That's completely wrong. Guruguru had nothing to do with the wood style. That's just some fanfic, there is no meduim. I don't know where you got that information from but vlear spiral zetsu was not mentioned. Even in the manga
On topic: He used it on Bm naruto and his longer hair 20 year old version he kept it as a sword.
Says this yet Obito's body wasn't even strong enough yet to fight. Guruguru used the same thing on Karin then was shown using Yamato as his medium to boost his power. But nah he didn't have help.
Says this yet Obito's body wasn't even strong enough yet to fight. Guruguru used the same thing on Karin then was shown using Yamato as his medium to boost his power. But nah he didn't have help.
Cut the sarcasm decimo. :| He said his body wasn't strong enough to break boulders not use ninjutsus. Because guruguru did tell Obito to use his new found powers in the first place?
You of all people should not be arguing since you have the very same issue when it comes to all rinnegan users and six path of pain jutsus. So you sound really hypocritical right now.
You can argue and claim that the databook and manga is wrong when it comes to wood style but when it comes to using rinnegan deva path and all those other realms, you're the front runner posting as much databook page and manga pages as you can calling everybody who doesn't believe it stupid? You really want to be that guy?
Cut the sarcasm decimo. :| He said his body wasn't strong enough to break boulders not use ninjutsus. Because guruguru did tell Obito to use his new found powers in the first place?
You of all people should not be arguing since you have the very same issue when it comes to all rinnegan users and six path of pain jutsus. So you sound really hypocritical right now.
You can argue and claim that the databook and manga is wrong when it comes to wood style but when it comes to using rinnegan deva path and all those other realms, you're the front runner posting as much databook page and manga pages as you can calling everybody who doesn't believe it stupid? You really want to be that guy?
Obito's body wasn't even fully completed yet and Guruguru broke the boulder from using the Mazo's power. Guruguru was also telling Obito he couldn't fight due to him having lower fighting power than him.
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Guruguru using the same ability Obito used with him as a medium just like SZ used with an unconscious Yamato as his.
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Now if he was shown using it on his lonesome that's a different story.
Except it's DB and manga facts that Rinnegan = all six paths no one and nothing says otherwise.
Obito can use it, but it won't be as strong as when he was attached to Spiral Zetsu no matter how hard his fanboys argue so. Same goes for his Mokuton in general.
Obito's body wasn't even fully completed yet and Guruguru broke the boulder from using the Mazo's power. Guruguru was also telling Obito he couldn't fight due to him having lower fighting power than him.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself. Sz said that his body did not full heal and that he can't break boulders yet, so he suggested that he where's his body so he can pull strength from the Gedo mazou to the boulder.
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All Zetsu did is protect his body from his injuries as the manga stated.
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So when Obito refused help, SZ specifically stated that he can use his new found powers to fight in the battle against the enemies.
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He said Hashirama's tissue is attached to Obito NOT him. And he said Obito can use this power NOT SZ. Which is specifically left out just for your stupid theory.
Now as for the manga fact. SZ said Obito did all the techniques
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And even the databook specifically mentioned that Obito and ten tails where the only users capable of doing it. No SZ enhanced nothing.
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On top of that we see him use wood style again. This time without the SZ zetsu excuse.
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And yet you still sit here and deny everything. Both manga facts and Db facts and you still stick to your theory. Not once did the manga say SZ enhanced his wood style abilities at all and you think you have a case here?
Guruguru using the same ability Obito used with him as a medium just like SZ used with an unconscious Yamato as his.
No it's not the same ability and the fact that Yamato is inside further proves my point. Read his DB entry for crying out loud. SZ can only absorb people's life energy to increase his own power same thing applies to Black zetsu and White zetsu. He does not have the power to enhance people that he is absorbing from. That's like saying when the zetsus were being enhanced in the war, they were enhancing Yamato too. Which is a stupid thing to say or imply.
Now if he was shown using it on his l9lonesome that's a different story.
Except it's DB and manga facts that Rinnegan = all six paths no one and nothing says otherwise.
Obito can use it, but it won't be as strong as when he was attached to Spiral Zetsu no matter how hard his fanboys argue so. Same goes for his Mokuton in general.
So i always see people claim kid obito to be very high tier, mainly because of a.) kamui, and b.) the mokuton he showed against the mist nin when he freaked out over rins death. These are legit reasons, except for one thing, can teen obito use mokuton like that normally? Or was he just able to do that under those conditions? Does he ever use wood style again at all? Iirc he does once as an adult? Thoughts?
2. He does use it as an adult. (Go back to a chapter or two just before the juubi was revived in the war, or it might have been around that chapter itself. Obito used mokuton to grab Kakashi's arm. He also used mokuton to connect to the juubi and he also channeled it through the juubi to shoot a bunch of mokuton spikes (the ones that killed Neji) ).
If you ask why he hasn't used it to wreck people as an adult like he did with those mist ninjas, the answer is..... Nerf!
Why didn't Rikudou Madara use limbo against Guy (Obito, who had Madara's rinnegan eye at the time, was in Kamui's dimension at the time, so Madara no longer had to worry about Obito seeing the shadow)? Why didn't he use mokuton (Hashirama's or the shinju's mokuton)? Why didn't he make the truth seeking balls explode like Obito did? Etc...
This same kind of nerf applies to Obito and the mokuton.
