Boruto vs. Sarada (stats.)

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These databooks hold very little weight when you see what stats they gave Naruto/Sasuke

Uzumaki Naruto
Attributes
Strength: 110
Intelligence: 90
Perception: 120
Dexterity: 160
Chakra: ?
Negotiation: 170

Uchiha Sasuke
Attributes
Strength: 130
Intelligence: 100
Perception: 165
Dexterity: 165
Chakra: 200
Negotiation: 142

According to these databooks "The average attribute score of an ordinary person is about 60, and the average for a genin is about 90"
and sasuke scored a mere 100 on intelligence, let that sink in for a moment.

How? What have he shown, Sasuke isn't stupid but he isn't one of brains in the manga either, you are confusing his sharingan ability for intellegence, same with Neji.
TBH itachi was slightly above average in intellegence but probably wasn't smarter than Sarada , being wise doesn't equate to intellegence either, especially given that his eyes grant clarity.

in the chunnin exams which Sasuke claimed Sakura genjutsu know how and analytical ability was the best, despite having the two tomoe sharingan,this was the reason. Sakura intellegence grants her a scene of precog, as seen in the sasori fight, shikamaru did the same in his fight with Tayuya, however his eyes aren't as sharp as Sakura.

But other than that the adult stats a a bit wacky, Sakura shouldn't be weaker than Sarada in strength,

And mastering jutsu and being creative with them isn't really genius, in term of intellegence, because all ninja do it train, they are bond to stumble upon different techniques. If You play with yourself enough, you've stumble upon different variants too
 

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Not quite. If it had nothing to do with speed, then Sasuke would still have gotten pasted by Naruto
even when he unlocked the 3rd Tomoe in VoTE 1.

Sure, Sarada's speed shouldn't increase, obviously. However, the Sharingan gives her a superior perception, allowing her to move say, 3 more seconds faster than she normally would've with normal eyes. I think that's the best way we can explain it. And that's the importance of perception in this case. Seeing as Boruto has some menacing speed advantage.

This was also addressed in my post to salamander and my previous posts to you. Now I know why you were so thirsty to push this "higher overall stats=stronger shinobi" point. Without the stats you can't form a coherent argument to save your life.


Besides Sasuke and Naruto, there are other examples, but intelligence still plays a role in a fight.

There's also Sasuke vs. Deidara that
was mostly dominated by tactics and quick-thinking.

Like I said. If you can't apply this to the fight we are talking about do me a favor and stop mentioning it. Sasuke vs Naruto is not an example. Sasuke vs. Deidara is not an example. Tactics and quick thinking doesn't need special intelligence. Sasuke's intelligence stat is around average, yet he was able to formulate a plan to take out Deidara because...

Oh wait, you guessed it. His Ninjutsu and physical ability. Nothing more needs to be said on this point if you aren't going to bring any new information.

But you imply.

Nope.

>Admits Boruto can't blitz
>Supposes he can ''shit on her''

Typical charlatan.

1. Irrelevant.
2. No one ever said the bold.
3. Even if someone did, you don't need to be able to blitz someone to destroy them in combat.

Regardless, Sarada is still not far off in speed, and this is best bet Boruto has to win. In his Ninjutsu he only has VR and what else? Streaming lightning chakra through weapons which Sarada can already do? He isn't that versatile, either, and he sure can't spam clones with his good-for-nothing chakra reserves. He'll pretty much have to think it over before he recklessly spams shadow clones and uses a chakra-taxing technique such as VR, which he can't spam either. Sarada on the other hand has more chakra sufficiency, and can spam CES for as much as possible while retaining her chakra reserves.

To be expected. However, that's useless when they can be handled by a herculean punch.

Sarada has never been shown streaming chakra. If lying is your only skill in a discussion you aren't going to get far in this argument buddy. :lol The rest isn't an argument or a rebuttal to anything I said in the past 3-4 posts.

>Says Boruto is not that versatile.
>Is arguing for someone who only has Shuriken jutsu and close combat.

Boruto is superior in close combat. Boruto is superior in mid range and Boruto is superior in long range. Boruto has superior feats against the same foes and against superior foes. Meanwhile what does Sarada have? People making excuses for her on an internet forum.



