Teen obito

[InfiniteMugen]

So i always see people claim kid obito to be very high tier, mainly because of a.) kamui, and b.) the mokuton he showed against the mist nin when he freaked out over rins death. These are legit reasons, except for one thing, can teen obito use mokuton like that normally? Or was he just able to do that under those conditions? Does he ever use wood style again at all? Iirc he does once as an adult? Thoughts?

 

[Styles]

I think it was due to Guruguru because Obito wasn't strong enough at that time. He most likely used him as a medium like spiral zetsu did with Yamato.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I think it was due to Guruguru because Obito wasn't strong enough at that time. He most likely used him as a medium like spiral zetsu did with Yamato.

That's along the lines of what I was thinking, I just see a lot of "if teen obito used his mokuton" this and that, and I always saw it as an "in that situation" kinda thing that he was able to do it on that scale

 

[Ansatsuken]

One time show

 

[DiamondxDust]

Obito used guruguru as a suit, and this gave him access to guruguru's mokuton temporarily.

 

[123fire]

Regardless Obito is OP

 

[InfiniteMugen]

One time show

That's what I was thinking

Obito used guruguru as a suit, and this gave him access to guruguru's mokuton temporarily.

Makes sense, I, along with many others apparently, tend to overlook that

Regardless Obito is OP

Yes, yes he is, but that wasn't really my point

 

[DiamondxDust]

That's what I was thinking


Makes sense, I, along with many others apparently, tend to overlook that

Yes, yes he is, but that wasn't really my point

I wasn't completely sure of the answer either. I had to research a little and came to that conclusion.

 

[whiteboy2345]

So i always see people claim kid obito to be very high tier, mainly because of a.) kamui, and b.) the mokuton he showed against the mist nin when he freaked out over rins death. These are legit reasons, except for one thing, can teen obito use mokuton like that normally? Or was he just able to do that under those conditions? Does he ever use wood style again at all? Iirc he does once as an adult? Thoughts?

Guruguru claims that Obito is special for being able to perform the cutting springs jutsu, so he wasn't using "swirly" as a medium for the technique, he merely used Guruguru to protect his currently weaker body as he performed the feats.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I think it was due to Guruguru because Obito wasn't strong enough at that time. He most likely used him as a medium like spiral zetsu did with Yamato.

That's along the lines of what I was thinking, I just see a lot of "if teen obito used his mokuton" this and that, and I always saw it as an "in that situation" kinda thing that he was able to do it on that scale

That's completely wrong. Guruguru had nothing to do with the wood style. That's just some fanfic, there is no meduim. I don't know where you got that information from but vlear spiral zetsu was not mentioned. Even in the manga

On topic: He used it on Bm naruto and his longer hair 20 year old version he kept it as a sword.

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[InfiniteMugen]

That's completely wrong. Guruguru had nothing to do with the wood style. That's just some fanfic, there is no meduim. I don't know where you got that information from but vlear spiral zetsu was not mentioned. Even in the manga

On topic: He used it on Bm naruto and his longer hair 20 year old version he kept it as a sword.

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I'm not disputing whether he can use mokuton, but whether he can do something like that on his own again mainly as a teen, but as an adult to. When did he use it against bm Naruto? Considering we've never seen him do it without spiral attached iirc, even that databook scan has him covered in spiral for every single picture of him on the jutsu page

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm not disputing whether he can use mokuton, but whether he can do something like that on his own again mainly as a teen, but as an adult to. When did he use it against bm Naruto? Considering we've never seen him do it without spiral attached iirc, even that databook scan has him covered in spiral for every single picture of him on the jutsu page

Bro you didn't read my post at all. I just said gurugur had nothing to do with it. Did you read who the users are?

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Not only is spiral zetsu not listed as a user but in the databook they made no mentions of spiral zetsu being utilize. He was just an armour to protect his damaged arm.
If Obito used spiral zetsu to use the mokuton, spiral zetsu would be listed as a user like he is for shinsusenjuu in the databook.

Just because he's covered in spiral zetsu, doesn't mean spiral zetsu did anything. The fact that spiral zetsu aided in anything is just a speculation. It's like saying Obito can't use fire style without the rinnegan. Where did you get that spiral zetsu was a medium btw?

As for him being an adult. He did it one more time here.

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[InfiniteMugen]

Bro you didn't read my post at all. I just said gurugur had nothing to do with it. Did you read who the users are?

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Not only is spiral zetsu not listed as a user but in the databook they made no mentions of spiral zetsu being utilize. He was just an armour to protect his damaged arm.
If Obito used spiral zetsu to use the mokuton, spiral zetsu would be listed as a user like he is for shinsusenjuu in the databook.

Just because he's covered in spiral zetsu, doesn't mean spiral zetsu did anything. The fact that spiral zetsu aided in anything is just a speculation. It's like saying Obito can't use fire style without the rinnegan. Where did you get that spiral zetsu was a medium btw?

As for him being an adult. He did it one more time here.

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I see, so spiral zetsu can amplify Yamatos craptacular mokuton but not obitos right? It's totally impossible because it's obito right? The adult scan proves my point if anything, that was garbage compared to what he did against the mist

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I see, so spiral zetsu can amplify Yamatos craptacular mokuton but not obitos right? It's totally impossible because it's obito right? The adult scan proves my point if anything, that was garbage compared to what he did against the mist

Spiral zetsu never amplified Yamato because Yamato was never able to use shinsu senju in the first place. So I have no idea on what you're talking about.
Did you read Spiral zetsus databook and what his abilities are?

