank.

Oro can easily survive his attacks, can easily take out the masks individually, so the only issue in this fight is actually killing him since he has Domu. Either he poisons him or he does what he did to Spiral Zetsu and places a Curse Mark on him to temporarily paralyze him and then finishes him off.
 

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Kakuzu wins mid-high difficulty, regardless of whether this is Zetsu Orochimaru or not. It's not like consuming Zetsu made him top tier, all it did was give him basic Mokuton, which wouldn't trouble Kakuzu to begin with. Kakuzu fought Hashirama and survived, so I don't see fodder Mokuton from Zetsu would accomplish anything. I can't even begin to picture Orochimaru winning.

-Poisons don't have an effect on Kakuzu.

-Kusanagi can't damage Domu.

-Snakes are taken out by masks.
 

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Kakuzu wins mid-high difficulty, regardless of whether this is Zetsu Orochimaru or not. It's not like consuming Zetsu made him top tier, all it did was give him basic Mokuton, which wouldn't trouble Kakuzu to begin with. Kakuzu fought Hashirama and survived, so I don't see fodder Mokuton from Zetsu would accomplish anything. I can't even begin to picture Orochimaru winning.

-Poisons don't have an effect on Kakuzu.

-Kusanagi can't damage Domu.

-Snakes are taken out by masks.
Nope.
Not just Mokuton.
Zetsu also gives him:
- A new regeneration power source ( Hashi's cells )
- Tons of Chakra
- Cloning ( and his other techniques)
- Sage mode?
Let's not forget that Sasuke is immune to Poisons, yet he was affected by oro's true form poison.
He can use the curse mark.
Also, what can Kakuzu really do against oro???
Especially with the fact that he can summon Manda V2, can transform into his Yamata no orochi form, can use the rashomons, etc...
 

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It's a very good fight. Can go either way.
 

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Damn..I'm surprised these two monsters weren't matched up sooner...?Orochimaru might win,but i definitely wouldn't count kakazu out. He's shown enough to convince me that this would be a very good fight.
 
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Nope.
Not just Mokuton.
Zetsu also gives him:
- A new regeneration power source ( Hashi's cells )
- Tons of Chakra
- Cloning ( and his other techniques)
- Sage mode?
Let's not forget that Sasuke is immune to Poisons, yet he was affected by oro's true form poison.
He can use the curse mark.
Also, what can Kakuzu really do against oro???
Especially with the fact that he can summon Manda V2, can transform into his Yamata no orochi form, can use the rashomons, etc...

-None of Zetsu's fodder powers make Orochimaru victorious.

-Sasuke was affected because he inhaled it, he has a human anatomy. Kakuzu doesn't have respiratory system, so poisons don't work on him.

-Manda, Hydra get taken out by the masks.
 

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-None of Zetsu's fodder powers make Orochimaru victorious.

-Sasuke was affected because he inhaled it, he has a human anatomy. Kakuzu doesn't have respiratory system, so poisons don't work on him.

-Manda, Hydra get taken out by the masks.

You're saying that as if Kakuzu will win the fight quite easily, you're trolling if you think so.
- Doesn't make sense, He's FULLY immune to any kind of poison ( most of them I would say ), Kakashi said even If Sakura stabbed him with her poisonous Kunai, it wouldn't even affect him, oro's true form poison is special.
Either way Kakuzu doesn't have anything to stop the soul transfer jutsu.
Btw.....I hope you're kidding about the masks part, Manda can shed his skin, Yamata no orochi is just a form of oro, which means oro can perform techniques while he's in this form, oro can block any attack using the rashomns, Kusunagi blade ends him tbh....
I mean the databook stats proves that oro is superior to Kakuzu in a lot of things.
 
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I seriously don't see Orochimaru threatening Kakuzu's life besides manda, seriously. But, it's the same way around. Oro has oral rebirth and rashomon gates to defend from Kakuzu. It comes down to stamina, which i believe Orochimaru has a wide gap above Kakuzu.
 