No evidence or whatsoever. Just ranting.
>How does it not? She's not at full power and yet you use that as if it's legit to say that she's inferior to Boruto in her performance? She didn't use CES either according to your admission, and somehow we should take it as a measurement of her overall performance. Which, by the way, can't really be gauged at this point in the Manga.

Manga is BS though, but I'll endure.

I've explained how it does not. If you want to address it be my guest, because I've yet to see a direct response to every part of my previous posts. You cherry pick which parts you want to respond to and ignore the parts that crush your horrible argument.

There isn't conceding either. There is only in fact agreeing that Sarada isn't as weak as you make her out to be, based on how she's been deprived of screen-time so the Boruto series gets acquainted with the protoganist. Any person with a logic sees that Boruto has more development than Sarada, in both anime or Manga. He's even had his movie. That's how his Vanishing Rasengan even came about,, or he wouldn't have it in the first place and definitely wouldn't be regarded so highly, based off a feat that we've not seen since we saw it once. Tell me how someone like that won't have a more dilated arsenal.

This isn't relevant to this discussion nor is it a rebuttal to what I've said. I don't care who has more development. I care about who is superior at this point in time. Don't start making irrelevant excuses when you can't prove your point.

-Says Sarada is superior.
-People show that based on feats Boruto is superior.
-Then cries about how Sarada doesn't have enough development.

:lol Yet that didn't stop you from asserting her superiority in the first place.

She wasn't using CES or Sharingan. Just pure Taijutsu. In comparison to Boruto who used shadow clones.

This was addressed. Boruto fought 4 opponents at the same time. She fought 1 at a time and had trouble with the second one.

Even part 1 Naruto who was once hopelessly weak could be strong with the help of Shadow clones. We saw that in the beginning of the series when he took out a Chuunin when he was merely a genin.

Irrelevant.

Okay, time to pull out your proof for that claim. Show me that part in the DB that makes it clear that Boruto is superior. I'll wait.
>Sarada used plain Taijutsu
>Boruto used Taijutsu +
Shadow Clones

Guess Boruto is more impressive than Sarada who didn't rely on a special technique.

This was all addressed.

-Hand to hand is one of Boruto's main skills. Not Sarada's.
-Boruto has better feats in overall CQC than Sarada does against the same people. That's a fact.

Let me fix this little bit for you since you don't have to mental capacity to argue with honesty.

>Sarada used plain Taijutsu and almost died against one person.
>Boruto used Shadow Clones + Taijutsu and stomped 4 people at once in a matter of seconds. Now you could bring the feats from Sarada that put her above Boruto or you can concede, or you can stop posting.

:lol I suggest you stick to trolling or whatever it is you do, because your arguments are so terrible that they are almost painful to read.
 
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Gotta love that there are actually people deluded enough to take these stats seriously in the first place. The same stats that give Sakura a 100 in strength while Sarada has 160, Boruto has 120, Sasuke has 130 and Naruto has 110. Even if you argue that Team 7's scores are on a different scale, Base Naruto having physical power on par with Sakura's is blatantly shown to be false.

But hey, anything to be right I suppose.
 

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Gotta love that there are actually people deluded enough to take these stats seriously in the first place. The same stats that give Sakura a 100 in strength while Sarada has 160, Boruto has 120, Sasuke has 130 and Naruto has 110. Even if you argue that Team 7's scores are on a different scale, Base Naruto having physical power on par with Sakura's is blatantly shown to be false.

But hey, anything to be right I suppose.
Sarada fan's are hilarious anyway. I'm reading this argument wondering what kind of battle plan Sarada could cook up with one technique in her disposal. Do these people expect Boruto just to walk into her fist? Game over? :lol

Sarada's versatility sucks balls, no offense. Her best offensive, and go to jutsu are the same. Plus, even when Sarada eventually gets her new techniques, Boruto's forte is ninjutsu. They won't compare in strength. The author clarified that for sure. Granted if Sarada gets more chakra control based techniques, then I would see something rising. But pure ninjutsu? Boruto would stomp no matter what.

Even then, I doubt the author would ever give Sarada a long range jutsu that could match Boruto's Vanishing Rasengan. That's an A-Rank jutsu or higher depending on what the Manga said earlier about Rasengan variants.