Why are you so adamant on a theory? Spiral zetsu does not have the power to enhance people's wood style jutsu, he's parasite just like White zetsu. He gets enhanced not the other way around.

As for the wood style showing it had to be smaller to cover up naruto's body. Any bigger and he slips right through it.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Spiral zetsu never amplified Yamato because Yamato was never able to use shinsu senju in the first place. So I have no idea on what you're talking about.
Did you read Spiral zetsus databook and what his abilities are?

Why are you so adamant on a theory? Spiral zetsu does not have the power to enhance people's wood style jutsu, he's parasite just like White zetsu. He gets enhanced not the other way around.

As for the wood style showing it had to be smaller to cover up naruto's body. Any bigger and he slips right through it.

It's not a theory, it's obvious if you stop fapping behind your DB for a second. Obito was only ever seen using those wood style jutsu while guruguru was attached to him. He never used them again. not even once. There were numerous situations in the war that if he possessed such powers, he would've used them. The DB entry doesn't refute this. Obito was indeed the user of the jutsu like the data book says, but he was only able to use it while his Mokuton was enhanced by guruguru. It's possible guruguru is not listed as a user because he is unable to use it himself, and is only able to give someone the ability to use it. The databooks have so many inaccuracies anyway, it is not gospel.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

.... couldn't even wield Rinnegan with senju DNA.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

It's not a theory, it's obvious if you stop fapping behind your DB for a second. Obito was only ever seen using those wood style jutsu while guruguru was attached to him.

This is very stupid. How do I wank a databook or the manga? Use your brain. If the manga said Obito did it and the databook said Obito did it, where is guruguru all in this? Huh? We seen Obito used wood style without gugugru being present and yet you still argue? Does that make any sense?

He never used them again. not even once. There were numerous situations in the war that if he possessed such powers, he would've used them. The DB entry doesn't refute this. Obito was indeed the user of the jutsu like the data book says, but he was only able to use it while his Mokuton was enhanced by guruguru. It's possible guruguru is not listed as a user because he is unable to use it himself, and is only able to give someone the ability to use it. The databooks have so many inaccuracies anyway, it is not gospel.

Don't try to refute a fact with a nonsense theory. If you want to argue something to be a fact you use the manga and the very least the DB. I already posted the manga page of him using wood style and now your arguing because the pretty pictures persuade you different. Just stop the crap already this doesn't make any sense.

 

[DiamondxDust]

This is very stupid. How do I wank a databook or the manga? Use your brain. If the manga said Obito did it and the databook said Obito did it, where is guruguru all in this? Huh? We seen Obito used wood style without gugugru being present and yet you still argue? Does that make any sense?

Don't try to refute a fact with a nonsense theory. If you want to argue something to be a fact you use the manga and the very least the DB. I already posted the manga page of him using wood style and now your arguing because the pretty pictures persuade you different. Just stop the crap already this doesn't make any sense.

Are you Braindead? I just explained to you Obito was the user of the jutsu itself, but was only able to perform it with guruguru enhancing his mokuton and making it stronger. The DB lists Obito as a user, but nowhere does it say he didn't have help from guruguru. In fact, The images on the page are only of him while he is wearing guruguru which only supports the idea that he needs guruguru to perform cutting sprigs. He used wood style later on during the war, but only uses basic techniques. He never uses cutting sprigs ever again. What i'm saying is supported by both the manga and the DB, it's not a theory.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Are you Braindead? I just explained to you Obito was the user of the jutsu itself, but was only able to perform it with guruguru enhancing his mokuton and making it stronger.

Are you retarded? I spent half a page saying that he didn't. There is no enhancement and the manga including the databook never stated that there was no enhancement. Just stop already.

The DB lists Obito as a user, but nowhere does it say he didn't have help from guruguru. In fact, The images on the page are only of him while he is wearing guruguru which only supports the idea that he needs guruguru to perform cutting sprigs. He used wood style later on during the war, but only uses basic techniques. He never uses cutting sprigs ever again. What i'm saying is supported by both the manga and the DB, it's not a theory.

The databook said nothing about any enhancements by guru and neither did the manga. The manga said that he had nothing to do with it in the first palce! Why is it so hard for you to read the context in the manga instead of conjuring up dumb theories just because all you do is look at the pictures? Why?
Guruguru does not even have the power to enhance people in the first place. Stop being an idiot or I'm just gonna ignore you.
His powers are all shrubbery parastic techniques. HE DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO ENHANCE.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Are you retarded? I spent half a page saying that he didn't. There is no enhancement and the manga including the databook never stated that there was no enhancement. Just stop already.

The databook said nothing about any enhancements by guru and neither did the manga. The manga said that he had nothing to do with it in the first palce! Why is it so hard for you to read the context in the manga instead of conjuring up dumb theories just because all you do is look at the pictures? Why?
Guruguru does not even have the power to enhance people in the first place. Stop being an idiot or I'm just gonna ignore you.
His powers are all shrubbery parastic techniques. HE DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO ENHANCE.

Believe what you wanna believe buddy, you're a lost cause