2. He does use it as an adult. (Go back to a chapter or two just before the juubi was revived in the war, or it might have been around that chapter itself. Obito used mokuton to grab Kakashi's arm. He also used mokuton to connect to the juubi and he also channeled it through the juubi to shoot a bunch of mokuton spikes (the ones that killed Neji) ).
If you ask why he hasn't used it to wreck people as an adult like he did with those mist ninjas, the answer is..... Nerf!
Why didn't Rikudou Madara use limbo against Guy (Obito, who had Madara's rinnegan eye at the time, was in Kamui's dimension at the time, so Madara no longer had to worry about Obito seeing the shadow)? Why didn't he use mokuton (Hashirama's or the shinju's mokuton)? Why didn't he make the truth seeking balls explode like Obito did? Etc...
This same kind of nerf applies to Obito and the mokuton.
Maybe, except like I said, the mokuton he exhibits later isn't on the same level, nor would I consider the lil wood tube connecting to the juubi on that level either. At the end of the day he's only been seen using that kind of level of mokuton while attached to spiral
I shouldn't have to repeat myself. Sz said that his body did not full heal and that he can't break boulders yet, so he suggested that he where's his body so he can pull strength from the Gedo mazou to the boulder.
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All Zetsu did is protect his body from his injuries as the manga stated.
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So when Obito refused help, SZ specifically stated that he can use his new found powers to fight in the battle against the enemies.
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He said Hashirama's tissue is attached to Obito NOT him. And he said Obito can use this power NOT SZ. Which is specifically left out just for your stupid theory.
Now as for the manga fact. SZ said Obito did all the techniques
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And even the databook specifically mentioned that Obito and ten tails where the only users capable of doing it. No SZ enhanced nothing.
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On top of that we see him use wood style again. This time without the SZ zetsu excuse.
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And yet you still sit here and deny everything. Both manga facts and Db facts and you still stick to your theory. Not once did the manga say SZ enhanced his wood style abilities at all and you think you have a case here?
No it's not the same ability and the fact that Yamato is inside further proves my point. Read his DB entry for crying out loud. SZ can only absorb people's life energy to increase his own power same thing applies to Black zetsu and White zetsu. He does not have the power to enhance people that he is absorbing from. That's like saying when the zetsus were being enhanced in the war, they were enhancing Yamato too. Which is a stupid thing to say or imply.
1.First part is wrong
2. Except DB and manga facts Obito =Wood style on his own and nothing you says otherwise.
Except all of that is wrong literally the scan you posted said his fighting ability is too low for him to fight and said his body isn't strong enough. Heck even Obito said he wasn't fully use to his body yet.
Didn't no one say he couldn't use Mokuton i said he was using SZ as a medium which he was you say he didn't yet the manga shows otherwise then the manga have SZ using that same exact ability on Karin with Yamato as a medium. It's fact that he used Guruguru to help him.
Except all of that is wrong literally the scan you posted said his fighting ability is too low for him to fight and said his body isn't strong enough. Heck even Obito said he wasn't fully use to his body yet.
No he didn't. What does physique have to do with casting a ninjutsu? The fact that you said everything in the manga is wrong just means that you're hopeless. If Oda is wrong about his own manga, why should you be right?
It is literally written there in black ink word for word. And you're saying it's wrong? How does that make any sense? You do realize too that there is no lower level.
Let me paint the picture here for you. In order for him to produce wood style without the "aid" of SZ you're saying that his level will be smaller. You do realize that there is not a wood style level smaller than a sprig, A sprig is just a stick. How do you get smaller than a stick?
On top of that, Danzo who did not only have no control over his implanted tissue but also a weaker wood style release user produced a massive tree. Are you telling me that Obito who has better wood style than Danzo, cannot produce a wood style like Danzo with SZ? And you do realize that wood style sprigs is smaller than what Danzo did right?
Even the wood style tether that Obito rapped around Bm naruto's body is smaller than the wood style sprigs jutsu too? Do you realize this are you and InfinteMugen just decided to not follow the manga? I honestly didn't believe guys would go retarded like kidgamer does when it comes to anything tobi or obito related. I figure you guys are better than that but you literally said the three pages I just posted is wrong. Think about that.
Didn't no one say he couldn't use Mokuton i said he was using SZ as a medium which he was you say he didn't yet the manga shows otherwise then the manga have SZ using that same exact ability on Karin with Yamato as a medium. It's fact that he used Guruguru to help him.
I literally said it 5 times already that SZ was not used as a medium and yet you ignore me constantly. Are you actually reading this or you're just skimming?
You need to realize that a parasite does aid it consumes. The techniques he's using is completely different. SZ cannot produce wood style so he has to absorb from yamato to use it. If all SZ can do is absorb people's power to use wood style, then how can he amplify? SZ does not have the power to amplify, especially when he can only stay alive by consuming people's life energy.
On top of that the manga doesn't even say he has the power to amplify people on top of that nor did it said he ever aided anybody too. His databook entry says his power is to absorb people's light to survive and when he's not absorbing people's light, he takes it from the Gedo mazou.
You're literally basing your assumption on the fact on Obito wearing SZ to protect his damaged arm as a reason why he's using SZ as a medium or amplification for wood style. You do realize that it's a speculation, right? Like literally Senseisama talk right now.
If the manga said that Obito used SZ for wood style, then I would not be arguing with you right now because you would be right. But it didn't. So I honestly don't understand where you're heads at right now because you're not making any sense right now.
This isn't a favorite thing or anything like that (because mokuton means nothing to yin yang release), but you're giving feats to a character that he does not have.