Anyway I'm sure they'll be an arc or a part of the story where Sarada might have the advantage over Boruto. Maybe her MS Sharingan might be hack or something. However, the gap is only going to get wider. Sarada already has her Sharingan activated, and Boruto hasn't even unlocked his Jougan yet.

When that becomes accessible, you can kiss Sarada and Boruto threads goodbye. That's not even counting when the seal starts becoming a legit thing.

Just rambling lol
 

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Sarada fan's are hilarious anyway. I'm reading this argument wondering what kind of battle plan Sarada could cook up with one technique in her disposal. Do these people expect Boruto just to walk into her fist? Game over? :lol

Sarada's versatility sucks balls, no offense. Her best offensive, and go to jutsu are the same. Plus, even when Sarada eventually gets her new techniques, Boruto's forte is ninjutsu. They won't compare in strength. The author clarified that for sure. Granted if Sarada gets more chakra control based techniques, then I would see something rising. But pure ninjutsu? Boruto would stomp no matter what.

Even then, I doubt the author would ever give Sarada a long range jutsu that could match Boruto's Vanishing Rasengan. That's an A-Rank jutsu or higher depending on what the Manga said earlier about Rasengan variants.

Anyway I'm sure they'll be an arc or a part of the story where Sarada might have the advantage over Boruto. Maybe her MS Sharingan might be hack or something. However, the gap is only going to get wider. Sarada already has her Sharingan activated, and Boruto hasn't even unlocked his Jougan yet.

When that becomes accessible, you can kiss Sarada and Boruto threads goodbye. That's not even counting when the seal starts becoming a legit thing.

Just rambling lol

Amen. She has one Ninjutsu that hasn't been shown on panel and is good at Shurikenjutsu and has super strength and 1-T Sharingan. Base Naruto using Shadow Clones lets him fight somewhat close to 3-Tomoe Sasuke's level in close combat despite Sasuke having a large speed advantage over him. So it's not hard to imagine what'll happen if Boruto, who is already faster and better in hand to hand than Sarada, uses 4 shadow clones against her in close combat. Throw in Rasengan to counter her CES strikes and it's a wrap.

I personally don't ever see a moment where Sarada is stronger than Boruto unless Boruto gets momentarily limited, at least not in the distant future. If Sarada is going to ever be stronger than Boruto it's going to be early on, because the further the Manga progresses, the sooner we get to Boruto learning how to use Jougan and his seal, and from there on out it's a wrap. I can see them briefly being on the same level.

These two aren't and never will be rivals nor have they been portrayed in that light so idk why these threads keep popping up as if we were arguing Naruto vs. Sasuke. :lol Those two were meant to be neck in neck. Boruto is just meant to be superior to Sarada.

I mean, we already know that Boruto is going to leave his teammates in the dust when it comes to power. He's the only one fighting Kawaki in the destroyed Konoha.
 

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Amen. She has one Ninjutsu that hasn't been shown on panel and is good at Shurikenjutsu and has super strength and 1-T Sharingan. Base Naruto using Shadow Clones lets him fight somewhat close to 3-Tomoe Sasuke's level in close combat despite Sasuke having a large speed advantage over him. So it's not hard to imagine what'll happen if Boruto, who is already faster and better in hand to hand than Sarada, uses 4 shadow clones against her in close combat. Throw in Rasengan to counter her CES strikes and it's a wrap.
Exactly. Even if we take into account on what that ninjutsu is based on, Boruto's forte is ninjutsu so it doesn't matter. Lightning enhanced weapons and/or ninjutsu attacks will be his thing. I've been saying this for the past few days, to my attempt, that Salamander tried to arguing that Sasuke deactivated his Sharingan , instead of actually debating on the fact that shadow clones were shown capable of matching sharingan precog. Boruto outmatching Sarada mobility wise isn't helping the CQC argument, nor is the latest chapters showing that Boruto can handle bandits easier than her. If Sarada tried to fight Boruto in CQC, he would just sidestep her attacks, if clones are in play, she'll end up getting overwhelmed. If Saada tries to take out all of his clones at once like what she did against the Shin's, she'll be met with a Vanishing Rasengan before she hits the ground.

Despite wasting 20+ pages between this and the other thread, I have yet to see an actual argument against these facts.

