Sarada's Blindness problem solved (Theory)

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There's nothing that hints rest being capable of restoring a blind eye, hence the importance of EMS. Once you lose the ability it's gone. What's even worse about this argument is that Karin healed him after he fought the Kage, then partially healed him again after the Danzo fight.

Madara's circumstances are unexplained. When Sasuke lost the ability to use his Sharingan Susanoo disappeared as well, so you obviously do need the Sharingan active to use Susanoo.

I highly doubt that Sasuke and Madara were the only two in a span of several several decades to only get eyes from immediate family members.

He wasn't completely blind but fatigued from no rest of the eye, Karins healing doesn't mean his eyes for the most part, it's wounds an body fatigue that was being healed given his eyes a boost but not healing. It was from Sasuke not resting his eyes.. If he'd had rest, he still would've been able to access it but not for long..
Itachi was using his for along time an could only hold it for bursts.. Which is why he handle his opponents quickly..

It took zetsu along time to figure out the EMS because the blood is diluted.. Sasuke & Madara are the only1's who awakend it otherwise zetsu wouldn't have got to them for the power he needed..

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Sasuke's last attack on Itachi with Kirin, Itachi didn't have MS activated for Susano'o which would prove Tobirama right of not really needing the eyes but the brain..

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Itachi was blind here technically but Susano'o is activated.. It's the brain not the eye itself..
 

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He wasn't completely blind but fatigued from no rest of the eye, Karins healing doesn't mean his eyes for the most part, it's wounds an body fatigue that was being healed given his eyes a boost but not healing. It was from Sasuke not resting his eyes.. If he'd had rest, he still would've been able to access it but not for long..
Itachi was using his for along time an could only hold it for bursts.. Which is why he handle his opponents quickly..

It took zetsu along time to figure out the EMS because the blood is diluted.. Sasuke & Madara are the only1's who awakend it otherwise zetsu wouldn't have got to them for the power he needed..

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Sasuke's last attack on Itachi with Kirin, Itachi didn't have MS activated for Susano'o which would prove Tobirama right of not really needing the eyes but the brain..

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Itachi was blind here technically but Susano'o is activated.. It's the brain not the eye itself..

If Karin's healing doesn't help his eyes (which I know it doesn't) then you can't say that rest would either. So like I said, nothing in this Manga supports rest letting Sasuke use Susanoo again later.What is shown and stated is that once your eyes start to deteriorate the only way to reverse the process is to gain EMS.

What does zetsu have to do with anything we're talking about?

Yes, he did. His pattern just wasn't visible due to the deterioration of his eyes. Susanoo was active. His MS was active. Sasuke's MS deactivated. His Susanoo followed suit. Thus you need Susanoo. Tobirama never once said the chakra in the brain is what forms Susanoo. What was stated is that chakra sprouts in the brain, touches the optic nerve and transforms their eyes to the Sharingan. That doesn't translate to "Uchiha can use their Visual Prowess without their Dojutsu active". Madara is a special unexplained case. Sasuke's Sharingan deactivated and he lost Susanoo. These are facts.
 

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If Karin's healing doesn't help his eyes (which I know it doesn't) then you can't say that rest would either. So like I said, nothing in this Manga supports rest letting Sasuke use Susanoo again later.What is shown and stated is that once your eyes start to deteriorate the only way to reverse the process is to gain EMS.

What does zetsu have to do with anything we're talking about?

Yes, he did. His pattern just wasn't visible due to the deterioration of his eyes. Susanoo was active. His MS was active. Sasuke's MS deactivated. His Susanoo followed suit. Thus you need Susanoo. Tobirama never once said the chakra in the brain is what forms Susanoo. What was stated is that chakra sprouts in the brain, touches the optic nerve and transforms their eyes to the Sharingan. That doesn't translate to "Uchiha can use their Visual Prowess without their Dojutsu active". Madara is a special unexplained case. Sasuke's Sharingan deactivated and he lost Susanoo. These are facts.



Sasuke had MS for maybe a few days before he went almost blind using it.. Meanwhile Itachi had it for years an didn't go blind.. That's from rest time an not spamming it so much..

They need rest time with the eyes or they will do what Sasuke went through in days.. Healing the body,wounds,eyes or not you need rest..
 

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Sasuke had MS for maybe a few days before he went almost blind using it.. Meanwhile Itachi had it for years an didn't go blind.. That's from rest time an not spamming it so much..

They need rest time with the eyes or they will do what Sasuke went through in days.. Healing the body,wounds,eyes or not you need rest..

Yes, Itachi used his sparingly, meaning it lasted longer. That doesn't mean that rest restores the eyes. So the bold is still based on nothing. We already know that only one thing restores the eyes, and it's a transplant.

Example: Sasuke and Itachi both have a 100 gallon tank of water. Sasuke uses all of his over the course of 7 days while Itachi still has a gallon left after several years. Sasuke and Itachi could stop drinking or using their water but that doesn't mean that the water will come back.
 

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Yes, Itachi used his sparingly, meaning it lasted longer. That doesn't mean that rest restores the eyes. So the bold is still based on nothing. We already know that only one thing restores the eyes, and it's a transplant.

Example: Sasuke and Itachi both have a 100 gallon tank of water. Sasuke uses all of his over the course of 7 days while Itachi still has a gallon left after several years. Sasuke and Itachi could stop drinking or using their water but that doesn't mean that the water will come back.

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Every1 needs rest!.. You cant go all out all day everyday without it.. Sasuke is no different..
 

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I think i'd prefer it if she went blind. But still somehow retained her power, Col. Mustang style.

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She'd be one hell of an interesting Hokage.
 

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I think i'd prefer it if she went blind. But still somehow retained her power, Col. Mustang style.

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She'd be one hell of an interesting Hokage.

