Can religious people win debates?

[LoZelda101]

pretty much what they said u can't argue with a religious person about how religion isn't rational because they it isn't rational as they believe in forces that aren't meant to be understood by man

But that's just it and what's weird about Q theory ( literally has theory in it's name yet mofo has the nerve to call me out) you get to a point that to be able to understand quantum realm means having to rely on unknown forces and that our perception of what is true or how it is becomes wrong because what we see and what it actually is isn't the same.

So whose to say science in regards to solving creation of the universe is any better when what were studying already by default defies logic. This is why most scientist don't even bother understanding how quantum works they only care about it to use accurate measurements. It's like knowing how to drive a car but not bother on how it was design to get there. There's a famous quote about Q from a famous scientist who said "if you think you know how quantum physics work then you don't know how quantum physics work". Lol it's that complex amd beyond human comprehension.

 

[Wizard_Impressive]

But that's just it and what's weird about Q theory ( literally has theory in it's name yet mofo has the nerve to call me out) you get to a point that to be able to understand quantum realm means having to rely on unknown forces and that our perception of what is true or how it is becomes wrong because what we see and what it actually is isn't the same.

So whose to say science in regards to solving creation of the universe is any better when what were studying already by default defies logic. This is why most scientist don't even bother understanding how quantum works they only care about it to use accurate measurements. It's like knowing how to drive a car but not bother on how it was design to get there. There's a famous quote about Q from a famous scientist who said "if you think you know how quantum physics work then you don't know how quantum physics work". Lol it's that complex amd beyond human comprehension.

sorry i think i accidentally quoted your post but thanks for that still

 

[YowYan]

those who are actually religious can answer that.

Yet all of their answers are void of any substance or logic.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Like is it easy for someone to be the rational one when arguing about if you should be religious or not?

Yes, a religious person can easily be rational, if they search and read and use scientific discoveries to base their facts.

What do you say when an atheist says that religion is a lie?

Well, how this universe ever existed?
Coincidence? Luck? If so, what are the chances of Sky-Scrappers to exist by themselves without humans?
Does the process of cell division happen by coincidence/luck too?

What do you say when an atheist says that religion is connected to homophobia and terrorism?

Why blame a religion because of the act of few? Also homosexuality from the stand point of natural reasons is unhealthy. This led it to be from moral reasons to be a taboo.

What do you say when an atheist says that you don't need religion to be a good person, and that it's not normal and disturbs you?

It'sso unfortunate that the people of today know only Prophet Muhammad and Islam and they bash them like some 12 years old. As if Prophet Muhammad is the only prophet. Well, no. There were hundreds before Muhammad. Take Ibraheem (Ibraham) for example. Before he became a prophet, there was so many killing and sacrificial rituals. Even terrorism existed before religion by centuries. No one check history.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

without religion u bums would be eating shit n sodomizing each other like donkey. religion open door for moral schema not barbarian

 

[YowYan]

without religion u bums would be eating shit n sodomizing each other like donkey. religion open door for moral schema not barbarian

(1) 666 posts oh no quickly post something before satan starts sodomizing You :0

 

[To Whatever]

Yet all of their answers are void of any substance or logic.

The irony.

 

[YowYan]

The irony.

If only you caught up on the joke before that edgy reply of yours

 

[To Whatever]

If only you caught up on the joke before that edgy reply of yours

Using "irony" is a edgy reply now?


Well, shit...

 

[YowYan]

Using "irony" is a edgy reply now?


Well, shit...

Wooops I thought that post of mine that You quoted was from another thread and used in response To the 666 jk

My bad buddy

Anywho, not Sure what's ironic though?

 

[YowYan]

Wooops I thought that post of mine that You quoted was from another thread and used in response To the 666 jk

My bad buddy

Anywho, not Sure what's ironic though?

Edit: Just realized you're not even the One I replied to. This is how warped I get when5 ppl are talking close To my ear and i'm trying To reply on nb

 

[JStar King]

Some of the acts that are considered good by religions are actually crimes

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Since when is doing good and helping others a crime? So if a person, who is religious does these things, it's a crime? But if someone who is an atheist does these things, it's good?

:wut:

 

[LoZelda101]

Yeah, except your exact words were


A general comment about science in general. Even if you were talking a specific field of science(quantum physics), theories isn't a light concept. It takes a mountain of evidence and is a hefty concept. Not too long ago, gravity was a theory as well.