I personally don't ever see a moment where Sarada is stronger than Boruto unless Boruto gets momentarily limited, at least not in the distant future. If Sarada is going to ever be stronger than Boruto it's going to be early on, because the further the Manga progresses, the sooner we get to Boruto learning how to use Jougan and his seal, and from there on out it's a wrap. I can see them briefly being on the same level.
I don't want to count her out yet just in case she gets some type of Tsukuyomi MS ability where not everyone can break/counter it. She does have Genjutsu as a forte, and Boruto hasn't been shown to activate his Dojutsu yet. So I could see how that could be a problem until post-activation. I could see an argument arising if Sarada starts using Susano'o, and Boruto doesn't really have a counter for it yet. Though I'm sure he'll have strong ass ninjutsu /w the Dojutsu, seal, and his regular ninjutsu. I'm just not assuming his hack yet in comparison to hers. Though considering all the outlets so far have shown that Boruto>Sarada, it's clear that it might not change. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they end up neck and neck for a while if she gets more abilities in check. Until the eventual power creep when Boruto's other abilities start unlocking.

These two aren't and never will be rivals nor have they been portrayed in that light so idk why these threads keep popping up as if we were arguing Naruto vs. Sasuke. :lol Those two were meant to be neck in neck. Boruto is just meant to be superior to Sarada.
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I mean, we already know that Boruto is going to leave his teammates in the dust when it comes to power. He's the only one fighting Kawaki in the destroyed Konoha.
Agreed. I don't see Boruto getting downplayed on their level unless he loses the seal in the future.

I think that if Boruto eventually loses the seal, like Sasuke, it's possible that the Jougan by itself might be on the same level as a fully mastered MS Sharingan, and what-ever SM form Mitsuki has. Though I expect a slight edge for Boruto's case since he's the MC, even in that regard.

He's going to be the strongest of generation anyway. Expecting anything less of that is retarded. Sarada will be strong no doubt, but it's becoming stupid comparing them both as Boruto keeps getting stronger, Sarada keeps staying in her lane :lol
 
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Base Naruto using Shadow Clones lets him fight somewhat close to 3-Tomoe Sasuke's level in close combat despite .
Not even close. Sasuke washes Naruto, and you're comparing someone who can SPAM clones to someone who can't barely use over four?

This is why I say you're a fan-boy.

How you can even use Naruto and Sasuke to prove that Boruto should be superior to Sarada when they're clearly a different case is beyond me. Sarada hasn't even unlocked 3T yet, only at 1T and already shown to be on par on Boruto. Can't wait till she gets her 3T and makes a spectacle of Boruto who can't even use over 3 shadow clones. At least Sasuke was facing at least over 10. :lol
 

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Exactly. Even if we take into account on what that ninjutsu is based on, Boruto's forte is ninjutsu so it doesn't matter. Lightning enhanced weapons and/or ninjutsu attacks will be his thing. I've been saying this for the past few days, to my attempt, that Salamander tried to arguing that Sasuke deactivated his Sharingan , instead of actually debating on the fact that shadow clones were shown capable of matching sharingan precog. Boruto outmatching Sarada mobility wise isn't helping the CQC argument, nor is the latest chapters showing that Boruto can handle bandits easier than her. If Sarada tried to fight Boruto in CQC, he would just sidestep her attacks, if clones are in play, she'll end up getting overwhelmed. If Saada tries to take out all of his clones at once like what she did against the Shin's, she'll be met with a Vanishing Rasengan before she hits the ground.

Despite wasting 20+ pages between this and the other thread, I have yet to see an actual argument against these facts.


I don't want to count her out yet just in case she gets some type of Tsukuyomi MS ability where not everyone can break/counter it. She does have Genjutsu as a forte, and Boruto hasn't been shown to activate his Dojutsu yet. So I could see how that could be a problem until post-activation. I could see an argument arising if Sarada starts using Susano'o, and Boruto doesn't really have a counter for it yet. Though I'm sure he'll have strong ass ninjutsu /w the Dojutsu, seal, and his regular ninjutsu. I'm just not assuming his hack yet in comparison to hers. Though considering all the outlets so far have shown that Boruto>Sarada, it's clear that it might not change. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they end up neck and neck for a while if she gets more abilities in check. Until the eventual power creep when Boruto's other abilities start unlocking.


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Agreed. I don't see Boruto getting downplayed on their level unless he loses the seal in the future.