Salute Col Mustang, dudes beast!..
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I think she'd be a damn good Kage with a Uzumaki protecting her as he said he would..
 

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Salute Col Mustang, dudes beast!..
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I think she'd be a damn good Kage with a Uzumaki protecting her as he said he would..

Exactly my image of the two of them. I'm fine with Sasuke II being her Hawkeye. Hell, Boruto could even be stronger but Sarada's influence as Hokage is something that fits the characters coming out of Boruto: The Movie.

Shame we'll never get to see her character treated with respect.
 

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Exactly my image of the two of them. I'm fine with Sasuke II being her Hawkeye. Hell, Boruto could even be stronger but Sarada's influence as Hokage is something that fits the characters coming out of Boruto: The Movie.

Shame we'll never get to see her character treated with respect.

Yea!..

I trying to see how she can fit because it's not lookin good..

"Byakugou Metotic Regen (Katsuya)"
She's not a medic, how is this spposed to happen!?..

Already semi-blind with a eye that leads to blindness..

I'm hopin she can get some love cause she's not where i thoight she'd be with her squad doin what they do..
 

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I wonder what her MS ability would be?

:wut:

Maybe an S/T ability.
 

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I don't know why people are assuming Sarada will learn byakugō from what we've seen it's strictly S-rank medical ninjutsu and I highly doubt as an Uchiha she would pursue medical ninjutsu, but we'll see her mother is the greatest living one.
 

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Just because Tobirama never said it?

Then how did Madara used Susano'o without eyes?

No, because Sasuke couldn't use Susanoo without his eyes nor has any other Uchiha been able to use Dojutsu without the actual eye activated. Stop mentioning Madara. Madara is the exception, not the rule.

So, will you or anyone else actually address the argument? Or will you do what posters here are famous for and ignore everything you disagree with?

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Every1 needs rest!.. You cant go all out all day everyday without it.. Sasuke is no different..

That has nothing to do with anything I said.
 

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No, because Sasuke couldn't use Susanoo without his eyes nor has any other Uchiha been able to use Dojutsu without the actual eye activated. Stop mentioning Madara. Madara is the exception, not the rule.

So, will you or anyone else actually address the argument? Or will you do what posters here are famous for and ignore everything you disagree with?



That has nothing to do with anything I said.


Yes it does because your debating somethin that's known.. The eyes need rest!..

There's not a doujutsu user in the series alive that could spam their doujutsu without needing to rest it abit before being able to use if again for a extended period..
debating against that would be debating against the series, an if the series cant convince you then there's no way i can..
 

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Yes it does because your debating somethin that's known.. The eyes need rest!.. There's not a doujutsu user in the series alive that could spam their doujutsu without needing to rest it abit before being able to use if again for a extended period..
debating against that would be debating against the series, an if the series cant convince you then there's no way i can..

But it doesn't prove that rest restores the eyes. It shows that using them without resting causes them to deteriorate faster. So again, what you are saying is irrelevant to everything we're talking about.

Don't talk about "you're debating against the series" when you clearly have no idea what the series says. If you actually cared about what the Manga said you wouldn't be arguing this nonsense about how resting would heal Sasuke's eyes when Itachi said the only way to regain the light of your eyes is to obtain another Mangekyo. So either show me where they mentioned resting causing a bad eye to get better or you can stop arguing.
 

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But it doesn't prove that rest restores the eyes. It shows that using them without resting causes them to deteriorate faster. So again, what you are saying is irrelevant to everything we're talking about.

Don't talk about "you're debating against the series" when you clearly have no idea what the series says. If you actually cared about what the Manga said you wouldn't be arguing this nonsense about how resting would heal Sasuke's eyes when Itachi said the only way to regain the light of your eyes is to obtain another Mangekyo. So either show me where they mentioned resting causing a bad eye to get better or you can stop arguing.

Nothing restores the original eyes light only transplants that have been pushed to MS & are of close blood.. But using it so much in a short periods will cause your light to wain MS included, they need to rest them to be able to use them for longer periods.. (I never said light is restored in their eye sight by healing, I said they need rest to prolong their original light)
 

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I wonder what her MS ability would be?

:wut:

Maybe an S/T ability.

I don't know why people are assuming Sarada will learn byakugō from what we've seen it's strictly S-rank medical ninjutsu and I highly doubt as an Uchiha she would pursue medical ninjutsu, but we'll see her mother is the greatest living one.

IDK what they can do for her as of now..

If she can get eternal light then she should be OP but then the fans won't be happy if she get's an ability that's better than pure blood Uchiha's..
 

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Nothing restores the original eyes light only transplants that have been pushed to MS & are of close blood.. But using it so much in a short periods will cause your light to wain MS included, they need to rest them to be able to use them for longer periods.. (I never said light is restored in their eye sight by healing, I said they need rest to prolong their original light)

Yes, we know all this. We already agree on this much. Yet you keep saying that Sasuke could've used Susanoo again if he rested his eyes, which is false as he lost Susanoo because his MS deteriorated.
 

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Yes, we know all this. We already agree on this much. Yet you keep saying that Sasuke could've used Susanoo again if he rested his eyes, which is false as he lost Susanoo because his MS deteriorated.

It boils down to not having chakra, which is why Sasuke lost Susano'o.. He didn't lose it because he lost his doujutsu. (The vision is just a plus for them cause it's more than just copy or pre-cog)

It's his brain that needs to activate the needed chakra along with the eyes.. Susano'o takes alot of chakra to manifest & Sasuke didn't have much which is why he lost Susano'o on top of losing his vision abit..

Itachi/Madara didn't have the MS activated but they still had the chakra to manifest Susano'o.. The eyes are a plus..

Check out chapter 619 an Tobirama breaks it down..
 
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