No, you cherry picked my statement. I clearly said
from a bunch of men who can't agree with one another since none of them know the answer to how "it all began"

That is about the universe side of science not it in general which i made even more obvious the further in my comment when i literally talk about it.


Einstein's theory about gravity wave was just confirmed a year ago. Look how many years we've believed under a theory that couldve easily been wrong.

No, that's not necessarily true infact it's the opposite. Quantum is so beyond human comprehension that all they can do is create theories then most scientist filter what they believe is least likely but unfortunately never side with the same thing. Which questions how is that different than religion? Yes, in literal all forms of categories of science from dna to physics that facts is mandatory and theories are not taken as lightly but once the Q is added to physics stuff becomes fuzzy. You got Harvard grad teachers believing in 2 universes, black hole enters into a new universe, the big bang exploded out of a compressed particles no bigger than a pinky nail and all of these have little to no evidence. To make it more confusing these subtomic particles that we seen under scopes is perceived different from our eyes than it actually is which you can see is a problem since almost everything in the universe is filled with particles. So it's like trying to crack the biggest puzzle in the universe while blindfolded.

My point it, only the Q is what will decide who is right, TBB or god about how the universe was created. But unfortunately the more indepth they get into the Q the more more people see the two blurr together as if they have more in common than differences because the Q heavily conflicts with our perception and understanding of logic.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

some of the acts that are considered good by religions are actually crimes, and religious people do good things in order to be rewarded with paradise, and to stay away from hell, this is not morals.

Then what am I suppose to do? Follow my survival instinct?

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Then what am I suppose to do? Follow my survival instinct?

Yeah, animals doesn't have any problem with that. And please don't said that humans are not animals.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But that's just it and what's weird about Q theory ( literally has theory in it's name yet mofo has the nerve to call me out) you get to a point that to be able to understand quantum realm means having to rely on unknown forces and that our perception of what is true or how it is becomes wrong because what we see and what it actually is isn't the same.

So whose to say science in regards to solving creation of the universe is any better when what were studying already by default defies logic. This is why most scientist don't even bother understanding how quantum works they only care about it to use accurate measurements. It's like knowing how to drive a car but not bother on how it was design to get there. There's a famous quote about Q from a famous scientist who said "if you think you know how quantum physics work then you don't know how quantum physics work". Lol it's that complex amd beyond human comprehension.

I called you out not because you called it a theory, but because you said it was "just" a theory. As though that's some small thing. There's no such thing as "just" a theory because they're no small thing, they require extensive research and mountains of evidence. The only thing above a theory is a law, which is even harder to achieve.

 

[Uchihaa Sasuke]

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Since when is doing good and helping others a crime? So if a person, who is religious does these things, it's a crime? But if someone who is an atheist does these things, it's good?

:wut:

Religions don't only teach you to help others, sometimes they teach you to kill, harm, hate or despise those who follow other religions and minorities, and many other wrong things. Also holly books like the Quran and the old testament are filled with violent stories like how the Israelites killed 200000 from the Caananites and raped their women and enslaved their children by an order from god and many other stories where god was responsible for the destruction of civilizations and death of innocents.

And yes, Atheists are morally better because they do good things not for heaven or god's teachings but for humanity.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Yeah, animals doesn't have any problem with that. And please don't said that humans are not animals.

Then I'll make sure to kill you first.

Religions don't only teach you to help others, sometimes they teach you to kill, harm, hate or despise those who follow other religions and minorities, and many other wrong things. Also holly books like the Quran and the old testament are filled with violent stories like how the Israelites killed 200000 from the Caananites and raped their women and enslaved their children by an order from god and many other stories where god was responsible for the destruction of civilizations and death of innocents.

And yes, Atheists are morally better because they do good things not for heaven or god's teachings but for humanity.

How can you live with these thoughts? It's so sad. I feel like to cry for you.

 

[Belserion]

without religion u bums would be eating shit n sodomizing each other like donkey. religion open door for moral schema not barbarian

The IS says hi

 

[Punk Hazard]

Religions don't only teach you to help others, sometimes they teach you to kill, harm, hate or despise those who follow other religions and minorities, and many other wrong things. Also holly books like the Quran and the old testament are filled with violent stories like how the Israelites killed 200000 from the Caananites and raped their women and enslaved their children by an order from god and many other stories where god was responsible for the destruction of civilizations and death of innocents.

And yes, Atheists are morally better because they do good things not for heaven or god's teachings but for humanity.

There are a couple of things here that are compelling arguments. Particularly the last part. Is someone truly moral if they good things only for the expectation of divine reward and fear of divine punishment?