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I seriously don't see Orochimaru threatening Kakuzu's life besides manda, seriously. But, it's the same way around. Oro has oral rebirth and rashomon gates to defend from Kakuzu. It comes down to stamina, which i believe Orochimaru has a wide gap above Kakuzu.

Kakuzu has 5 hearts and you question his stamina? lol.
 

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Kakuzu has 5 hearts and you question his stamina? lol.

Oh right because hearts=chakra/stamina. Lol orochimaru with a zetsu body obviously outlasts the dude that needs to keep using his huge ass jutsus to make this a real fight.
 

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Oh right because hearts=chakra/stamina. Lol orochimaru with a zetsu body obviously outlasts the dude that needs to keep using his huge ass jutsus to make this a real fight.

Wouldn't they? If acquiring a new body increases stamina, why the hell wouldn't arguing more hearts?
 

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Kakuzu wins mid-high difficulty, regardless of whether this is Zetsu Orochimaru or not. It's not like consuming Zetsu made him top tier, all it did was give him basic Mokuton, which wouldn't trouble Kakuzu to begin with. Kakuzu fought Hashirama and survived, so I don't see fodder Mokuton from Zetsu would accomplish anything. I can't even begin to picture Orochimaru winning.

-Poisons don't have an effect on Kakuzu.

-Kusanagi can't damage Domu.

-Snakes are taken out by masks.

Lmfao umm mayflay which lets him merge instantly with any earth like surface (one of best transformation tech's only second to kamui)
 

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Wouldn't they? If acquiring a new body increases stamina, why the hell wouldn't arguing more hearts?

As far as I'm aware of hearts are not specifically connected to chakra however dna like hashi's have been showed to completely morph chakra natures (as shown with obito, yamato and orochimaru. Most notably zetsu) hashirams cells have even given zetsu the ability morph into other ninja and copy their chakra nature/appearance
 

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As far as I'm aware of hearts are not specifically connected to chakra however dna like hashi's have been showed to completely morph chakra natures (as shown with obito, yamato and orochimaru. Most notably zetsu) hashirams cells have even given zetsu the ability morph into other ninja and copy their chakra nature/appearance

That's the funny thing though. Hearts of others would possess the originals DNA, and the incorporation of other DNA in all cases (Kabuto, Hashirama cells etc.) have all been shown to increase chakra levels. So Kakuzu's extra hearts should theoretically have granted him extra chakra.

And I've no idea why the two clowns Red Slayer, and Blazekev disliked my genuine question.
 

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That's the funny thing though. Hearts of others would possess the originals DNA, and the incorporation of other DNA in all cases (Kabuto, Hashirama cells etc.) have all been shown to increase chakra levels. So Kakuzu's extra hearts should theoretically have granted him extra chakra.

And I've no idea why the two clowns Red Slayer, and Blazekev disliked my genuine question.

No I feel you I've always thought restricted oro (ET) and Kakazu was always a good match up

If you think about it the akatsuki's bodies are the most interesting thing about Naruto I mean oro body is weird af then Kakazu threads for body. Then hidan religion. Idk how to even expla8n deidara hands. Kishimoto originally had them to be monsters/creatures i wonder what would have became of the akatsuki then. Also why does kisame lo9k like fish
 

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No I feel you I've always thought restricted oro (ET) and Kakazu was always a good match up

If you think about it the akatsuki's bodies are the most interesting thing about Naruto I mean oro body is weird af then Kakazu threads for body. Then hidan religion. Idk how to even expla8n deidara hands. Kishimoto originally had them to be monsters/creatures i wonder what would have became of the akatsuki then. Also why does kisame lo9k like fish

Akatsuki is based on Illuminati. A secret organization composed of freaks with magic who plan to rule the world. We see that in Naruto. Most of the members have secret kinjutsus and forbidden jutsus. Its like a cult.
 

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Healthy Orochimaru mid diffs (whithout Manda). Zetsu Orochimaru low diffs.
 

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Wouldn't they? If acquiring a new body increases stamina, why the hell wouldn't arguing more hearts?
If memory serves right, wasn't it stated that the heart is the chakra generator or something?
 
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