I think that if Boruto eventually loses the seal, like Sasuke, it's possible that the Jougan by itself might be on the same level as a fully mastered MS Sharingan, and what-ever SM form Mitsuki has. Though I expect a slight edge for Boruto's case since he's the MC, even in that regard.

He's going to be the strongest of generation anyway. Expecting anything less of that is retarded. Sarada will be strong no doubt, but it's becoming stupid comparing them both as Boruto keeps getting stronger, Sarada keeps staying in her lane :lol
That should be why he already has a Seal on top of being given a doujutsu, giving him two power sources. On the other hand, Sarada and Mistuki only have to rely on their inherent abilities. I can accept that he's going to become the strongest that way. But without the seal, his potential doesn't seem to much compared to Sarada/Mitsuki.
 

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Gotta love that there are actually people deluded enough to take these stats seriously in the first place. The same stats that give Sakura a 100 in strength while Sarada has 160, Boruto has 120, Sasuke has 130 and Naruto has 110. Even if you argue that Team 7's scores are on a different scale, Base Naruto having physical power on par with Sakura's is blatantly shown to be false.

But hey, anything to be right I suppose.
So why do they even waste their time to release them anyway if they're good as nothing?

The stats are there for a reason, and they're to gauge the character's current strength in comparison to others. It's obvious that the translation went wrong somewhere. Unless you believe Kishimoto or Ikemoto could ever publish them with this sort of logic. You're deluded if you believe that's the case.

And as I've said, it's easy to draw a conclusion based on how they're presented, if you have any comprehension skills.

If Naruto is portrayed as inferior in physical strength, which the whole base that watches Naruto blatantly knows, then one should start using their logic and consider that he's being scored on his base level. That's why I think Sasuke is also ranked higher (though I may be wrong).

But because KidGamer65 and Indra want to disregard stats. that are suppose to clarify the character's strengths, we should all heed and regard them as illogical. :lol

And assuming that this is translated from Japanese to English, it should at least spring to mind that they weren't translated correctly. A person with some logic would at least form such an assumption, for that's the only explanation.
 

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1- Iwabe Yuino

2- Uzumaki Boruto

3- Uchiha Sarada

The anime confirm Boruto is superior than Sarada.
 

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So Indra and KidGamer65 claim that Base Naruto matches 3T Sharingan Sasuke and yet here's the case:

>Back in part 1 when they were on the roof: Sasuke was toying with Naruto's shadow clones with merely 2T and destroyed them all before they clashed with their adulated techniques.

>Almost blind Sasuke matched Kakashi's Taijutsu who had 3T, same Kakashi that would destroy Naruto's clones.

>In VoTE 1: Sasuke with 3T Sharingan was destroying Naruto with Kurama's power harnessed. Also showed no mercy to his clones.

It was only in VoTE 2 where they seemed to be equal and then they both battered, and Naruto obviously has more chakra reserves and stamina than Naruto. So this already spells unfairness.

Yet, Indra seems to use that scan all the time to prove his point. A battered Sasuke with less stamina and battered Naruto with more stamina. Okay.
 

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1- Iwabe Yuino

2- Uzumaki Boruto

3- Uchiha Sarada

The anime confirm Boruto is superior than Sarada.

In that case, Iwabe is superior to Boruto.

I'll accept that. :lol

Though Sarada is underestimated by Indra. Soon he'll eat his words. He's even claimed that she'll never be superior to Boruto. If this to be the case, the anime will be garbage, and if not, I'll be elated to have the chance to rub it in his conceited face.
 

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So why do they even waste their time to release them anyway if they're good as nothing?

The stats are there for a reason, and they're to gauge the character's current strength in comparison to others. It's obvious that the translation went wrong somewhere. Unless you believe Kishimoto or Ikemoto could ever publish them with this sort of logic. You're deluded if you believe that's the case.

And as I've said, it's easy to draw a conclusion based on how they're presented, if you have any comprehension skills.

If Naruto is portrayed as inferior in physical strength, which the whole base that watches Naruto blatantly knows, then one should start using their logic and consider that he's being scored on his base level. That's why I think Sasuke is also ranked higher (though I may be wrong).

But because KidGamer65 and Indra want to disregard stats. that are suppose to clarify the character's strengths, we should all heed and regard them as illogical. :lol

And assuming that this is translated from Japanese to English, it should at least spring to mind that they weren't translated correctly. A person with some logic would at least form such an assumption, for that's the only explanation.

