are you christian or atheist or agnostic or... other?

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I'm agnostic. When I was 14 I started questioning religion. By 17 I decided I was agnostic. I came from a Christian(Catholic) background. I tried coming out to my family about this but they flipped out and assumed I was a satanist or atheist even though I explained to them what agnostic was. Now I just let them believe whatever until I move away. They think I believe in the universe as god or scared to say I believe in god. I even met some atheist who assumed I was a "Scared atheist" because I corrected them in conversations when they would consider me atheist.
eesh, i'm sorry, that sounds shitty

sounds like denial and a misinterpretation of what agnostic means. do you still have to correct them in conversations or are they sorta getting it?
 

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eesh, i'm sorry, that sounds shitty

sounds like denial and a misinterpretation of what agnostic means. do you still have to correct them in conversations or are they sorta getting it?
No, I stopped correcting them. When I saw correcting them they would start insulting me and what not.
 

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no, now the "sins" as in stuff that is bad.

since* ? is that how you spell it? :)

focus on the intire sentence and disregard my lack of correct grammer :)
yeah i meant to ask what bad things are you talking about? Are you judging me as bad, or sinful without knowing me?
 

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yeah i meant to ask what bad things are you talking about? Are you judging me as bad, or sinful without knowing me?
no, im questining if you truly was religious from birth.

or first around the age of 3 year old and onward when you started being able to understand words, their meaning etc.
 

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Oh, yeah i did mention in my first post that am muslim by birth :hint:
ye you did, and im putting a " ? " at that claim because i don't think it's true.

sure i believe you wore raised muslim by your muslims parents, but i don't believe that you wore an muslim since you wore born, since how can you be if you can't understand what a god is at that point?
 
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ye you did, and im putting a " ? " at that claim because i don't think it's true.

sure i believe you wore raised muslim by your muslims parents, but i don't believe that you wore an muslim since you wore born, since how can you be if you can't understand what a god is at that point?
Well what he meant is that he was muslim as long as he can remember, i think you understood that but trying to prolong this convo for some reason
 
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ye you did, and im putting a " ? " at that claim because i don't think it's true.

sure i believe you wore raised muslim by your muslims parents, but i don't believe that you wore an muslim since you wore born, since how can you be if you can't understand what a god is at that point?
Stop pretending, you know exactly what he meant
 

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Could you guys define my position for me? Never thought to give it a label.

A person who never has given it much consideration but being fairly sure God doesn't exist? As in, the idea doesn't mean much to me and organised religion is a no no....but i'm open to him being real.
 

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Could you guys define my position for me? Never thought to give it a label.

A person who never has given it much consideration but being fairly sure God doesn't exist? As in, the idea doesn't mean much to me and organised religion is a no no....but i'm open to him being real.
Agnostic Atheist. You don't really care or know but you're leaning towards not believing. That's what I would say, at least.
 

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ye you did, and im putting a " ? " at that claim because i don't think it's true.

sure i believe you wore raised muslim by your muslims parents, but i don't believe that you wore an muslim since you wore born, since how can you be if you can't understand what a god is at that point?
Oh going into semantics eh. Well Muslims believe that every child born, is born Muslim and we also give azaan in the baby's ear when it's born. It is believed that parents or society makes kids non Muslim, otherwise everyone is born naturally a Muslim. And if you wanna know what i understand and think of Islam, then that's a separate thing which i'd not like to discuss.
 

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Well what he meant is that he was muslim as long as he can remember, i think you understood that but trying to prolong this convo for some reason
im not trying to prolong the conversating i'm questining his claim than one can be muslim sins birth, since at birth one cannot form taughts yet, so how can one believe in a god? when it's physically impossible to do so.

Stop pretending, you know exactly what he meant
but i do know exactly what it is that he believes, he believes he was a muslim sins his very first breath.

Oh going into semantics eh. Well Muslims believe that every child born, is born Muslim and we also give azaan in the baby's ear when it's born. It is believed that parents or society makes kids non Muslim, otherwise everyone is born naturally a Muslim. And if you wanna know what i understand and think of Islam, then that's a separate thing which i'd not like to discuss.
I'm well aware that a large amount (many, many millions) of muslims claim that everyone is born muslim at birth.

However, how can one be a muslim if you have never heard of the faith or ever meet a muslim?

I didn't know about Islam until i was 14 years old, and I know for a fact that i was never a muslim, because i never believe allah ever existed nor do i view the Prophet muhammet as a prophet. (i also know that some muslims will still claim i was born a muslim, or maybe still am one, even though i know that i don't have a belief in Allah or any other god, i know i am an Atheist)
 

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I'm well aware that a large amount (many, many millions) of muslims claim that everyone is born muslim at birth.

However, how can one be a muslim if you have never heard of the faith or ever meet a muslim?

I didn't know about Islam until i was 14 years old, and I know for a fact that i was never a muslim, because i never believe allah ever existed nor do i view the Prophet muhammet as a prophet. (i also know that some muslims will still claim i was born a muslim, or maybe still am one, even though i know that i don't have a belief in Allah or any other god, i know i am an Atheist)
No you didn't get me. For a second imagine that you are Muslim. Now every kid is created by Allah. Thus every kid is born a Muslim. It doesn't matter if he knows about Islam till a certain age, because even muslim kids don't know much about Islam till lets say 6, 7 or 10 years of age. So according to Islam you were born a muslim but you chose a different path later on when you came to know of different things, it could be because of family, society or your own thinking.

According to Islam you were born with the nature of Islam. You chose something else later on. So according to Islam you are astray.
 

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No you didn't get me. For a second imagine that you are Muslim. Now every kid is created by Allah. Thus every kid is born a Muslim. It doesn't matter if he knows about Islam till a certain age, because even muslim kids don't know much about Islam till lets say 6, 7 or 10 years of age. So according to Islam you were born a muslim but you chose a different path later on when you came to know of different things, it could be because of family, society or your own thinking.

According to Islam you were born with the nature of Islam. You chose something else later on. So according to Islam you are astray.
I didn't chose to believe or not believe, I was raised by my parents without religion, i didn't even know people believes gods existed before i was 10 (maybe 11) years old.

And when i finally was though about what Gods is, I started reading up on the most common belief's in the world today and even though i tried to believe they existed, i just didn't, in the same way i don't believe faries, unicorns or vampies exist i don't believe in Thor, Ra, Zeus or Allah (or any other god for that matter)

The fact that some muslims claim i was born a muslim is irrelevant to me and i view the claim as false, just as i would if someone claimed 2+ 2 = 7 or claimed that unicorns actually exist.
 
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