So Indra and KidGamer65 claim that Base Naruto matches 3T Sharingan Sasuke and yet here's the case:

>Back in part 1 when they were on the roof: Sasuke was toying with Naruto's shadow clones with merely 2T and destroyed them all before they clashed with their adulated techniques.

>Almost blind Sasuke matched Kakashi's Taijutsu who had 3T, same Kakashi that would destroy Naruto's clones.

>In VoTE 1: Sasuke with 3T Sharingan was destroying Naruto with Kurama's power harnessed. Also showed no mercy to his clones.

It was only in VoTE 2 where they seemed to be equal and then they both battered, and Naruto obviously has more chakra reserves and stamina than Naruto. So this already spells unfairness.

Yet, Indra seems to use that scan all the time to prove his point. A battered Sasuke with less stamina and battered Naruto with more stamina. Okay.

Not even close. Sasuke washes Naruto, and you're comparing someone who can SPAM clones to someone who can't barely use over four?

This is why I say you're a fan-boy.

How you can even use Naruto and Sasuke to prove that Boruto should be superior to Sarada when they're clearly a different case is beyond me. Sarada hasn't even unlocked 3T yet, only at 1T and already shown to be on par on Boruto. Can't wait till she gets her 3T and makes a spectacle of Boruto who can't even use over 3 shadow clones. At least Sasuke was facing at least over 10. :lol

Naruto only used 3-4 against Sasuke during their final battle. The same amount Boruto is capable of making. Nice try though kiddo. Naruto and Sasuke both ran out of chakra at the same time, meaning that the final clash took them down to the same level in stamina. The rest isn't a rebuttal. Like I said, stick to trolling. You don't have the mental capacity to form even the most basic of arguments.

Most of this is irrelevant. Part 1 is irrelevant. Your pathetic excuses are irrelevant. Make an argument or sit your ass down and let someone else more capable take it from here.
 

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In that case, Iwabe is superior to Boruto.

I'll accept that. :lol

Though Sarada is underestimated by Indra. Soon he'll eat his words. He's even claimed that she'll never be superior to Boruto. If this to be the case, the anime will be garbage, and if not, I'll be elated to have the chance to rub it in his conceited face.

What did you expect?

Sarada isn't Boruto rival.
Boruto is the main character who inherited one of the strongest genes of the new generation. It's a matter of time, Boruto is gonna learn to master his Jougan. :)
 

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If Naruto is portrayed as inferior in physical strength, which the whole base that watches Naruto blatantly knows, then one should start using their logic and consider that he's being scored on his base level. That's why I think Sasuke is also ranked higher (though I may be wrong).

Oh yeah, and since you clearly have a reading impairment I'll help you correct this paragraph. We all know Naruto is being scored by his Base level. In fact the post you quoted blatantly states "Base Naruto". Now, since you are too stupid to see the issue without me holding your hand let's go over it together.

-Base Naruto has 110.
-Sakura has 100.
-Sasuke has 130.

Base Sasuke and Base Naruto have already been shown to be inferior to Sakura in physical strength. Don't make that pathetic mistranslation excuse either as this compares Naruto to Sakura, ignoring the Genin. You can try and argue that it doesn't account for CES, but then you'd have to explain why Sarada has a 160 while no one else listed cracks 140.
 

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Go read what I said and then respond again. This sentence shows me that you didn't read what I stated, you didn't comprehend what I stated or you are purposely ignoring what I stated. Perception has not a damn thing to do with speed.

This is factually incorrect since perception of something faster than the other allows for reaction speed or response. it also helps in countering faster opponents. Shikdai did this with Boruto his perception is extremely high and so was able to deal and edxpand his shadow to the right range. Even Sasuke if he couldn't perceive Haku he couldn't react to him the slower the perception the slower your response.


She fought one at a time. Boruto fought 4 at the same time and beat them faster than she beat her opponents. Her 1-Tomoe Sharingan not being active doesn't make up for that difference.
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Apart from the fact her job wasn't to knock them out and Boruto's was while he used 4 shadow clones. She could've solo'd all 4 like she did the 20ish shin clones with 1 strike whereas Boruto it took making 4 clones. different situations different objectives.

Whether or not she needed help is irrelevant. She still was struggling against the same goons Boruto stomped in a few seconds. Sure, she wasn't using CES, but lets not act like Boruto was going all out against those goons either. As of now Boruto's CQC feats shit on hers. The DB makes it clear that he's superior in that field too. Unarmed hand to hand is one of his main skills. Not the case for Sarada.

Sure, she wasn't using Sharingan or enhanced strength. Boruto only used hand to hand and he fought 4x the amount of opponents as Sarada.
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The same goons in case you've forgotten those good were in custody this was another set of goons but that's irrelevant.
I'll repeat there was no struggling her job wasn't to knock them out.
You accept she wasn't using CES with which the same goons would've been solo'd like the 20 ish shins were. You ignore her mission wasn't to outright solo them and instead chase the goon off so they could follow him back to the base. It would be blatantly obvious they let him get away has she 1 shotted the goons with her CES and therefore affect the plan. Boruto's situation was different if Sarada was there all of them would've fallen of 1 blow.

We've seen the extent of Boruto's CQC at its peak for now against the goons we've also seen what Sarada did to the shin clones who have Sharingan by the way so we know the extent of her CQC capabilities. Hardly any competition for Sarada really.

The databook shows skills stats show your excellent abilities and how many stars you possess in your 3 best skills and then says and other.
Boruto's reads ninjutsu 4, Evasion 4, hand to hand combat 3.
Sarada's reads genjutsu 4 marksmanship 4, Ninjutsu knowledge 4.

This is no way confirms Boruto has better thaijutsu than her since it lists only 3 skills this could easily mean she has a 3 matching Boruto in hand to hand combat but because her other skills are 4s the databook didn't list them. What also dismisses the point is that she mainly uses hand to hand with CES so she has thai jutsu and doesn't really need to rely on other skills as of yet.

Ok. You can stop repeating this now. Sharingan at it's lowest level only lets you follow fast movements. There is no precognition thus none of the striked out parts are valid.

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Okay Ill accept there's no precognition not that there is a need for it. However clarity the ability to perceive faster moving objects faster by default allows you to up your reaction speed and response. I'll go back to the Haku(speed stat 4) fight as Sasuke(speed likely of 2-2.5) was keeping up with a faster Haku because he could perceive Haku's motions faster. This highlights the importance of perception and why better perception actually assists you. Haku because of this was forced to use demonic ice mirrors amplifying his speed further once Sasuke awoke his Sharingan he could perceive the faster motions with clarity and because of this react faster to them effectively eliminating the advantage a much faster Haku had. Sarada would effectively eliminate any supposed advantage Boruto would have and because of her ability to respond faster any strike with CES would effectively end Boruto.
I'm also going to pretend like you didn't just compare Sarada to Shojoji. If you guys want to prove Sarada is superior I suggest you start making sense. Shojoji is faster, stronger and more durable than Sarada and it's not even close. He's also faster, stronger and more durable than Boruto which is why he was able to destroy all his shadow clones. Knowledge is irrelevant. Knowledge doesn't affect his ability to take down Boruto's clones. Knowledge let him know that if he destroyed 3-4 clones Boruto would be finished as he can't make any more.

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The bold nobody is comparing Sarada to Shojoji but I have to point out Sarada's stronger(CES) and we don't know the extent of her durability either. Faster is also speculative but I'll let you have that. The purpose of knowledge and importance of it was that Shojoji formulated his strategy around it granted he still needed the ability to take them out. Sarada has knowledge, plus ninjutsu knowledge which means she likely knows of their strengths and weaknesses allowing her to formulate startegies to deal with them.

Now everything coupled together shows that Sarada is clearly better and superior for now, being faster isn't really an advantage, sharingan and perception allow for faster reactions, numbers and shadow clones mean nothing just ask the Shin's there were around 20 of them.
In essence if the overall picture is looked at for now Sarada is just better and easily defeats Boruto and there hasn't been a situation as of yet which requires her to use all her strength or go all out. I think people underestimate Sarada(who excels in all of Itachi's fields by the way according to the databook stats) because she's not the main lead.

Anyway if any discussion is to continue I'll accept it as long as its relevant and doesn't shift the goal posts completely, otherwise we'll end up in the same situation as Indra who deletes comments and denies he made them altogether and I don't have time for that. Also with constant shifting we may never reach a conclusion.
 

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This is factually incorrect since perception of something faster than the other allows for reaction speed or response. it also helps in countering faster opponents. Shikdai did this with Boruto his perception is extremely high and so was able to deal and edxpand his shadow to the right range. Even Sasuke if he couldn't perceive Haku he couldn't react to him the slower the perception the slower your response.




Apart from the fact her job wasn't to knock them out and Boruto's was while he used 4 shadow clones. She could've solo'd all 4 like she did the 20ish shin clones with 1 strike whereas Boruto it took making 4 clones. different situations different objectives.


The same goons in case you've forgotten those good were in custody this was another set of goons but that's irrelevant.
I'll repeat there was no struggling her job wasn't to knock them out.
You accept she wasn't using CES with which the same goons would've been solo'd like the 20 ish shins were. You ignore her mission wasn't to outright solo them and instead chase the goon off so they could follow him back to the base. It would be blatantly obvious they let him get away has she 1 shotted the goons with her CES and therefore affect the plan. Boruto's situation was different if Sarada was there all of them would've fallen of 1 blow.

We've seen the extent of Boruto's CQC at its peak for now against the goons we've also seen what Sarada did to the shin clones who have Sharingan by the way so we know the extent of her CQC capabilities. Hardly any competition for Sarada really.

The databook shows skills stats show your excellent abilities and how many stars you possess in your 3 best skills and then says and other.
Boruto's reads ninjutsu 4, Evasion 4, hand to hand combat 3.
Sarada's reads genjutsu 4 marksmanship 4, Ninjutsu knowledge 4.

This is no way confirms Boruto has better thaijutsu than her since it lists only 3 skills this could easily mean she has a 3 matching Boruto in hand to hand combat but because her other skills are 4s the databook didn't list them. What also dismisses the point is that she mainly uses hand to hand with CES so she has thai jutsu and doesn't really need to rely on other skills as of yet.


Okay Ill accept there's no precognition not that there is a need for it. However clarity the ability to perceive faster moving objects faster by default allows you to up your reaction speed and response. I'll go back to the Haku(speed stat 4) fight as Sasuke(speed likely of 2-2.5) was keeping up with a faster Haku because he could perceive Haku's motions faster. This highlights the importance of perception and why better perception actually assists you. Haku because of this was forced to use demonic ice mirrors amplifying his speed further once Sasuke awoke his Sharingan he could perceive the faster motions with clarity and because of this react faster to them effectively eliminating the advantage a much faster Haku had. Sarada would effectively eliminate any supposed advantage Boruto would have and because of her ability to respond faster any strike with CES would effectively end Boruto.


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The bold nobody is comparing Sarada to Shojoji but I have to point out Sarada's stronger(CES) and we don't know the extent of her durability either. Faster is also speculative but I'll let you have that. The purpose of knowledge and importance of it was that Shojoji formulated his strategy around it granted he still needed the ability to take them out. Sarada has knowledge, plus ninjutsu knowledge which means she likely knows of their strengths and weaknesses allowing her to formulate startegies to deal with them.

Now everything coupled together shows that Sarada is clearly better and superior for now, being faster isn't really an advantage, sharingan and perception allow for faster reactions, numbers and shadow clones mean nothing just ask the Shin's there were around 20 of them.
In essence if the overall picture is looked at for now Sarada is just better and easily defeats Boruto and there hasn't been a situation as of yet which requires her to use all her strength or go all out. I think people underestimate Sarada(who excels in all of Itachi's fields by the way according to the databook stats) because she's not the main lead.

Anyway if any discussion is to continue I'll accept it as long as its relevant and doesn't shift the goal posts completely, otherwise we'll end up in the same situation as Indra who deletes comments and denies he made them altogether and I don't have time for that. Also with constant shifting we may never reach a conclusion.



The conlusion is simple as stated above.

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1- Iwabe Yuino

2- Uzumaki Boruto

3- Uchiha Sarada

The anime confirm Boruto is superior than Sarada.
 

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The conlusion is simple as stated above.

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1- Iwabe Yuino

2- Uzumaki Boruto

3- Uchiha Sarada

The anime confirm Boruto is superior than Sarada.

The databook is from a period after the anime from the beginning of the manga. Did you just solo yourself?
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